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the article is still very bare; those who have spare time please expand upon the lead section, setting, gameplay, games, characters, and reception sections.
Osh33m (
talk)
00:59, 24 January 2016 (UTC)reply
The table, the character/setting sections, and the current state of this article.
I agree with
The1337gamer about
this. A table like this breaks the flow of the article - I think prose + a timeline template would be way more accessible. I also heavily disagree with
this revert - if those sections were expanded, then that might be fine, but at the moment they are just two one-sentence sections about the series' plot. Sections that are that short only make the reading experience choppy. As general editing advice, I recommend combining mini-sections about related subjects and splitting enormous ones (at least into subsections). This strategy also applies to paragraphs within a section.
On a different note, I worry that this article is (mostly) built up without the use of sources. Way too often, I see people writing in articles about pop culture and just pulling from what they themselves know about the subject, or from some Mobygames/Wikipedia/Wikia page (while not even linking to that source), and as a result getting an article that is underdeveloped in a lot of areas, fancrufty, and unsourced. Writing with sources makes for a better product and is much easier to do. Sorry if this sounds aggressive and hostile, because I really don't want to come off like that, but I do think that there's a lot of work to be done on this article if we want to get it up to snuff, and I'd hate to see editors putting effort into the wrong thing and having their work replaced entirely when they could have just as easily or easier created the same thing themselves in the first place.--
IDVtalk01:22, 25 January 2016 (UTC)reply
Most everything in the thread is verifiable in my opinion, it just needs expansion. You moved the characters section to be under setting, and I think that's fine, as long as they are still separate. I disagree however that the table breaks the flow of the article, considering it is opened up right at the games section, before the section is divided into the subsection for each game.
Osh33m (
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20:06, 25 January 2016 (UTC)reply
In addition to text ("prose"), I vote in favor of using a (sortable) table to present series-relevant information instead of a simple reductionist timelines (e.g.,
Banjo-Kazooie_(series)#Games). It is tedious to search through the text and individual articles and misses the possibility of direct comparison. Of course, only important criteria of the titles should be included in the columns. I don't see how a table in the beginning of a section "breaks" an article. Did you ever read a scientific paper? They have both tables and figures between paragraphs without "breaking" anything... to the contrary! What consensus? Has there been a vote where an important number of contributors participated?
Hippo99 (
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15:58, 4 February 2016 (UTC)reply
This character list doesn't have sources to show its independent notability from the series. It's a hatrack for all kinds of minor characters and
video game trivia. The major characters can be adequately merged to the corresponding character section of the parent article. czar02:40, 14 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Merge candidates are almost exclusively pared down before merger. In this case, only the main characters would need to be imported, and only a few sourced sentences from each. czar03:04, 9 August 2016 (UTC)reply
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– In my opinion, simply "Valkyria" is an unfitting name for the series. The vast majority of the series is entitled Valkyria Chronicles (games 1-4), and the critically maligned Valkyria Revolution is just a spin-off. It would be as if a spinoff of F-Zero was released entitled F-Two, and suddenly we moved the series article to simply "F". It would only make sense to excise part of the name if a significant subset of the games involved alternative names. ZXCVBNM (
TALK)09:41, 23 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Support Full name is likely the common name for the series. Every entry except the single spin-off uses the full name, including the anime and manga. --
ferret (
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14:35, 23 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Support unless there is strong evidence that the series is better know as simply Valkyria we should use them full title especially since only a single spinoff game didn’t use it.--
67.68.21.146 (
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23:22, 23 December 2017 (UTC)reply
@
Zxcvbnm: when I first developed the page, the announcement of Valkyria Azure Revolution is the only reason why I didn't create the page as Valkyria Chronicles. So, if the consensus is to move it to that, then go for it.
Osh33m (
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18:19, 2 January 2018 (UTC)reply
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