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I placed them here (the Mississippi tornadoes after midnight), but I am not sure if they are officially considered 2010 or 2011 tornadoes in the SPC statistics? Once that is confirmed, they will get moved to 2010 if they belong there or left here, with footnotes. I used 0600Z (midnight CST) as the timepoint. CrazyC83 ( talk) 23:32, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
Agreed, only a few tornadoes occurred. Not a very significant event and does not deserve it's own article. Create articles on The March 5-10 outbreak and February 24-28 outbreak instead.
I noticed that the article for the February 2011 tornado outbreak is missing. From the 24th to the 28th, there were 55 tornadoes confirmed. There were two back-to back systems that caused the tornadoes. That in my book is a significant outbreak and well deserving of an article.
The March 5-10 sequence may be worthy of an article as well. A total of 32 tornadoes with this outbreak. —Preceding Sharkguy05 comment added by 184.58.26.140 ( talk) 22:42, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
I'm going to make a temporary section about the early April outbreak. I don't know much about it but I'll make it until someone comes along with better info ~~I don't have an account on here~~ UPDATE:It appears someone added an april section just as I wrote this. No I'm telling you it wasn't there before I wrote this.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.64.218.232 ( talk) 00:53, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
April 4 totally warrants an article. Major high impact event that caused major damage over huge areas. Just because there weren't devastating tornadoes doesn't mean it doesn't deserve an article. There's plenty of noteworthy damage... dozens of homes were heavily damaged especially in places like Memphis and Charlotte. Worst derecho in years... clearly deserves an article sicne lots of other derechos have one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.50.95.2 ( talk) 04:00, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Get it started and I will help fill in the tornado chart descriptions. Don't forget to add the Ararat, NC tornado, which seems to be left out of tornadoes of 2011.The tornado reports are now at 63 and wind damage reports are in the thousands. Surely this needs an article. Sharkguy05 ( talk) 11:10, 8 April 2011 (UTC)Sharkguy05
Ok got it started. Is going to need some work though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sharkguy05 ( talk • contribs) 18:17, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Just so no one gets confused or angry, I've been removing a few events listed in the main article that really don't warrant mention. These include events with less than three tornadoes (unless one was EF2 or higher) and events in which no damage took place or was limited to vegitation. This includes areas outside the United States as a standard has to be set to keep this page under control (though it's relatively small for the time being) as time goes by. Cyclonebiskit ( talk) 17:02, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
I like the idea! Maybe we should get a consensus to make it policy or a guideline? I would make it that significant damage(like what was seen in NZ today as a minimum?) needs to be done, not some broken limbs, broken window, ect. Bidgee ( talk) 11:39, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Should today be bad, an article will likely be warranted. How should we treat it:
Since there was a significant blizzard on the backside of this storm and widespread wind damage, I was thinking of using one of the more generic titles April 2011 North American storm complex. Could also name the current one as the Mid-April outbreak and the 9-10 one as the Iowa-Wisconsin outbreak. Cyclonebiskit ( talk) 16:30, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Do you think we need an article for the st. louis tornado? 24.235.72.105 ( talk) 15:45, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
By the way, it was at least an EF4. Since surveys are still ongoing, they might find EF5 damage somewhere. CrazyC83 ( talk) 20:32, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
I agree it warrants an article. They do have good details out indeed, although it is still a bit disorganized (it makes it appear there were multiple tornadoes when it is likely it was a single tornado - we will have to wait and see). CrazyC83 ( talk) 00:02, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
With two smaller back-to-back outbreaks in the same areas center around MO, IL, and down into OK on the 22nd and IN and western OH on the 19th. it might be best to create April 2011 tornado outbreak sequence. On the 19th there were 74 tornado reports, with what looks like some multi reports of the same tornadoes so probably will be in the 55-60 range and yesterday there was just about 30 tornado reports and about 10 from the Bridgeton EF4 area so the number of tornadoes for April 22 (early 23rd will probably be around 20-25. Bhockey10 ( talk) 00:48, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
Article already created at Late-April 2011 tornado outbreak sequence. Options are:
I prefer Option 1. CrazyC83 ( talk) 20:45, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
The question is ... have we reached the record tornado emergency record for a month time period? there is another one tonight. 24.235.72.105 ( talk) 23:30, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
The map under "Synopsis" is incorrect. There were many deaths in areas not in the red spots. There were deaths throughout north alabama (especially Hackleburg and Phil Campbell). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.29.248.200 ( talk) 06:59, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Minor detail, but the section for the 24-28th of April 2011 outbreak links to a main article titled 25-28th. Any clarification? MrZoolook ( talk) 08:43, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
It is listed in the the list of F5 and EF5 tornadoes that they were two recorded EF5 but here it says they were only one so which article is right? -- 109.76.99.32 ( talk) 20:42, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
2 have been reported at the time of my entry, but both occured in open fields and did no damage
here's an article for one.
