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The reason I said it's a "something" bridge is because I was hoping, and am still hoping, that someone who knows what kind of bridge this is will come along and fix it. -
Denimadept (
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22:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)reply
There appear to be some pictures of the bridge at
Road Fan web site which look like a normal steel multi-stringer beam bridge, so I'll label it like that for now. If someone knows better, please correct me! -
Denimadept (
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22:52, 7 February 2008 (UTC)reply
Merge
Merge - This article existed first, and it's a named article (VVB) rather than titled with only a descriptive title (I-480 Bridge), so this seems like the one to keep. Not that I'm biased or anything, but I think this article has better organization. -
Denimadept (
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18:04, 24 June 2008 (UTC)reply
Merge- They are obviously referring to the same bridges, so no point in having two articles on the same thing. I agree with both previous posters since "I-480 bridge" is not a unique name (I-480 has several bridges), but "Valley View Bridge" is, plus locally that is what it is referred to. Move the sourced info from the I-480 Bridge article to this one and do a redirect. --
JonRidinger (
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17:45, 27 June 2008 (UTC)reply
Open 1975 or 1978
The newspaper article which I just added as a reference states 1975 as the date of opening of the bridges and adjacent sections of 480 but other newspaper articles which I've just researched (and will be adding to the article) state "1978" like the article did before I edited it. I'll be on the lookout for more definitive information.
Mapsax (
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23:39, 29 August 2009 (UTC) (BTW, I created the page linked in the
#Something section above)reply
That's why "complete" and "open" are different entries in the infobox. If you would provide the complete URL so we don't each have to do our own separate search, that'd be helpful. -
Denimadept (
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18:03, 30 August 2009 (UTC)reply
I would normally give a direct link (or actually just cited it myself), but it's a form-driven lookup that isn't amenable to direct linking to the result.
Brian Powell (
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21:38, 31 August 2009 (UTC)reply
I guess it's 1978. Even though the Cleveland Memory Project says 1973, its source is Bridges of Metropolitan Cleveland, which itself says that the bridges were
under construction in 1976. I don't have easy access to Plain Dealers before the 1980s, so I'll look for other sources. (The Encyclopedia of Cleveland History lists
no date.) I'm not sure what "check with Ohio" means; the ODOT website is available to all, and contacting someone directly isn't a good source re
Wikipedia:Verifiability#Burden of evidence: "The source should be cited clearly and precisely to enable readers to find the text that supports the article content in question" – a general cite of "Ohio Department of Transportation District 12", i.e. "I e-mailed them and this is what the e-mail says", won't work because no verifiable text is available to the reader.
Mapsax (
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19:44, 31 August 2009 (UTC)reply
Look what I found: Page 18 of
this document says 1975 (IDs 1812521 and 1812548; ignore the July 1 date since ALL are dated July 1.) However, I think that I'll leave the article as-is right now since 1978 seems to be the most cited date, and the ECH says the bridges were under construction in 1976 (it'd be different if it said that I-480 was under construction then but that the bridges were completed at the time).
Mapsax (
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19:49, 15 September 2009 (UTC)reply