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How can Mantle be the last person to win the Triple Crown when shortly after this, it says Carl Yaz won it in 1967? Wikipedia is not fact!!!
Charts are a little confusing. There's no way to distinguish a league winner from a Major's winner.
[July 28, 2010]
This article says that Grover Cleveland Alexander won the triple crown three times. The article on Alexander says that he won it four times.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover_Cleveland_Alexander —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stingermn ( talk • contribs) 13:13, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Some of these stats look old. Baseball-Reference.com, for example, has Lajoie hitting .426 in 1901. Older books may have wrong numbers for a variety of reasons, principly because statistics weren't comprehensively kept at the time. SABR guys reading through old boxscores occasionally have to update stats, which I suspect is the case here. If no one objects, I'll update the listed stats to be in line with either MLB.com or Baseball-Reference.com, which are the most reliable, up to date sources I have access to. WilyD 20:36, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Kingturtle 18:20, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
What we can do is provide the Official list, and a Sabramatrician list and explain why there are differences. Kingturtle 21:50, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
Why does table show Hugh Duffy not in the Hall of Fame? Duffy was inducted in 1945. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcus0202 ( talk • contribs) 16:43, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Why is Charles Radbourn 1884 Triple Crown not listed as "Major League" triple Crown?
Charles Radbourn 1884 strikouts did not lead the majors. Daily had 483, Shaw 451 and Radbourn 441.
There were other major leagues around back then. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.123.52.248 ( talk) 02:03, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
What is this stuff about a "major league triple crown"? No one talks about this. I guarantee you, if you talk about a triple crown winner around people who know baseball, no one goes "which do you mean, the league triple crown, or the major league triple crown?"
Look no further than MLB's official stats page. If the charts and wording of the article are confusing, they can be clarified. What is normative for existing baseball encyclopedias is not particularly relevant when plenty of noteworthy references exist to the MLTC outside of baseball encyclopedias. N6 16:45, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
It looks like the chart headings are messed up: the heading "Major League Winners - pitching" is directly underneath "Major League Winners - batting." The batting table should be in between. I couldn't figure out how to fix it. Rdodger ( talk) 16:01, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
*Visual Layout of Tabular Data Would it not make more sense, visually, to place the asterisk denoting MLTC next to the dagger in the box with the player's name - instead of placing it next to each of the three category statistics? I spent better than 10 minutes perusing the article before I figured out where the indicator was. Since the nature of holding this distinction requires that the player lead both leagues in all three categories, it seems redundant to have each of the categories asterisked and causes the point to be lost. Irish Melkite ( talk) 04:12, 4 October 2012 (UTC) 04:11, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
I don't think it makes sense to have an both an asterisk/dagger AND a color change to indicate Hall of Fame status, Major League Triple Crown status, etc. There should be one mark to denote these things; having two confuses the reader into thinking that there are two clarifications being made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gbmontgo ( talk • contribs) 16:46, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
I just reverted a sequence of edits adding Johan Santana to the AL and ML pitching triple crown lists. While his position here is almost assured at this point--he is not scheduled to pitch again this season, and the only pitcher with a conceivable chance to pass him in any category (Brandon Webb, ERA) would have to pitch a 10-inning shutout in his last start--but let's wait until it's truly official. I'm a Twins fan and have already personally celebrated Santana's accomplishment, but it is too early to put it in an encyclopedia. =) N6 16:39, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Santana will tie in Wins. We should note that by placing his win totals in Italics. Also, any other ties in previous triple crowns should be noted with italics. Kingturtle 18:01, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't feel that it is necessary to indicate ties in TC categories. A Triple Crown is a Triple Crown is a Triple Crown. If no distinction is made in general parlance between a Triple Crown that includes a tie and one that doesn't, why should one be made here? N6 16:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Has there been any writing or theorizing that anyone knows of about why this has come about? For hitting that is. Thanks. W.C. 16:50, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Decades?? No NL player has won the TC for over 70 years?? Dcrasno ( talk) 21:58, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
I think there is a somewhat misleading aspect to this article. There is no award actually handed out for "winning" the triple crowd. Many articles, Cy Young for example, make it appear as if the Triple Crown is an actual award. This needs to be fixed. Are there any suggestions on how to do this? I would consider this a "interesting" fact or "notable achievement". // Tecmobowl 02:02, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
While there is not, to my knowledge, any tangible plaque or trophy awarded for players who attain triple crowns, and I personally do not think of it as an award, Baseballreference.com does list Triple Crown Winners under the site's "Awards Index" tab.
