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Hi Fellow Wikipedians, I made some minor copyedits to this article. Please see below for a comprehensive list of changes. Types of Violence: Physical – reworded a sentence to ensure that a number (82%) did not begin the sentence; moved word; rephrased sentence. Types of Violence: Psychological – rephrased sentence; changed letter capitalization; removed extra spaces; added comma. Types of Violence: Sexual – added comma; removed adverb; spelled out abbreviation. Contributing factors: Legal vs illegal sex work – removed space. Contributing factors: indoor vs outdoor working environment – added comma. Perpetrators: Serial killers – word change. Madtoups ( talk) 16:35, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
A "204 per 100,000" homicide rate is presented for female prostitutes credited to "Potterat et al., 2004" which is vague and I would like to improve this reference. Looking through the publications of JJ Potterat in 2004 (the one I assume this refers to since they wrote on the subject) the only publication I came across in that year related to the issue was Mortality in a long-term open cohort of prostitute women published April 15. The abstract cites a 'crude mortality rate' of 391 per 100K overall (I think this means deaths per year for all, including ex-prostitutes not active) and a CMR of 459 per 100K for "the period of presumed active prostitution only".
It does say "The CMR for death by homicide among active prostitutes was 229 per 100,000" but this is not 204. I'm confused at where the 204 came from. Anyone have an idea? Some data within the body of the study not present in the abstract?
If we can find out the context of the 204 homicides (I'm assuming annually?) I'd like to know if that is for 'active' or overall. I'm led to think that if 229 is murdered actives that 204 might be overall, since presumably one is at least a slightly lower risk of homicide while not on the streets. Ranze ( talk) 01:55, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
I believe half of all prostitutes die executed by security interests and another ten percent of even legally registered prostitutes may be murdered this may not be discovered because as even someone outside may plagiarize their past is protected by police for their providing case evidence another five percent may even be killed for acting as Crime Evidence, and another twenty percent die of dangerous contracted or resultant disease. and at least one percent may face execution for homicides related to the oldest profession or a psychological result of it. Currently there is a risk of a widespread security killer onslaught also termed "mass elimination" that is security backed or conducted mass effective homicide of prostitutes worldwide including in Portugal
It is 2014. Using prostitutes is slang and have a negative connotation. This is unacceptable. Sex worker is the correct term to be used in all context.
24.239.124.140 ( talk) 15:23, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
"Prostitute" is certainly not slang: it has a very long history as an established word in standard English. Whether it is desirable to replace it with the trendy "politically correct" expression "sex worker" is another matter. The editor who uses the pseudonym " JamesBWatson" ( talk) 10:53, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
There are many women formerly or currently in prostitution who do not use the term "sex worker" to describe themselves or who even outright reject it. "Sex worker" is a politically charged term. It implies that all women in prostitution experience the interactions with johns as sex and/or work. While some do, others experience it as violence and rape (see: Prostitution survivors movement). Using the term sex work erases all women who do not experience prostitution as a freely chosen occupation. One does not have to be trafficked or even pimped to experience prostitution as a form of violence. As pointed out earlier: Sex worker has been used by persons not actually prostituted - pimps for example (see: John Dockerty, Alejandra Gil, etc.). Prostitute is about as neutral as a term as we can get and if it's alright that is term that I will use. Additionally: Women and men who prefer the term sex worker are not thereby magically protected from violence. They experience much of the same violence as trafficking victims or persons prostituting due to poverty - and they are overwhelmingly targeted by the same group (pimps and johns). Elly Arrow" ( talk) 01:26, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi I'd like to expand upon this article. I have a list of sources on my user page for anyone interested. I'd like to include more information about the prevalence of violence against prostitutes, especially in comparison to other women. I'd also like to expand upon the ramifications of the legality of prostitution in regards to violence among other things. Abergin13 ( talk) 00:26, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
It is a good article, but there is too little based off of real life stories and situations, and what is present is situational and regional. It has to either expand to what the topic requires or narrow to a more specific topic. DCirillo14 ( talk) 00:57, 22 October 2015 (UTC)DCirillo14
Overall I think this is a great initial contribution. Like I said before I think that a bit more information about the specifics about what would be needed to explain how important and pressing of an issue this is. The information you added about the baby boomer generation aging is very important and I think some specifics about LGBT aging issues would further emphasize that. Other than that the small corrections about formatting and citations should be changed and then I think it’s o its way to being an A+ article!! Mduno ( talk) 01:41, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
This is an excellent start on your work to improve this article. Keep up the good work! DStrassmann ( talk) 20:42, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Great revisions to the article! You made a lot of positive improvements and expansions, and brought some good information to the article in terms of sourcing. The imagery has been a struggle for you and I know that, but perhaps play around with different placement or different images. I don’t think the current arrangement befits the article well. Overall, great job! DCirillo14 ( talk) 00:34, 5 November 2015 (UTC)DCirillo14
Hey Abergin13! You did a great job on all of your revisions and contributions to this page. I like how you added the section on "types of violence" because it is important that people know there is more than just physical violence against prostitutes. A few suggestions for improvements that I have: play around with the placement of your photos, maybe they would fit better in other sections. Also, make sure all of your idea are properly cited in the text so they don't sound biased. Overall, a great article! Courtwang ( talk) 03:29, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
The following was posted on User_talk:Mathglot#Edits_on_violence_against_prostitutes, regarding the inclusion of statistics relating to murders of sex workers since decriminalization. I had suggested that sexindustry-kills.de was a biased source.
