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"upper" and "lower" hips... Just the one set of hips. Murphyryan1 ( talk) 04:59, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
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The reference section doesn't provide a lot of useful information about the history of the art form. I found this article after I read the Wikipedia information and it has a lot of useful information about the history of the dance. It would make a good addition to the reference section. The author, Mark Graham, is a reputable music/pop culture journalist. http://www.vh1.com/music/tuner/2013-08-07/twerking-complete-history/ 74.68.114.227 ( talk) 17:04, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
This article is so unencyclopedic it hurts. Please delete. 16:03, 22 August 2013 2605:E000:BE80:D000:7CAC:BA31:7514:65F5 ( talk) 02:05, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
"By last year, it had generated enough currency to be added to our new words watch list, and by this spring, we had enough evidence of usage frequency in a breadth of sources to consider adding it to our dictionaries of current English,"
"The dictionary said the word had been around for 20 years, but the evidence for it to be included in the dictionary had tipped the scale when U.S. pop star Miley Cyrus gave a controversial and headline producing twerking dance at the MTV Video Music Awards on August 26, 2013."
Can the above sentance be ammended. The referenced source doesn't mention Milly Cirus tipping the scales.
If you look at the bbc article ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23861702) they had enough evidence of it being use by spring. Which is sooner than August 27 when Milly Cirus twerked.
It should read: "The dictionary said the word had been around for 20 years, but by spring 2013 it was on the considered words list, and late 2013 it was added."
Pingurick ( talk) 18:26, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
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Please add information about Miley Cyrus' performance w/Robin Thicke at VMA 2013 and her "Twerk"
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Okay "Twerking" has been in the south (Florida and Atlanta for sure since the late 80's). We didn't have a name for it. It was simply booty shaking. Check 2 Live Crew Videos like throw that P, and throw that D, "Shake what you mama gave ya" Poison Clan videos also. That's only a few but we"twerked" like that to these songs before 93. Ask anyone who's been to Freaknik in Atlanta. These where all before 1993. !-- End request -->
I love twerking — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.174.85.95 ( talk) 04:08, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Now I know this is just original research, but where I come from (California), twerking is used almost interchangeably with grinding. The connotation being that grinding is exclusively a partner dance, while twerking is a broader term that can be used to describe the female's movements with or without the male. I find it odd that under origins of an American dance, the first thing we mention is a traditional African dance. I kind of get the feeling that the article mentions this because it is predominately present in the Black American community. But how much influence does a traditional African dance have on an American dance whose earliest traces of existence span only to 1993? I'm not saying that that one link we have is irrelevant, but it should maybe not be the first thing since grinding is the obvious predecessor. I'm not even sure predecessor describes it correctly since its another word for the same thing. TBWarrior720 ( talk) 15:06, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
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Twerking originated in eastern Hong Kong and was brought to light by international pop singer, PSY. This exciting sport, usually done by men, allows individuals to loosen their thigh and lower buttocks muscles by by moving up and down in a squat motion.Rumors have it that this activity will be added to the Summer Olympics 2016. The word 'twerk' comes from the Hindu religion meaning squat. Twerking has been a real hit in 2013 and is becoming very famous in the celebrity world. Daniellalalala ( talk) 02:07, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Hiya. If a video of twerking is being looked for, YouTube has a whole slew of them licensed CC-BY 2.0. Personally, I've got no metric to determine what makes a 'good' twerk, so I'll let someone else pick their favorite/the most exemplary one. Just be careful that the one that's chosen isn't an improperly tagged copyrighted repost from a YouTube-washing account. 143.229.249.153 ( talk) 19:00, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Here's a video. Could someone add it? Retreadmcnair ( talk) 21:48, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
The caption under Cyrus' photo at the MTV Music Awards says "The performance was negatively received by the media." While I don't doubt that claim, it is exactly that, a claim. Without a citation for that claim, this sentence should probably be removed. Schlice ( talk) 21:31, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Please correct the reference to Bieber as an American pop artist. PlainWordsJane ( talk) 18:51, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
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Can you please add that Destiny's Child used "twerk it" in 2005's "Check on it". Thanks 108.220.25.52 ( talk) 15:46, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
The word Twerk is a cross between Tweaker (A person twitching and body spasms due to excessive drug use) and hooker (Prostitute). Often used by pimps to describe EX employees to damaged (by drugs) to make money. Girls who want to twerk it... are girls who want to work the high-class corner but should not be there. The ladies working on the low end of the prostitution stroll are known and Twerkers. Tweaking hookers.
