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I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Washington Court House, Ohio's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:23, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Should the Media section be revised to remove the "Fayette Advocate" as a media source? A reference to the FA and an article promoting the FA was removed twice already on 16 July 2012 and 20 Aug 2012 noting a lack of significance. Other edits removing the promotion of the FA as a "hyper-local" news source have been made as well. The FA is a website and is run by a single person who is responsible for the original FA media reference. The "reporting" of the FA emphasizes editorials criticizing the city and its administrators. Any additional reporting of local news is extremely thin except for serious traffic accidents. The FA primarily enjoys engaging local residents via its popular facebook presence, however this falls extremely short of a definition of a News Agency as previously indicated. The person behind the FA, via a facebook post, even referred to his own addition of the FA within Wikipedia as historical evidence of the FA coming into existence in 2012 as a local news source. ThomasSchroeder ( talk) 21:25, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
There is some controversy here that Derek Myers is a notable Washington Court House resident and that the Fayette advocate is a Media outlet. Please read the above. I have not yet deleted Derek or the Fayette advocate but it is NOT vandalism to do so (which has been stated on the history page) - though perhaps I'll delete one or the other in the future. Any independent and unbiased Wikipedia member or admin (and some have already) can visit both the Fayette Advocate website and its facebook page and readily see that 99% of all interaction with the Fayette Advocate and the public takes place on a much liked and interesting facebook page that reads like a blog. I applaud Derek for having loyal readers that enjoy his facebook page, but that page and the thin spectrum of articles published by the Fayette Advocate leave it far short of a reputable news source. Additionally, unlike all other reputable new sources Derek, since he is the only real authority of the Fayette Advocate (anyone else being a young personal friend of Derek's that very rarely contributes), deletes many, if not all, dissenting views of his "editorials" and immediately blocks the citizen from responding further. This is done whether the public view questions his motives, his facts, his writing, or simple insults the Fayette Advocate by calling it a blog. This behavior alone is enough to deny him status as a news source. They Fayette Advocate, as previously determined by Wikipedia members multiple times, is NOT a notable media outlet and its single creator and primary contributor is not a notable person. I will be happy to suggest otherwise if the content, scope, and behavior of the Fayette Advocate changes significantly in the future as a media source rather than a facebook page. ThomasSchroeder ( talk) 15:22, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Here are numerous articles that prove Fayette Advocate is not ran by a single person: This link, a local school board recognizes TWO reporters from Fayette Advocate: http://www.wchcs.org/sites/default/files/May%20Minutes.pdf
In this link, the editor personally names his staff: http://fayetteadvocate.com/archives/13757/2013/11/20/their-attempts-to-discredit-us/
The phone number on their contact page, http://fayetteadvocate.com/contact/, if called, has different departments and a staff directory, dial by name.
These links are from other media outlets, mainly T.V. stations, that recognize Fayette Advoacte as a news source: http://abc6onyourside.com/shared/news/features/top-stories/stories/wsyx_injury-accident-front-fayette-county-school-22330.shtml?wap=0, http://www.myfox28columbus.com/shared/news/features/top-stories/stories/wsyx_odot-plow-overturns-spills-salt-roadway-22131.shtml, and http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2013/07/19/fayette-three-vehicle-crash.html, among many others found in Google.
Thomas Shroeder is anti-Fayette Advocate and anti-Derek Myers. I personally contacted the Fayette Advocate and asked if they knew of Thomas Shroeder, and they said they did. They forwarded me these links, where he clearly shows distaste:
http://fayetteadvocate.com/archives/7010/2013/01/23/city-asking-to-raise-taxes/comment-page-1/#comment-5692 http://fayetteadvocate.com/archives/10866/2013/10/10/city-of-wch-has-failed-citizens/comment-page-1/#comment-15123
As for if Fayette Advocate is legitimate or not, the link you provided on my talk page, Nyttend, is from a school board meeting and I believe if they call Fayette Advocate the media, then they should be included on the WCH wiki page. Fayette Advocate is also recognizes by other media outlets, including numerous TV stations (links above). I also contacted the local law enforcement agencies, the Washington Court House Police Dept. and Fayette County Sheriff's office. Both agencies said they send their media releases to Fayette Advocate and Fayette County Sheriff Vernon Stanforth said he recognizes Fayette Advocate has a legitimate media outlet.
Thomas' continuation of deletion is a personal vendetta and is vandalism. Until a page is created for Derek Myers, I will agree that he doesn't belong in notables. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leavewikifactsalone ( talk • contribs) 10:29, 24 December 2013 (UTC) — Leavewikifactsalone ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
As the slow motion edit war between 108.72.107.167 and 24.123.141.154 continues, I felt it was time to step in and try to end it... I have edited the media section, expanding on all three of the mentioned media sources. I do agree with the above (and also the comments at ANI by Black Kite) that the Fayette Advocate (FA) is not a reliable source. If it is to be mentioned, it should be clear that it is not equivalent to the legitimate media companies listed. A single sentence listing all three fails to do that. I have taken a stab at it, but have no objections if FA is excluded. I very much doubt whether a few attributions for quotes and photo credits counts be being "noted" by reputable media. That said, I can see it both ways - the site has generated some attention at the very least. I guess the question comes down to whether being a popular news blog is sufficient to warrant a listing under "media" at a city's page. (Note also that only source of supposed criticism of the FA by reputable media come from the FA itself - in reality the site has, in reality, simply been ignored by the Record Herald and other Central Ohio media. -- ThaddeusB ( talk) 00:11, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
I'm only curious, and not disagreeing: what makes a media company legitimate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.113.44.2 ( talk) 17:23, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
I don't think so. I lived just outside of Dayton, Ohio from 1970 to 1972 and it was called "Washington Court House" or "Washington C.H." back then, and for many years previously I'm sure, and was shown as such on maps at the time (sorry, I didn't save one...).
A city is separate from the surrounding township. So a city is not "in" a township. The township is the local government for all the land not in the city, but not the city itself. 217.180.201.232 ( talk) 01:13, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
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