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Note from a passerby: The reference in the article to the "phenomenal success" of some game seems awfully hypey to me. It should at least be edited to "success".
Geneven (
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19:10, 21 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Incorrect info on the Unknown Worlds page
Part of an edit requested by an editor with a
conflict of interest has been implemented.
Hello from Unknown Worlds! There are a number of errors on the page about our company. I'd be happy to make the edits myself, but I realize there is a conflict of interest and would prefer it be done by editors.
I've removed the employee count until there's a good source for it, but I do find it strange that LinkedIn (the original stated source) shows 163 employees. Even if that's people not updating their account after leaving the company it would still be like the entire supposed staff of 38 was turned over many times.
As to Perfect Worlds, that source is anything but clear. The most straight-forward bit I saw in there was this statement: "The increase was mainly due to the sale of part of the equity of Unknown Worlds Entertainment, Inc., a subsidiary, and the remaining equity formed a long-term equity investment and the impact of investment income confirmed by other invested entities". I would say that's far too vague to confirm they've given up majority equity. Is there any public statement in a secondary source (as opposed to this report by the company itself)? I tried to search a bit, but only found a source for the initial purchase.
-- Fyrael (
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17:47, 9 February 2021 (UTC)reply
These changes related to company ownership have already been implemented by user 208.69.41.164 (an IP address in the San Francisco area). I can confirm that the Company Report for 2018 doesn’t feature Unknown Worlds anymore, so it could be that the edit is truthful. But we must now tag the page as potentially being edited by a COI author.
Ferkijel (
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12:57, 30 March 2021 (UTC)reply
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Ferkijel: please explain how adding that banner makes sense. It reads "A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject", which is extremely different from one detail being changed by an IP user that there's no evidence has any connection. Also...July 2020? I'm totally baffled by this addition.
-- Fyrael (
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19:57, 30 March 2021 (UTC)reply
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Fyrael: There’s no reliable source to confirm the company’s ownership, the role Perfect Worlds has or doesn’t have, or why it was so important to the user with the COI. The COI banner isn’t editable, so it’s either that or nothing. Since it doesn’t affect content, I thought it prudent to at least warn that COI edits are present. If you feel so strongly about it being unnecessary, feel free to remove the banner. I won’t fret. Do you have recommendations on how to deal with the not-too-infrequent situation where edits are declined, and the exact same edit request gets implemented by an anonymous user shortly after the last rejection? Cheers.
Ferkijel (
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21:18, 30 March 2021 (UTC)reply
My suggestion would be the same as for any other edit that is made without a source: try to verify the information yourself and add a source if you find something, or failing that revert the change back to what we can verify. That banner suggests to any reader who comes along that the bulk of this article was written by a potentially biased source, which is just not what has happened here. Do you think we should give that impression based on one piece of potentially incorrect information (which we can just revert if we feel like it, or tag with {{cn}})?
-- Fyrael (
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21:32, 30 March 2021 (UTC)reply