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... that on June 8, 1826, rioters destroyed
William Lyon Mackenzie's printing press in the Types Riot? Source: "On 8 June 1826, young members of the Family Compact raided William Lyon Mackenzie’s York office, smashing his printing press" (Davis-Fisch) "Just after six o’clock on the evening of June 8, 1826, a number of young men broke into Mackenzie’s house,where his printing press was located." (Sewell 60)
ALT1:... that
William Lyon Mackenzie used the money he won at the Types Riot trial to fund his first election campaign? Source: "the money was used to reestablish the Colonial Advocate in 1827, and to ironically fund his first election bid in July 1828" (Schrawers 85)
ALT2:... that the Types Riot was called "the most important debate in Upper Canadian legal history"? Source: "The Types Riot and its aftermath are the focal point of the most important debate in Upper Canadian legal history" (Wilton)
Overall: I dropped two {{cn}}s which should be fairly easy to fix, and one {{clarify}}. The request for clarification is for the phrase "… for trespassing in a civil suit". Do you mean the lawsuit was for
trespass? Verified all the hooks except for the Sewell quote which I couldn't find online, but that's independently verified by Davis-Fisch so no problem there. Flagging that the Wilton source for alt2 is from
doi:
10.2307/743957, not her later book. My favourite hook is alt 1, followed by alt0. Fantastic work on this! I'm not sure if it's possible to pick 8 June as a date, so flagging that for the promoter.AleatoryPonderings (
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03:10, 29 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi
AleatoryPonderings, yes the sentences you tagged with cn were verified by the citation at the end of the paragraph; I added citations regardless to make sure there was no confusion. The "trespassing" info is unimportant and would take too much time and effort to explain, so I removed it. Sorry about the Wilton source, I put the wrong year. For June 8, I will move it to the "Special occasion holding area" if this DYK nom is approved.
Z1720 (
talk)
19:39, 29 April 2021 (UTC)reply
"The Types Riot was the..." -> "The Types Riot refers to the..."
Done
I think the Family Compact are important enough to be mentioned in the opening sentence, probably as "... printing press and movable type by members of the Family Compact on June 8, 1826..."
"... assumed the event was sanctioned by the Upper Canadian government" can be made active as "assumed the Upper Canadian government sanctioned the event."
This section is too short to justify its own heading (
MOS:OVERSECTION: "Very short sections and subsections clutter an article with headings and inhibit the flow of the prose. Short paragraphs and single sentences generally do not warrant their own subheading.") Consider joining it in the next section.
Buidhe commented on this below that it should stay lowercase, so I won't change it right now (although I would support changing MOS for capitalisation)
"spectators were gathered" -> "spectators gathered"
Done
"the passion of the rioters was displayed without restraint" -> "the rioters displayed their passion without restraint"
Done
Immediate aftermath
"thrown Mackenzie into the bay": you refer to it as Toronto Harbour earlier, so your readers won't know that it is also called Toronto Bay
I know that the bay is called "Toronto Bay" today, but I cannot verify what the name of the bay was at that time, nor what William Jarvis called it. Sources keep referring to it as "the bay".
"Only eleven of the summoned men came to serve on the jury." This sentence confused me. Does it mean that sixteen men were summoned and only eleven showed up, or does it mean that of the sixteen summoned five were later eliminated, leaving eleven.
"Hagerman's address to the jury was printed in the Upper Canada Herald and totalled 4400 words" -> "The Upper Canada Heraldprinted Hagerman's address to the jury, totalling 4400 words
"Jarvis's wife Mary was surprised with the low amount that was awarded to Mackenzie." -> "The low amount awarded to Mackenzie surprised Jarvis's wife, Mary."
Done
"lieutenant governor" -> however you want to standardize it
Checking print sources available on Google Books as well as JSTOR journal articles indicates the info is properly sourced.
Images
The Mackenzie portrait needs a US PD tag. If it was published the
PD-old-auto 1996 tag will probably work. If it was never published, then
PD-US-unpublished
B/c the Samuel Jarvis image is an anonymous photograph we can use the
PD-Canada-anon tag instead. It also needs a US tag; the
Template:PD-old-assumed one should work.
This GA review looks very thorough to me. The only issue I see is that you are asking for the article to follow the Canadian government style instead of MOS. Unless the Canadian government style guide is adopted by consensus, then
MOS:CAPS would apply. Judging from
NGRAMS there is co consistent capitalization of the word "indigenous", so it should stay in lowercase. (
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c) buidhe13:13, 13 May 2021 (UTC)reply
Also, PD-old-assumed is NOT a US PD tag and states explicitly, "You must also include a United States public domain tag to indicate why this work is in the public domain in the United States." So this image will need a different US PD tag; PD-1996 should work. (
t ·
c) buidhe14:52, 13 May 2021 (UTC)reply
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Tkbrett:@
Buidhe: I commented on the points above. Most were fixed, but some might require a double-check (like the images). Thanks for your comments and review.
Z1720 (
talk)
16:24, 13 May 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Buidhe:: The article does use the
Use Canadian English template, but I take your point that it's not part of the MOS. A GA review is hardly the place to debate this, so I've gone ahead and struck that point. Thanks re:PD tags. Thanks so much for your help, I really appreciate it! Big fan of your work. Tkbrett (✉)18:36, 13 May 2021 (UTC)reply
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Z1720:: pass: everything looks good so I've changed the status to pass. Very nice work! Happy to see these important Canadian history pages are being fleshed out. Tkbrett (✉)18:36, 13 May 2021 (UTC)reply