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Support – It makes sense to use the abbreviation since its what most schools use when referring to the sports teams and it's what this school uses when referring to itself. Granted, some of the websites cited by the oppose comment spell the name out I think they do that just to let readers know which school it is in an article but when they compete they do use UTRGV. I think it's for the better to change the name.
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01:46, 5 December 2016 (UTC)reply
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I disagree, because I think I've made the case why "UTRGV" is not just the school's self-used athletics name but also common in media outlets.
Arbor to SJ (
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05:04, 10 January 2017 (UTC)reply
When I do a google search, I receive 108,000 results for 'Texas–Rio Grande Valley Vaqueros' and 23,300 for 'UTRGV'. Even if I leave out the dash, I still get the same results. As I mentioned above,
the NCAA,
CBS Sports,
ESPN,
Yahoo! Sports,
Fox Sports,
USA Today, all of the major news networks don't use UTRGV. Also, on Google News, UTRGV gets about 500 results fewer than Texas–Rio Grande Valley Vaqueros. I'm not convinced that UTRGV is the WP:COMMONNAME. Corkythehornetfan (ping me)
19:34, 10 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Actually when I searched "Rio Grande Valley Vaqueros" with the quotation marks i only got around 19k results "UTRGV Vaqueros" (again, quotes included) returned around 7.7k google results; without the quotes there are around 23k results.
The Associated Press stories about UTRGV I linked alternate between the abbreviation and fuller name but primarily use the abbreviation. For instance
this story uses "Texas-Rio Grande Valley" once but the abbreviation three times.
Arbor to SJ (
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23:27, 10 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Oppose per
WP:RECOGNIZABLE and
WP:PRECISE policies, and
MOS:ABBR, and
WP:OFFICIALNAME.
WP:COMMONNAME is not even one of the naming criteria (go look it up!), it's just
WP:AT's suggestion for how to most often arrive at a name that fits the criteria. It does not always do so, and abbreviation is perhaps the most common case where it often does not (sometimes it does, as with
N.W.A. – there are cases where a) something is overwhelmingly known by the abbreviated version, and b) what the abbreviation stands for is irrelevant or may be occluded on purpose, and neither of those apply here). Corkythehornetfan's data seems to disprove any common-name claim anyway, and as all our collegiate sports articles show, we
WP:CONSISTENTly use the full name of the institution. The case here is simply one of regional people and of sports fans (and sport writers) being familiar with the acronym and not, amongst themselves, bothering to spell it out. But WP is written also for school-children in South Africa, and nurses in Singapore, etc., not just collegiate sports fans in Texas. —
SMcCandlish ☺☏¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 03:05, 13 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Oppose. "UTRGV" is unintelligible to the average reader and would make the encyclopedia less, rather than more, useful. This request also comes awfully soon on the heels of the last one.
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– A move was proposed twice, the last coming almost exactly six years ago to move to UTRGV. In that time, UTRGV has still not become the
WP:COMMONNAME, but I think an argument can be made that UT Rio Grande Valley HAS become the best reference:
ESPN.com and
CBS Sports call the team UT Rio Grande Valley, and the AP is now
referring to the team as UT Rio Grande Valley - especially relevant when plenty of sites are just running AP copy to provide notes on these games.
These names should only take on even more acceptance as time moves on, and the school prepares to add a football program.
fuzzy510 (
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