In retrospect wanting to twerk is the same as wanting to be a broken down tweaking out hooker on the low end of the prostitution corner. This information should be included in the history section. Be it's more modern use is widely used maybe around children who will find out it's real meaning and maybe think that is how females want to be treated.
--Lived on the streets as a youth years 9. --Worked youth street outreach 9 years.
This is not a matter of slander. It's a matter of the word being misused and plastered everywhere.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.221.75.25 ( talk) 14:43, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
-- Sorry but that is just emphasis on the specific connotation/observation that twerking is a bold and vulgar action or behavior. That highly specific usage does not define the word's meaning or its origin. The truth is that quite a few prostitutes who work high society are tweakers but who have the minimum style, manners, and discretion to sort of blend in. If you apply a little thought there are several other words that can be used to point out why a specific prostitute is not qualified for high society work (loud, brassy, disheveled, manic etc) -- all of which are just specific examples of a lack of manners and discretion. 2605:6000:1011:4083:D522:2E64:E9E8:794B ( talk) 22:39, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
It's a portmanteau of "TWAT" and "jerk". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.72.180.68 ( talk) 16:03, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Agreed. But reliable source for street slang? LOL - of course Wikipedia means a celebrity source. Since that is usually the first source of published words that an academic can quote. Just amusing that on examination etmologists admit they see language as defined by the popular public written usage of celebrities (including literary celebrities) rather than the public at large. And of course Wikpedia needs to go one step more refined demanding a concensus analysis by authorities as informally appointed by number of published works or perceived popular opinion.
Oh wait you can't quote actual usage because that is merely data for orignal research. You can only use secondary academic sources -- the academic analysis of a previous academic research using quotes as data. Wikipedia still clinging to the idea that etmologies and academic work in general isn't worthwhile until it has 30 years or two generations of consideration befoer being placed before the easily deceived public. Well better than the newspaper scientists doing sciences by popular survey without any experimental design to avoid bias and test for its presence -- worse when its the biochemistry of medicine (which medicine is more effective the one that says organic and natural or this obviously man-made stuff exactly matching the extract from this latin named stuff."
LOL -- Sometimes Wikipedia formality is a bit absurd in a social world that is largely informal. But yes eventually 5 years or so down the line enough celebrities will use a word in a published context enough times that etmologists can formal certify that the word exists. Or course the more vulgar the word...the more common its use will already be before PC society can admit it to the necessary widely circulate public circles. And it may take an additional 5-30 years before there is enough consensus to agree on where the word came from. 2605:6000:1011:4083:D522:2E64:E9E8:794B ( talk) 23:01, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Greetings - the Etymology section suggests that this word was created intentionally. As far as I understood it, it grew out of a simple weird pronunciation of a word. I believe there is a 90s dance tune with a repeated phrase "work, baby.." where it SOUNDS like the person is saying "twerk, baby.." but the official lyrics say work. People always used to comment on that unusual pronunciation; when I finally heard of "twerking" I assumed they just assigned a dance move to it. I do not believe there was any concious intent to coin this as an intentional phrase, but rather just chose to assign a dance move to an unusual pronunciation or mis-heard lyric. Centerone ( talk) 16:06, 4 August 2013 (UTC) To me, it seems an obvious contraction of the phrase, "to work it."
Another theory: It is possible that it is a misspelling/slight mispronunciation of the word "torque," which means to force rotation on an axis, which is indeed what is done with the hips when twerking. See the Wikipedia definition of torque. Also notable is an instance at Comic Con 2013 where physicist Neil deGrasse Tyson made a quip about Ann Druyan's use of the phrase "torque the zeitgeist." Making a play on the similarity of the words "torque" and "twerk," deGrasse Tyson said, "She used 'torquing the zeitgeist,' which is the most awesome pair of words...If you're going to torque something, let it be the zeitgeist," to which the panel moderator responded, "You go, girl!" Dubhlinn2 ( talk) 15:10, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Pretty simple origin. "Twerk" is a mashup of "to work". Add a southern drawl, Ebonics and maybe some Colt 45 malt liquor, and you get "twerk". As in --- "tell dat bitch twerk it..."
The word Twerk is a cross between Tweaker (A person twitching and body spasms due to excessive drug use) and hooker (Prostitute). Often used by pimps to describe EX employees to damaged (by drugs) to make money. Girls who want to twerk it... are girls who want to work the high-class corner but should not be there. The ladies working on the low end of the prostitution stroll are known and Twerkers. Tweaking hookers.
In retrospect wanting to twerk is the same as wanting to be a broken down tweaking out hooker on the low end of the prostitution corner. This information should be included in the history section. Be it's more modern use is widely used maybe around children who will find out it's real meaning and maybe think that is how females want to be treated.