I'm not entirely sure that I agree with your rejection of Sex Industry Kills as a source however. Yes, it was created by an abolitionist group, but it is the most complete list of individual murder cases of prostitutes which I could find anywhere online. Most of the content of the page is just listing cases, refering to news articles as sources and summarizing information from those sources. If you know of a politically neutral page which has a list as comprehensive I will link to that instead. If I cannot link to a listing page however, I would have to give dozens of sources if I e.g. want to share the publically known number of prostituted women murdered before and after legalization in Germany/Netherlands/elsewhere. If I can't link to a list page, then I'll have to link to hundreds of individual cases, which doesn't seem like a good idea.
For example: Currently the page states that there was one murder of a prostituted woman since legalization inside a legal brothel in Germany. That is incorrect - there were 13. The problem is that no news source I could find has reported this number, because the cases are usually reported individually and rarely does a journalist make reference to a similar case (or a case that took place in the same brothel). How do I provide sources in such a case? Thank you for any advise and input in advance.
I think it is fine to use a biased source if no better source exists, though the sparsity of reliable sources may indicate how difficult it is to collect data in this area. It might be useful to preface the data with "According to the abolitionist group 'Sex Industry Kills'...".
I think the study by Dr Sanders et al from the University of Leicester is the best critique of the unreliability of sex worker homicide statistics, including a critique of sexindustry-kills.de:
Without more robust and detailed studies on sex worker homicide across jurisdictions it is impossible to draw any clear causal links between legal situations and sex worker homicide. That does not mean that sex worker homicide should be ignored in campaigning efforts. Individual case studies of sex worker homicide can be used to highlight the dangers inherent in existing laws and policy approaches to sex work. Caution must be exercised, however, in using the existing statistics on sex worker homicide to make blanket assertions about the success or failure of different sex work laws. [1]
— Dr Sanders et al, The Use of Sex Worker Statistics in Campaigning
So I don't really see the usefulness of the existing data, but I wouldn't be opposed to the data being added to the page. AJ2265 ( talk) 15:19, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
References
Hello everyone--I have been looking into making some additions in regard to transgender prostitutes' experiences with violence in sex work. I have found a few academic sources that I will be using to help expand the article:
Sausa, Lydia A., JoAnne Keatley, and Don Operario. "Perceived Risks and Benefits of Sex Work among Transgender Women of Color in San Francisco." Archives of Sexual Behavior, vol. 36, no. 6, 2007, pp. 768-77. ProQuest, https://search-proquest-com.libproxy.albany.edu/docview/205940640?accountid=14166, doi: http://dx.doi.org.libproxy.albany.edu/10.1007/s10508-007-9210-3.
Logie, Carmen H., et al. “Factors Associated with Sex Work Involvement among Transgender Women in Jamaica: A Cross-Sectional Study.” Journal of the International AIDS Society, vol. 20, Jan. 2017, pp. 1–10. EBSCOhost, doi:10.7448/IAS.20.1.21422.
Moorman, Jessica D., and Kristen Harrison. “Gender, Race, and Risk: Intersectional Risk Management in the Sale of Sex Online.” Journal of Sex Research, vol. 53, no. 7, Sept. 2016, pp. 816–824. EBSCOhost, doi:10.1080/00224499.2015.1065950.
Nemoto, Tooru, et al. “Social Support, Exposure to Violence and Transphobia, and Correlates of Depression Among Male-to-Female Transgender Women With a History of Sex Work.” American Journal of Public Health, vol. 101, no. 10, Oct. 2011, pp. 1980–1988. EBSCOhost, doi:10.2105/AJPH.2010.197285.