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RORY NEEDS TO BE FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.8.127.124 ( talk) 01:40, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 07:23, 21 January 2008 (UTC) Should we expand the article? Also "Street Customs" is no longer on the air —Preceding unsigned comment added by TruckyTrice ( talk • contribs) 10:17, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
It honestly reads like someone watched one episode of Street Customs, then penned-out the article. This is just sad, especially considering how big the company is. 71.35.22.153 ( talk) 03:46, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
In my opinion this article reads more like an advertisement brochure for the company. The article falls way short of the standard that I feel is required for a Wikipedia entry.
To IP user 71.92.65.250:
I am writing here about my revert: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=West_Coast_Customs&oldid=755719390
I view this IP edit to be suspect and vandalism. You re-inserted a section right in the middle of the history section, splitting it in a way that made no sense (sub-sections of History suddenly appeared under "Cast and Crew").
This article is not about the TV show. It is about the company. If you want to write about the TV show, please add your edits to Inside West Coast Customs. I have been working for hours fixing this article and getting it into a semi-presentable state. There was so much unsourced information in this article before. I am attempting to assume good faith, but since your IP originates in California, all of your edits since 2015 have been to the WCC article and the speed with which you were attracted to the article I feel you may be somewhat connected to WCC. I should remind you that editing articles about yourself or your company is a WP:COI (conflict of interest).
Now let's talk about the "Trademarks" section. This section is spammy and ad brochure like. Any other article about a company on this site, Microsoft, MakerBot, Apple does not list all of the trademarks they have. I see no reason to list trademarks which are just variations on the company name.
I still have much more clean up to do to get this article into a WP:NPOV (neutral point of view). There are controversies I have not yet covered which I do plan to, like the $150,000 fine WCC received from the US government for paying employees little and late. I would appreciate your help with the article (you did add something I was going to cover in more detail, the new Burbank facility), but only if you can keep a WP:NPOV and not be a WP:COI. -- Psiĥedelisto ( talk) 20:03, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
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I'll do this one.
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This article has failed its Good article nomination. This is how the article, as of December 22, 2016, compares against the six good article criteria:
Overall, nice effort so far on the research. Major concerns include WP:LEAD, WP:NPOV, fixes to increase standardization in use of WP:Citation templates, and fix the introduction to avoid a promotional tone. Best practice might be to bring in a couple of copy editors who are previously uninvolved on the article and previously not knowledgeable about the subject matter. Good luck !
When these issues are addressed, the article can be renominated. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to have it reassessed. Thank you for your work so far.— Sagecandor ( talk) 04:54, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
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Almost everything this company says about itself needs to be viewed as suspect. That's true of many other companies on Wikipedia, but in two major areas is it important as the company routinely attempts to rewrite history in them:
WCC claims many more franchises than are open. It claims franchises which have closed as well as franchises which no reliable sources point to ever having opened. At [1], the company writes "We currently have franchises in Russia, Mexico, Germany, Japan and Malaysia and are currently looking at expansion in other areas of the globe." Unfortunately, this statement is being mirrored uncritically by many journalists, especially because it was in the English Wikipedia for a while until I came around and did hours of research. Literally none of the franchises on that list are still active. The German and Mexican ones closed (Berlin became insolvent, Mexico changed its name/legal entity), the Russian one never existed, and the Japanese/Malaysian ones never existed beyond a "COMING SOON!" website.
I have noticed a trend in the sources. When Friedlinghaus was first giving interviews about WCC, he would cite 1997/1998 as the opening year. However, these days he cites 1993. In the earliest source, [2] published in 2004 around the time of the debut of Pimp My Ride, there are two contradictory statements:
"So, six years ago, (2004-6=1998) Friedlinghaus opened his car-customizing garage, hoping to find customers desiring souped-up cars in a city popularized by famous rappers and movies featuring tricked-out rides.
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"By the time he was 18, the car-customizing craze was beginning to take off and, with $5,000 he had saved from working at his father's liquor store in Laguna Niguel, he opened West Coast Customs in the same city in 1994."
A USA Today article from the same period also quotes 1998 as the year.
I really do believe that the company, if it existed at all, was small time until the year 1998, where business required a legal entity to be opened as it was in 2000. However, because the LA Times did also publish the year of 1994 in 2004, I've decided to give him the benefit of the doubt and put 1994 in the infobox. Further sources which quote 1993 are based on statements from Friedlinghaus or, inevitably, the previous version of this article which copied those statements uncritically, so they cannot be trusted as much as these older statements from the Pimp My Ride era. -- Psiĥedelisto ( talk) 03:12, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Your correct, "west coast Auto Trends" opened in 1998 or close to it. BanVal ( talk) 01:18, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
71.92.65.250, an IP I warned in an earlier section, has proceeded to blank all criticism twice [3] & [4]. 2605:e000:9086:7d00:1056:c17e:85b3:a8fb blanked the page, calling their vandalism an "Official WCC ReEdit" [5]. During this wave of vandalism from multiple IP, some critical content was removed which editors did not notice [6], I have restored that now. Now that I know that WCC employees are actively engaged in attempts to vandalize this Wikipedia article I'll keep a closer eye on it. I encourage other editors to do likewise. They seem very upset that I rewrote their WP:ADVERT into an actual encyclopedia entry. Psiĥedelisto ( talk) 15:07, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
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Section involving alleged criticism cites a fake website created under the name USA Today [5] "Allegations of quality" are worded in a slanderous way and Jake Glazier himself stated he would "happily participate again if given the chance". Allegations by Trisha Paytas are unsubstantiated and were a publicity scheme created my Ms Paytas, this is evident in the lack of legal action taken in part by Ms Paytas. She has also publicly stated that she is very happy with the build and continues to drive around with the West Coast Customs license plates on her vehicle to this day. Section citing Mauricio Hernández should be omitted because Mr Hernández no longer has a licensee agreement with West Coast Customs and is in violation of copy right and trademark law. Mr. Hernández has been making erroneous claims to strengthen the legal case against him. This is a pending litigation and should be removed until judgement by the Federal Court has been passed. Many of the edits by user Psiĥedelisto cite fake or fabricated websites and his information being posted seems to be slanderous based on personal motivations. 2605:E000:9086:7D00:DD6B:35EB:B532:1B72 ( talk) 06:25, 6 February 2017 (UTC)