Talk:william Fitz Duncan

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the William fitz Duncan article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Biography: Royalty and Nobility

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by WikiProject Royalty and Nobility.

Medieval Scotland High‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Medieval Scotland, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Medieval Scotland on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Medieval ScotlandWikipedia:WikiProject Medieval ScotlandTemplate:WikiProject Medieval ScotlandMedieval Scotland articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the importance scale.

Anglo-Saxon Kingdoms Low‑importance

	Anglo-Saxon England portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Anglo-Saxon Kingdoms, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Anglo-Saxon Kingdoms on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Anglo-Saxon KingdomsWikipedia:WikiProject Anglo-Saxon KingdomsTemplate:WikiProject Anglo-Saxon KingdomsAnglo-Saxon Kingdoms articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Middle Ages Low‑importance

	Middle Ages portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Middle Ages, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the Middle Ages on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Middle AgesWikipedia:WikiProject Middle AgesTemplate:WikiProject Middle AgesMiddle Ages articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Scottish Royalty Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Scottish Royalty (a child project of the Royalty and Nobility Work Group), an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to Scottish Royalty on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you should visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.Scottish RoyaltyWikipedia:WikiProject Scottish RoyaltyTemplate:WikiProject Scottish RoyaltyScottish royalty articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the importance scale.

Ancestry

Hello, I have an idea to add his ancestry by using these sources:

Ancestors of William FitzDuncan (1090/94–1147)^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5]^[6]

16. Crínán of Dunkeld^[9]^[10] (=24?)

8. Duncan I of Scotland^[4]^[9]^[10]

34. Malcolm II of Scotland^[9]^[10] (=50?)

17. Bethóc of Scotland^[9]^[10] (=25?)

4. Malcolm III of Scotland^[4]^[6]^[7]^[10]^[11]

18. Siward of Northumbria?^[9]

9. Suthen^[9] (b. as Sybilla?)

19. Ælfflæd or Godgifu?

2. Duncan II of Scotland^[3]^[4]^[6]^[7]^[9]

20. Árne Arnmódsson^[14]^[15]

10. Finn Árnasson^[4]^[6]^[14]

21. Thora Thorsteinsdóttir

5. Ingibiorg Finnsdottir^[1]^[4]^[6]

22. Halfdan Sigurdsson^[15]

11. Thorberg (Bergljot) Halfdansdottir^[15]

1. William FitzDuncan^[3]^[4]^[6]^[7]^[8]^[9]

24. Crínán the thane^[13] (poss. identical to Crínán of Dunkeld?)^[9]^[10] (=16?)

12. Maldred^[12]^[13] (brother of 8?)

50. Malcolm II of Scotland?^[9]^[10] (=34?)

25. Bethóc of Scotland?^[9]^[10] (=17?)

6. Gospatric of Northumbria^[12]^[13]

26. Uhtred the Bold^[12]^[13]

13. Ealdgyth^[12]^[13]

54. Æthelred II the Unready^[4]^[12]^[13]

27. Ælfgifu^[12]^[13]

3. Ethelreda of Northumbria

Sources:

Alan Orr Anderson Scottish annals from English chroniclers, A.D. 500 to 1286. 1908
Bernard Burke, Ashworth P. Burke. A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage. 1934
Orkneyinga saga: the history of the Earls of Orkney. tr. Hermann Pálsson and Paul Edwards. Penguin, London, 1978. ISBN 0140443835
Oram, Richard; David: The King Who Made Scotland, (Gloucestershire, 2004).
Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall. Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700: Lineages from Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Other Historical Individuals 2008. ISBN 0806317523, ISBN 9780806317526

Additional source:

Foundation of medieval genealogy: Scotland, kings https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm; Norway, nobility https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORWEGIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#IngborgFinnsdM1ThorfinIIM2MalcolmIIIScot

References

^ ^a ^b Orkneyinga saga, pp 61, 71–72
^ Scottish annals, pp 80–81, 178–179, 182, 186, 227
^ ^a ^b ^c A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, pp 47–48
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g ^h Oram, David, p. 10 Cite error: The named reference "<ref2" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
^ F. Weis, W. Sheppard, W. Beall, K. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 2, 161–162
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f Foundation of medieval genealogy: Scotland, kings and Norway, nobility
^ ^a ^b ^c Orkneyinga saga, p. 72
^ Scottish annals, pp 178–179, 182, 186, 227
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g ^h ⁱ ^j ^k Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 161–162
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g ^h A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, p. 47
^ Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 2, 162
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 37
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g Scottish annals, pp 80–81
^ ^a ^b Orkneyinga saga, p. 61
^ ^a ^b ^c Foundation of medieval genealogy: Norway, nobility

Dmitry Azikov ( talk) 06:19, 27 July 2024 (UTC) reply

[<saga-1] Orkneyinga saga, pp 61, 71–72

[2] Scottish annals, pp 80–81, 178–179, 182, 186, 227

[<ref-3] A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, pp 47–48

[<ref2-4] ^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g ^h Oram, David, p. 10 Cite error: The named reference "<ref2" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).

[5] F. Weis, W. Sheppard, W. Beall, K. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 2, 161–162

[<ref6-6] ^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f Foundation of medieval genealogy: Scotland, kings and Norway, nobility

[<saga1-7] Orkneyinga saga, p. 72

[8] Scottish annals, pp 178–179, 182, 186, 227

[<ref5-9] ^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g ^h ⁱ ^j ^k Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 161–162

[<ref3-10] ^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g ^h A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, p. 47

[<ref4-11] Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 2, 162

[<8-12] ^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 37

[<annals-13] ^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g Scottish annals, pp 80–81

[<saga2-14] Orkneyinga saga, p. 61

[<ref7-15] Foundation of medieval genealogy: Norway, nobility

[1]

[2]

[3]

[4]

[5]

[6]

[9]

[10]

[7]

[11]

[14]

[15]

[8]

[13]

[12]