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Do you mean the touristic flights? Currently, 250.000 USD per person are planned. Formerly, only 200.000 were planned, so the cost can change according to inflation. If the program will become a success of course, as currently it looks not so good for Virgin Galactic. But how expensive the vehicle itself is I don't know. --
212.186.0.108 (
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14:57, 20 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Total cost is not disclosed. The entire program from start could maybe be mid-hundreds of millions $US. An individual spaceship could be low hundreds; depends on if you include development costs / R&D. — Preceding
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Ronrosano (
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18:22, 4 November 2015 (UTC)reply
To build one spaceship, it's cost of paying several hundred engineers & others working full time for 2 or 3 years + materials; a common occurrence in the aerospace industry. My understanding is that the lost spaceship was insured, and that the VG received proceeds soon after the loss. --
ronrosano (
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01:01, 5 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Your layout is not an answer. Remember i asked for 1. a number, 2. not for developing costs(while a number would be welcome). 3. Claiming that something was insured does not answer how much it is to rebuild it, and of course the point of interest is how much is it worth? --
Itu (
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01:41, 5 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Glider?
I recently noticed that both
VSS Enterprise and the
Space Shuttle orbiter are members of the category,
Category:Glider_aircraft. Both vehicles, of course, have rocket engines on board that are used for part of their flight, and both require other components (carrier aircraft or fuel tank and solid rocket boosters) to actually begin flight. Yet they both end up flying as gliders as they land. Hence, I understood, their inclusion in this category. I looked back a few years (to 2015) and both were still in that category then, so it isn't a recent change; I am not sure who put them in this category, but that does not really matter. For consistency, I thought that
VSS Unity should be in the same category by whatever inclusion criteria allow both
VSS Enterprise and the
Space Shuttle orbiter to be in the category. I understand from recent edits that
Ahunt and
MilborneOne may have a different perspective on this. Would anyone like to discuss whether the present subject,
VSS Unity, should be in the
Category:Glider_aircraft category? Thank you,
Fanyavizuri (
talk)
19:08, 29 October 2018 (UTC)reply
Just about all heavier-than-air aircraft can glide, except perhaps fixed-pitch helicopters. Almost all fixed wing aircraft land from a glide, too, but that doesn't make a B-747 with its throttles back a glider. The category is for aircraft intended primarily as gliders, not for any aircraft that can glide. -
Ahunt (
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19:23, 29 October 2018 (UTC)reply
You both make great points.
MilborneOne points out that something that Unity and Enterprise had/have in common is an FAA registration as a glider. Here is Enterprise's old entry
[3]; here is Unity's current one
[4]. That distinguishes them from
Ahunt's example, unless there is some B-747 with an FAA registration that is particularly unusual in this way. Here is what I take to be a typical registration of a 747 - not a glider
[5]. Unity, as well as (previously) the Shuttle Orbiter and VSS Enterprise, are also distinguished from typical aircraft: while, as
Ahunt rightly points out, just about all airplanes can glide if needed, these three vehicles have planned gliding as a portion of every flight. I am not especially adamant that these be called gliders; rather I am interested in the categorization scheme being consistent. I would be happy to go with the FAA designation here, and thereby include Unity in the glider category. I am also happy to go with precedent, and leave the shuttle orbiter and VSS Enterprise in the categories they have occupied for several years. Of course, obviously, all three also have rocket portions of flight. What do you think in light of this discussion,
Ahunt and
MilborneOne ? Thank you again,
Fanyavizuri (
talk)
14:54, 30 October 2018 (UTC)reply
I appreciate the care and thought that you both put into this. Shall I go ahead with putting it in the Glider category then, recognizing that if there were ever more than three vehicles in it, something like "Rocket glider" might be more appropriate?
Fanyavizuri (
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18:58, 2 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Sure, that makes sense to me. I guess we should stipulate in any future arguments that a reliable source will carry the day. -
Ahunt (
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20:13, 2 November 2018 (UTC)reply
That is good that they licence them that way, although the photos aren't really great for this article, more just promoting Landrover. Not finding anything better I used that one you suggested. -
Ahunt (
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18:46, 22 December 2018 (UTC)reply
Commons deleted it.
Commons:File: "VSS Unity roll-out 20 February 2016.jpg" I suspect the admin on Commons doesn't understand what Jaguar Land Rover is doing. The deletion claim is bad Flickr owner, but the Flickr owner is the company itself, and the violation claim is violation of the company's copyright, which is the owner of the Flickr account. --
67.70.34.69 (
talk)
01:45, 25 December 2018 (UTC)reply
Yeah I saw that. They seem to have flagged that Flicker account as unreliable for some reason. I simply went by the CC 2.0 licence on the posted page, but they seems to think it was an unauthorized post. I have learned long ago that there are some admin issues over on commons not worth fighting. -
Ahunt (
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02:25, 25 December 2018 (UTC)reply