![]() | This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 12 January 2021 and 16 April 2021. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
Sidney Gordon. Peer reviewers:
Deemodango.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 12:51, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi Skookum1. You're adding lots of great content, but citing your sources is equal in importance to the content itself if the article is to survive and be trusted, so I hope you don't mind me asking you about a couple of things in your last edit...
I don't want to leave on a nitpicky tone, so thanks again for the contributions! -- Ds13 19:31, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
I removed this: "The West End, which gets its name from the West End School built in 1891...," and added "probably" and removed the date. I cited Morley, the only reference I found, because he notes that there was an East End School, Central School, and West End School. Daphne Marlatt and Carole Itter in Vancouver's East End claim that the East End (now Strathcona) was named after the school there, so I think it makes sense that the West End did as well (establishing the right and wrong side of the tracks, it seems..). Morley also says that there were 5 schools by 1890, including these 3 unimaginatively named ones, which is why I took out the date. I also know Strathcona was built in that year, so the original entry may have confused the two. But if anyone comes across a more confident source, feel free to update. I just wanted to get rid of the citation needed tag. Bobanny 07:02, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
I've read Morley and don't recall that; what's the exact wording from p.135? "West End" and "East End" are common anglicisms for the "end" of a village/town, which to me was always the origin; the school would have been named on that premise IMO. Skookum1 ( talk) 16:14, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Redlinked that because I think it may deserve a history article or at least a section; I'd added this to the intro by way ofexplaining Coal Harbour vs West End but then noticedd tehre's slight mention of it in the history section. Like Hogan's Alley and British Properties it has a certain place in the city's social history that can't be downpllyaed, so maybe nededs a short article herre's my copy, maybe it can just be knit inot the existing article thought:
A few years ago my memory would have been good enough to remember the name of the opera house; there's a picture of its facade in teh Vancov uer Public Library collection, though I don't know if it's in the online colletion. The only remaining one of these mansions left is the restord one where the Elbow Room had been, now part of some big complex. I think the old Nurses Residence should get a mention, like The Banff; this had been an area of better-built stone apartment and brick buildings and again a better address because of proximity to the stock exchange and business class social life; English Bay was by comparison living out in teh country. The article might also mention the old Denman ARena and the other one at Lost Lagoon, or was it where Harbour Park is now? One point about the Blue Blood Alley properties that's hard to cite and is maybe synthesis; but it's clear that the expansion of the business district went in this direction as those whose residential preoprties it had been were able to get business-property prices for it (they bought Shaughnessy next...and started teh Arbutus Club accordingly etc.). NB also though I don't recall Matthews of Davis or Morley commenting on it - "Blue Blood Alley" my guess is a sort of pun on Blood Alley in Gastown; which is should be understood is the back-door entrance to the Bodega Club, which beore the Vancouver Club was built was the gentleman's club and hangout; my gut feeling is it's intentional; life at the Bodega (that club) was a bit more red-blooded also, rather than dry and proper as visibl society life woould be and so very '"blue"/ today's Davie Mansion was an outpost of Blue Blood Alley, it used to have neighbours, but all the biggest ones were on WEest Pender (again, some nice shots in the VPL collection exist).
This has gotta be somehow citable, though tons of work; Isy's crossed my mind (it ended its life as teh metro, which some here may remember; ne3xt to the Christian Science church)....and but more of a book than a wiki article I suppose; Wiki-style it's just about where the3 bar licneses were; book-style it's who hung out where, most modern Vancouverites aren't aware taht one fo the city's top live rooms was the basement room in what's now Celebrities; it was called the Retinal Circus....). But I'm also thinking of the Blue, the Ritz, the Sylvia, th tour de bar and the changes wrought in the disco and neighbourhood pub and restaruants-with-booze eras as t hey each changed the place. Again too much OR but certain joints deserve mention; the Metro/Isy's is definitely one, long-gone though it is... Skookum1 ( talk) 04:42, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Most of the West End is comprised of 3 storey apartment buildings. Few homes are owned. The vast majority are rentals. The photos give the impression that the neighbourhood is mostly made up of houses. Plus, I don't see Davie being mentioned as the main drag.
Ahh, I see. I always thought most of the buildings in the WE were big corporation owned. As for Hookers on Davie, I meant the film, not the hookers. I never saw hookers when I was there. Good info. Thanks. I will try and think of a way to incorporate it into the article.-- Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 14:43, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
re this addition it's worth noting that it was a persecution of hookers and johns down in the Downtown EAstside that first got the girls (and the boys) to take up strolls on Davie, Burnaby, Jervis, Broughton etc; they came to the West End to make a point, and it proved profitable; same as when the cops started ticketing and putsching panhandlers down on East Hastings; begging which had been limited to that area suddenly was all over the West End, and Kits and beyond..... so while the addition is valuable there's more history as to why the area had become notorious for prostitution; city policy made it happen, and it took the courts to pressure them out; there's some books around on the history of prostitution in Vancouver, it's really a whole article of its own one day. Skookum1 ( talk) 04:17, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
It's rather suspicious that there's not a single mention of average personal/household income in West Van. Must be very high...