--Lived on the streets as a youth years 9. --Worked youth street outreach 9 years.
This is not a matter of slander. It's a matter of the word being misused and plastered everywhere....
Ok, another theory. The twerk dance step closely resembles the Time Warp dance step (Rocky Horror Picture Show, 1973). The song claims "... It's the pelvic thrust, that really drives you insane! Let's do the Time Warp again!" That pelvic thrusting was work, compared to the rest of the dance steps. Hence, twerk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hendersonmc ( talk • contribs) 22:22, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Origin is a lot more earthy I am afraid. portmanteau of "Tw(at) (J)erking" directly referring to simulated doggy style sexual intercourse and particularly the final orgasmatic climax movements (assuming the dancer is athletic enough). 2605:6000:1011:4083:D522:2E64:E9E8:794B ( talk) 22:28, 31 October 2013 (UTC) Twerking is when you shake your rear end — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.21.119.18 ( talk) 22:15, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
I clearly disagree that this dancing style is in any way "sexually provocative". The straight opposite may be the case for many individuals as it exposes potential adipositas and a floppy bodyshape which can be disgusting and a real down-turner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.192.46.39 ( talk) 09:19, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
In September of 2013 Big Freedia, an American musician known for work in the New Orleans genre of hip hop called bounce music, and 358 participants set the Guinness world record by twerking for two minutes straight in New York City. Fuse Article Daily Mail Article Time Article HuffPost Article 31jetjet ( talk) 01:05, 29 December 2013 (UTC) 31jetjet
Please include information regarding black blues singer Jackie Neal using word Twurk on album "Money can't buy me Love" as found on YouTube.com [1]
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" Twerking can carry both gendered and racialized connotations." This line is out of place and doesn't make sense. 24.158.92.197 ( talk) 04:06, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
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Please add section :
Internet culture
In 2011 YouTwerk.com was launched where visitors submit and share twerking videos. A subreddit /r/twerk exists where Redditors share and vote on twerk-related content. [2]
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Not sure if the information under the "Influence" section is all relevant to the header. Maybe a new header such as "Controversies" should be used to talk about the students, Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus and possibly include more controversial information that has made media headlines, like Iggy Azaelia. Kayserroll ( talk) 23:19, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
'Twerking' ,as it is called, was introduced to the United States around 2000 with the influx of popular West Indian (Caribbean) artiste including Sean Paul, Niki Minaj and others. It's popularity is also fueled by the Carnival Celebrations in Miami, Toronto and Brooklyn (areas populated by the West Indian Diaspora ). The dance of itself is really called a 'wine' made popular almost a century ago as one of the main dances of the Trinidad Carnival which is now accepted as the World's most widely spread Carnival. There a over 100 Trinidad type Carnivals in the World Today as far reaching as Africa, the Far East, Europe and North America. Twerking is just one variation of the 'wine' which is a sensual dance between two partners (Mainly male and female). Some versions include 'wining' fully prostrated on the ground while others are done lifted on another person's shoulder. Many singers have addressed this dance over the last seventy-five years. A search on youtube under 'soca' , 'carnival' , 'wining' should afford informative viewing ..... Public Informaton 186.45.72.90 ( talk) 14:55, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
You can find twerking in American rap videos going back to 1989-90. I don't know where you get 2000 from. 66.233.214.191 ( talk) 12:03, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
There has been somone from OED on UK BBC radio, asserting the word is a portmanteau or twisting and jerking, and there are references back to 1810. This ofc wont stop wikipedia printing innaccurate bollox, however. 81.171.97.135 ( talk) 11:06, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
The information on kordaks contains no references. Also, it's introduced like an excerpt from a source, but not formatted/punctuated as such.
Furthermore, I'm very doubtful of the impact on twerking by this 2500-year old dance from Greece. While there may be some connection, the more recent influences should be mentioned before dances from antiquity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scott5K ( talk • contribs) 18:43, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
Does the section really need to contain so many separate instances of twerking? I mean it's becoming ridiculous. Cra sh Underride 12:47, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
I have removed references to Greek origins of Twerking. There is absolutely no evidence of this assertion in the source listed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DanJazzy ( talk • contribs) 20:27, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
The banner was removed because the notion of excessive detail is subjective and this article clearly contains many reputable sources that show the cultural and critical academic interest in this subject. Hexatekin ( talk) 18:47, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
DJ Jubilee 1980/1993 is misattributed
Twerking - "The earliest use of the word "twerk" on record was produced in a local New Orleans recording by DJ Jubilee."
