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How do we disambiguate William Longsword, Earl of Salisbury? Rick K 04:26, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Well, we could move this article to William Longsword of Normandy and then make this page a disambiguation page. Everyking 04:51, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
That sounds good. Rick K 00:31, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)
There's already an article for the Earl at William de Longespee, 3rd Earl of Salisbury (the French version of the name being how the Dictionary of National Biography lists him) but disambiguation here is still useful. Loren Rosen 14:44, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Regarding Richard's title: He was not, of course, the "duke" of Normandy, but the title I've seen associated with him in various sources is "patrician." And I wonder what the source is for calling him a "jarl"; is that just an assumption because of his Scandinavian roots? -- Michael K. Smith 00:08, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
He was born overseas in one of the many Viking territories before his father Rollo settled in northern France.
I don't think so. Hrolf was in Normandy in the late 880s, and even if he made trips backhome, he appears to have been in Normandy to stay shortly after 900. I can't cite a source off the top of my head for this, but I thought it was generally accepted that William wad born illegitimately c.910 in the vicinity of Rouen. And was his mother not known as Poppa "of Bayeux"? -- Michael K. Smith 00:59, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
What i think should be mentioned in this article is like his father, and his son after him, Danish was the spoken language of Normandy at the time. English n proud ( talk) 15:42, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
I corrected that Poppa was Rollo's wife more danico, not his Christian wife, because she is explicitly for whom William of Jumieges uses that term. I also shortened the statement to be that her parentage is uncertain, full stop, because Dudo is just about the most notoriously unreliable source ever. "Undoubtedly of Frankish nobility" is an unsubstantiated opinion that smacks of "hired by Richard I." AWIBS 30 Nov 2021
The article's references support "born overseas", possibly Great Britain, so it's strange that "Bayeux or Rouen" appears in the info box. Are there any references supporting that? The info box of https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillaume_Ier_de_Normandie has Lieu de naissance Grande-Bretagne. Mcljlm ( talk) 19:32, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
This link no longer appears to be good.
Fixed, moved back to article. Bearpatch ( talk) 23:30, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
A question came up regarding citing the article by Katherine Keats-Rohan [Poppa of Bayeux, TAG 72, No. 4, pp. 187 – 204] which I originally used it to present her solution, which showed both traditional views of Poppa’s parentage were actually compatible. Agricolae left a comment to the effect that it created too much detail and was a ‘pet theory’ and moved the citation. Regardless, this caused me to reread the article . In doing so I determined that, while her solution is quoted by other authors, it is in fact an original theory—a unique analysis of previously published sources—and as such would seem to violate the WP:NOR policy. In any case to avoid this potential problem I simplified the sentences and removed this particular citation. I also added better quality published sources. Bearpatch ( talk) 20:34, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
I suggest that the "I" is superfluous. This can only disambiguate him from William the Conqueror and William Adelin, which do not have a number. PatGallacher ( talk) 13:31, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. Good arguments that this bloke is the primary topic. Jenks24 ( talk) 14:27, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
– I suggest this person is the primary meaning of "William Longsword". The other possible meanings are not described by this plain name. The 'I' disambiguates him from William the Conqueror and William Adelin, a confused way of operating, since although rulers of Normandy they are not described by numbers. PatGallacher ( talk) 23:48, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
There are several variations for the name of William's sister, including Gerletta mentioned in Gerloc's cited source. Maybe anyway it and articles in other languages entitled Gerloc should accord with the French article Adèle de Normandie (morte en 962) https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad%C3%A8le_de_Normandie_(morte_en_962) with (Rollo's daughter) replacing the year since that's not certain. Mcljlm ( talk) 00:17, 25 January 2023 (UTC)