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check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that after his ban on playing League of Legends was lifted, Loltyler1's return set a new record for viewership on
Twitch.tv?
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Tyler's birthday is in March, so a couple editors have attempted to put his birthday in the article. The problem is that there is no agreement on when exactly his birthday is. TheScore said his birthday is March 6, 1995 (
1:34 in this video). In a
2016 Tweet he also said March 6. In his
March 6th broadcast this year, at the end of the stream (5:49:30 in the vod) he said "tomorrow" (March 7) is his birthday. If we can find some reliable sources that say either way, that would be great.
Mokadoshi (
talk)
05:30, 8 March 2024 (UTC)reply
To be clear, I'm hesitant to use a tweet or video about his birthday if it uses uncertain phrasing like "my birthday is tomorrow" because then you need to wonder about if the post/video was posted late, or how the social media platform handles different timezones, etc. If someone can find a tweet or video from Steinkamp where he says in certain terms "March X, 1995" then I will add that to the article as per
WP:ABOUTSELF.
Mokadoshi (
talk)
03:03, 9 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Mokadoshi, I found a Dot Esportsarticle solely about his background that currently isn't on the page yet. Feel free to add and revise with info from this source. Good luck with getting this to GA. I hope you also nominate to
DYK as I see plenty of interesting hooks here! Thanks,
PantheonRadiance (
talk)
22:50, 13 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I did see that source, but I wasn't sure about it's accuracy. But in general Dot Esports is considered reliable so I'll add it.
For the DYK, what hooks would you recommend? Should I reuse the 2018 hook that after his ban on playing League of Legends was lifted,
Tyler1's return set a new record for viewership on
Twitch? (is that even allowed)?
Mokadoshi (
talk)
22:54, 13 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Oh wait, scratch that, I see it was already on DYK. I don't think you can renominate an article to DYK again, but maybe someday an article can appear once more if it reaches GA status.
PantheonRadiance (
talk)
22:55, 13 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Oh, sorry for the late reply! I think the April Fools stream would make a good one if you could expand on it. Also the
source about his chess playing is quite impressive for someone new to it - especially with his Chess Streamer award win. You could also use a hook about his variety content during his LoL ban, like his Bob Ross and magic show streams.
Also to make up for my late reply, I want to give you two tips for GA: I think you should add a bit more content from the Washington Post article as there's a lot more about his early/personal life from there. And here's another reliable
source I found as well from Intelligencer. Once again, good luck!
PantheonRadiance (
talk)
08:20, 16 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Hey, I'll review this one. Warning, that this will be my second ever GA review, so feel free to make comments or critisism towards me. I may also ask other editors for advice at points. —
PerfectSoundWhatever (
t;
c)
19:28, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Italicise League of Legends in first sentence, the last paragraph of "2014–2016", the header "2018–present", and the first paragraph of "2018–present".
The lead is too short to summarize the article's main points. Look at other internet culture GA BLPs for reference, like
SethBling or
CaptainSparklez.
You mention the title of "Most Toxic Player" in the lead, but this isn't mentioned in the body. Since the lead is a summary of the body, add this to the body.
Similarily, mention the birth date in "Personal Life" or "Early Life"
What is the "North American ladder"? Explain a bit more for those unfamilliar
I would change the word "slight" to something more widely understandable
"In April 2016" -> "In April 2016,"
In "2014–2016", much of the prose could really benefit from varying sentence structure. Much of it is either "He [did X]" or "His [X] did [X]".
"Going forward, Riot would ban" -> "Going forward, Riot banned"
"After becoming banned" -> "After being banned"
"in October" -> "in October,"
Subreddit is not capitalized.
"official r/LeagueOfLegends Subreddit's Discord server" is confusing. Is the subreddit official? Or is the server the official server of the unofficial subreddit? Rewrite for clarity.
"This record was broken a month later by Dr Disrespect's first stream" This is
WP:OFFTOPIC for a biography of Tyler1. Remove.
When is "Today"? This is given in the first sentence of a section that apparently covers 2018 till now. Does "today" include 6 years ago? See
MOS:RELTIME.
"He has won the "Best League of Legends Streamer" Why is this placed here? Put it when it happened in the timeline.
What were they playing at the "Streamer Showmatch"?
Italicise Polygon at "Austen Goslin".
"to prove a point" seems unneutral. According to who?
The layout is inconsistent. Why at the end of the timeline, after reaching 2024, we now jump to 2022 and talk about toxicity? Either re-organize it a different way in another section, or reincorporate everything into the timeline.
As far as I can tell, the Friedman Polygon source doesn't assert that Tyler1 is known as this title, its just one publication calling him that. Either find better sources to confirm that he is known by this title, or rewrite to say "according to Polygon...".
The infobox and categories say he's from Missouri, U.S. Where are the sources for this, and prose?
The "other names" section of the infobox is unsourced in the body. Add a source or remove.
Twich followers in infobox should have a citation.
Just for your information, this is a problem with the infobox, not a problem with this article. For some reason the infobox is not displaying the citation. I will bring this up at
Template talk:Infobox Twitch streamer.
Mokadoshi (
talk) 18:17, 31 March 2024 (UTC) Sorry, had my modules messed up. The Youtube and Twitch modules are coded differently. This is indeed a problem with the article.
Mokadoshi (
talk)
18:24, 31 March 2024 (UTC)reply
There are not enough inline citations in "2014–2016". Potentially contentious statements that
should have citations lack them and are creating ambiguity. For example, "Steinkamp later increased his toxic behavior in order to draw in more viewers" should not be cited by the same thing as "The video received over 2 million views on YouTube". See also
WP:CITEDENSE
Same in the 2nd para of "2016–2018"
Same issue in 2018. A reminder that ALL direct quotes require inline citations immediately after per
WP:MINREF.
The Central Methodist University citation is inadequate. It could, for example, be another person named Tyler Steinkamp and this could constitute as OR.
Sources
Dexerto is not a reliable source. Per consensus at
WP:RSP, it is "rarely suitable for use on BLPs". Please remove it and anything referenced to it, or find alternative sources.
What makes theScore esports a high-quality RS, or what makes Daniel Rosen a reliable reporter?
This is a relevant discussion
Criterion 3: Broad
At "2014–2016", is there any information of how he began playing the game, or playing games in general? Or anything about his early life at all? It's jarring to just begin his Career with him being a renowned League of Legends player.
Overall, this article mainly talks about Tyler1's toxicity controveries, gaming, and streaming career. But, it feels lacking in some aspects. What do publications think about him and his actions? What impact has he made on gaming and streaming as a whole? I haven't done a source search, so possibly this information doesn't exist online.
Criterion 4: Neutral
Not done but some comments regarding neutrality made above.
✗ Fail: Per Mokadoshi's
comments on my talk page, I am going to quickfail the article, since the Dexerto sourcing problems (in addition to prose/layout/broadness issues) make it a "long way" to meeting GACR. Hopefully my comments can help to improve the article, thanks. Happy to give further comments or advice on this article in the future. —
PerfectSoundWhatever (
t;
c)
18:38, 31 March 2024 (UTC)reply
No, a Tweet is certainly not nearly good enough. Generally unless a child is notable (meaning their is an article about them) their name is not included per
WP:BLPNAME, not to mention they are minor. It's fine to say they had a child though.
S0091 (
talk)
22:00, 21 April 2024 (UTC)reply