DJ Jubilee 1993 recording - "DJ Jubilee began DJing at parties in the 1980s and achieved significant recognition for his 1993 cassette single Do The Jubilee All.[3]
This song contains the first recorded use of the word 'twerk'.[4]"
Complete and utter usanian churnalistic shite, based on a 2013 article.
Two articles conflict, twerking infers earliest was 1980's, but he didn't actually record it until 1993.
Earlier uses and recordings of Twerk and Twerky exist before DJ Jubilee's 1993 recording.
BBC radio recordings, broadcast January 1982,
Earthsearch A New Adventure Serial in Time and Space is a BBC Radio 4 science fiction series written by James Follett.
Earthsearch II, Surrender, (i.e. series 2, episode 3), characters make 2 mentions of Twerky at 25:30, on the iPlayer recording.
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Dialog -
"We've been having some weirdness with some of the androids too, going twerky.",
"? Twerky ?",
"Yeah, ....."
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To anonymous user who posted above: Thanks for attempting to contribute to the discussion here. To clarify, "twerky" and "twerking" are false cognates.
In linguistics or language use, there is a phenomenon called " False cognate". When two pairs of words appear to a reader or listener to have similar etymology or origin simply because the words share the same letters or sounds. Check the Oxford English Dictionary. The term used in this article is not an adjective ("twerky") as the reference mentioned above from a non-dance context. Twerk is a dance and entered the OED in 2013. There are earlier uses of a term but the symbolic use and meaning is different. — Preceding sheridanford ( talk) 12:49, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
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I would like to suggest that the word "twerk" is a portmanteau of the words "butt" and "werk (work)", much like the word "blog" is a portmanteau of "web" and "log" KennZAney1 ( talk) 12:23, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
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Epl ( talk) 05:46, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
Can you clarify that first mention was from Gil Scott-Heron - Moving Target, 1982? -Lyrics- Watch her do it she gon do it real good Left right left right real good Up down up down real good Damn girl shake it shake it real good B.K Got too many hoes Gotta make the switch Spend a million on some shoes hell yeah I'm rich TWERK some girl cuz im killin this shit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Depesha ( talk • contribs) 12:04, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering about a kind of "twerking" in the Caribbean. There is a kind of dance referred to as "work" or "wuk up" for slang and seems to be the exact same thing as twerking or close to it. It seems this work-up dancing was popular in the Caribbean waaay before it got popular in the U.S. Can anyone from the Caribbean confirm this? -- Turn685 ( talk) 08:00, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
-- Gruepig ( talk) 18:00, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Anyone from the Caribbean would know that the birthplace of so called ``Twerk`` is Jamaican Dance Hall from the 1980`s. We were calling it when it it became mainstream in 2011. I have no clue how they found references for this to say in stated in the the U.S south.
On the article They started with the British / Caribbean origins of the term but then go on to say that its false, which its not. ---The Oxford English Dictionary defines an 18th-century use of the word as a blend of "twist" and "jerk", which was reported by the BBC in conjunction with the black cultural context, but this seems to be an erroneous connection or a false cognate.[10]
In Guyana its was also called jook (jerk). Then later Wukup (Bdos. Guyn, Trinidad). So called twerk (the lewder version of wukup) definitely originated from 1980`s Dance Hall. When Girls in Jamaica went to Dance hall events (away from family eyes), they were able to whatever they want, and in many places there were competitions, so the dancing become more and more audacious, as they tried to out due each other. Definitely Jamaican Dance Hall origins. I dont see how it cant be. Starbwoy ( talk) 08:17, 1 December 2020 (UTC) Starbwoy ( talk) 08:18, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
@ Algomancer: Can you discuss your removal of the section "Linked to Africa and the African diaspora" here? The sources I checked, and the main articles that are wikilinked there, seem to support the section: it clearly, indirectly links the article subject to other dance forms that have existed in Africa for much longer. Idell ( talk) 09:19, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Algomancer ( talk) 10:19, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
I added info on the recent Taylor Swift video & controversy. Any help would be apreciated. Thanks. Brenne ( talk) 22:52, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
These sources discuss the traditional African origins of twerking it comes from the Mapouka dance
https://sites.psu.edu/mnshermanpassion/2017/03/17/twerking-a-brief-history/
https://progressivepupil.wordpress.com/2013/10/26/african-origins-of-twerking/
https://face2faceafrica.com/article/traditional-african-roots-twerking-videos
https://vocal.media/beat/the-history-of-twerking
Zaqki ( talk) 07:01, 1 February 2022 (UTC)