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I don't dispute that it probably exists, but I've never heard of it before, and I'm a life long baseball fan. I just asked my dad and he hasn't heard of it either. Is it a new thing? Perhaps since the advent of sabremetrics? You might want to make it clearer that the term generally refers to the hitting title. Or refer to the fact that the pitching crown is a relatively new innovation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.127.51.82 ( talk • contribs) 28 October 2007
I've never heard of it either. Not ONCE. The triple crown is two things: horse racing and baseball batting. Everything else is part of the general trend of wikipedia overdocumenting nonsense. 74.72.194.60 ( talk) 00:32, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
I think the misconceptions about both triple crowns and especially the MLTC may be, in part, geographical. No ML hitter has ever achieved the Crown west of St. Louis. No ML pitcher had ever achieved the Crown west of St. Louis until Sandy Koufax did it in 1963 in LA (Koufax achieved three [consecutive] pitching triple crowns in '63, '65 and '66 [no award in '64] and all three were for the MLTC). I don't know about the rest of the country but this discussion has been going and in our family in NYC since before I was born in '52. In the modern era, the TC for hitting (and I generously include Ty Cobb from Detroit in '09), except for the the three St. Louis Cardinal TC awards (two for Rogers Hornsby, one for Joe Medwick), it's generally an East Coast thing. Dcrasno ( talk) 23:34, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Who is saying that s/he never heard a "Pitching Triple Crown"? It is a well-used term. For example, the index of winners listed on Baseball Reference uses the terms "Batting Triple Crown" and "Pitching Triple Crown". [1] Thegooddogman ( talk) 05:06, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
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Baseball Reference does not list Hugh Duffy as a Triple Crown winner. [1] Can we get a ruling on this? Thegooddogman ( talk) 05:06, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
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I went through and cleaned up the tables by making the entries standardized. Things were being linked in one place, but half way down the page, the link would be gone, only to reapeer later. Also changed the way the major league triple crown table is set up by adding a league column, and taking out the -AL or -NL that some teams had affixed to their name. All in all I think it made the article look more consistent. Trek222 ( talk) 06:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Re "Major League Triple Crown", I was chastised (by Ed Fitzgerald) of vandalising this article with "added nonsense" because I corrected the entry stating that Carl Yastzremski was the most recent winner of the Major League Triple Crown in 1967 by correcting Yaz with Mickey Mantle in 1956. Wiki's own published list in this article states Mantle as the last MLTC winner but states in the notes that it was Yaz. Yaz was the most recent TC winner in 1967 but it was only the AL TC winner- he did not lead in all three catagories in BOTH leagues.-- Dcrasno ( talk) 01:24, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
I question the existence of this section within this article. First of all, I've been following baseball for over thirty years and have never heard this term. I found no reliable sources that use this term. What's the point of having it at all? If nothing else, it's confusing to the casual reader. - Dewelar ( talk) 23:03, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
I disagree with the recent mass table merge. The abbreviations aren't clarified anywhere, and I am really tired of seeing abbreviations of league names in tables where simple workarounds like section headers or writing the name out in full are easy and available. Although it's not a valid argument, I also just plain don't like it. I think the old way was much cleaner. I'm not just going to jump in and mass-revert all of Muboshgu's contributions, but I think this should have been discussed before this particular bold action due to the fact that this is a featured list. — KV5 • Talk • 00:27, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
The St. Louis Cardinals have only 3, tied with the Red Sox. The article incorrectly says the St. Louis Cardinals used to be the St. Louis Browns. This is not true, the Browns were a separate teams playing side-by-side with the Cards in St. Louis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.228.112.61 ( talk) 02:38, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
I think too much attention in this article is paid to the fact that Miguel Cabrera is not in the Hall of Fame (alternately, "one of only two offensive TC winners not in the HOF"). Of course he isn't, as an active player. This is patently obvious to any baseball fan (some other sports do enshrine still-active participants in their HOF) and the article makes it seem like Cabrera is the victim of some sort of injustice, which is not so. Doug Ewell 21:59, 4 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by DougEwell ( talk • contribs)
The section on "Quadruple Batting Crown" defined it as leading the league in hits in addition to the three traditional Triple Crown categories. It noted that it is not officially recognized by MLB, but in fact it is not generally considered a thing a thing at all. Newspaper articles using the term "Quadruple Crown" in baseball are infrequent. The earliest I could find were from Mickey Mantle's 1956 Triple Crown season, adding runs scored to home runs, runs batted in, and batting average. Runs were also added to the traditional three in articles in 1994 and 2001, talking about the possibility of a Quadruple Crown by Jeff Bagwell and Frank Thomas (1994), and Sammy Sosa (2001). (None ending up as even Triple Crown winners.) Other articles in different years adding stolen base or slugging average as a fourth category. Articles about Negro League Hall of Famer Turkey Stearns used doubles, triples, home runs, and stolen bases. There were even articles adding a non-statistical fourth category: defense or a pennant.