99.126.97.154 ( talk) 00:59, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
There is a section in the article titled April 19-24 and another title April 22. As a result the St. Louis tornado and a few others are listed twice. If these tornadoes were produce by the same storm system the two articles should be merged or the latter removed. If they are not the time span for former section should be changed along with the list of tornadoes. TornadoLGS ( talk) 23:08, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Will this warrant an article I wonder? So far it hasn't but today is just cranking up. Should a sandbox begin? CrazyC83 ( talk) 20:06, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
FACT CHECK: The Joplin tornadoes' early death toll was not 125; initial reports suggested a low of 24 and high of 35. The number 125 did not spring up until several days later. (Early article:
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References
The small tornado charts do not include Total tornadoes. Is this intentional or arbitrary? I find not having the totals to be like there is something missing. I tend to look in the EF0 column and think that is the total number of tornadoes, because I expect there to be a total. TimL ( talk) 03:03, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
Humans like to solve puzzles. They like to find reasons for events. I ask myself why there is suddenly an almost exponential increase in the rate of occurrence of strong, damaging tornadoes in the USA this year. I would like to see WP articles like this one report the developing thinking of scientists: is the greater rate just a statistical fluctuation, or are there specific reasons, causes? Also, is there a corresponding increased occurrence of strong tornadoes in countries other than the USA or not? Perhaps I haven't looked in the right place, and WP has already answered these questions... David Spector (talk) 12:25, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
The St. Louis, Missouri EF4 tornado and a few other tornadoes on April 22 seem to be listed twice, first in the section of the April 19-20 outbreak, and then in the April 22 outbreak. I personally do not know if these were part of the same outbreak or different outbreak, though the article implies that they were part of the same event. If that's the case then the April 22 section is redundant and should be removed and the previous section should be expanded up through April 22 as it already mentions those tornadoes anyway. Though I am not quite certain enough of this to make the edit myself. I have previously mentioned this issue, but it seems no attempt has been made to resolve it. TornadoLGS ( talk) 16:27, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
These are the sections in question : Tornadoes of 2011#April 19 – 20 and Tornadoes of 2011#April 22 TornadoLGS ( talk) 02:08, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Over the past few weeks there have been a few major/notable severe events that produced widespread wind and/or hail damage but few tornadoes. Since this article is focused on tornadoes, should these events be included within the article or removed (examples: May 29/30 and June 8-9). If they're removed there will be no mention of them on the site but the focus of this article will remain intact. Cyclonebiskit ( talk) 16:46, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
They should get some weight on getting a section in borderline cases, but if there were few or no tornadoes, it should not be added. CrazyC83 ( talk) 03:55, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
If this system spawns more then 40 tornadoes (confirmed that is), should it be considered for an article? Or will a section on the main article suffice? - Marcusmax( speak) 20:55, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Here is the priority order IMO for updating everything (it will take a while):
1) Update the April 25-28 outbreak page. That was clearly the most prolific event and could ultimately take the title 2011 Super Outbreak but more consensus is necessary and is Top-importance. That should be updated first.
2) Update the April 14-16 outbreak page. That was the #2 outbreak for the month and will, combined with 25-28, have much of the totals. It should have major updates and perhaps rating changes, so it would be better to work from there.
3) Update the April 2011 tornadoes page. That will allow the remaining pages to have final numbers available, and it would be simpler to go there then copy and paste all the other articles and merge back there.
4) Update the remaining event articles and on this page. Most will be minor other than copying and pasting and are lower importance.
CrazyC83 ( talk) 19:29, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
I wanted to make sure before making any edits, but shouldn't the Goderich, Ontario tornado be listed as an F3 rather than an EF3? I was under the impression the Environment Canada still rated tornadoes the original Fujita scale. TornadoLGS ( talk) 21:25, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
A bunch of my posts were deleted - these tornados are "Tornadoes of 2011". Who decided that "Tornadoes of 2011" meant "Non-isolated, significantly damaging Tornadoes of 2011"?
2011 confirmed tornadoes with F-ratings
Fergus, Ontario April 27, 2011 F0 Downed trees and siding ripped off store buildings.
Shaunavon, Saskatchewan June 2, 2011 F0 Granaries near Highway 37 were damaged and thrown from their original location. Several power lines were also damaged.
Ottawa River between Aylmer, Quebec and Kanata, Ontario June 23, 2011 F0 Localized damage in remote wooded areas.
Calgary, Alberta July 13, 2011 F0 12 buildings over a one block area were affected. Some damaged roofs and flooded streets.
Between Saguenay and Quebec City, Quebec July 20, 2011 F1 Powerful wind gusts were able to pick up a driving car.
Between Wyoming and Watford, Ontario July 23, 2011 F2 Several steel hydro towers crumpled and damage to a barn.
Sainte-Elisabeth-de Proulx, Quebec August 6, 2011 F1 Uprooted trees, damage to cottages and hydro poles.
From west of Kenora to Sioux Lookout, Ontario August 16, 2011 F0 Trees flattened, uprooted.
Goderich, Ontario August 21, 2011 F3 One fatality, numerous people injured, structural damage to buildings, roofs removed, numerous vehicles overturned and trees down.
Between Cambridge and Burlington, Ontario August 24, 2011 F1 Trees downed, greatest damage in Kirkwall.
Nairn, northwest of London, Ontario August 24, 2011 F1 Destruction of large farm shed and numerous trees.
These are all Tornadoes of 2011 in my opinion. If not going to be listed under tornadoes of 2011 where is a better place on wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Napdaw ( talk • contribs) 22:50, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
Then shouldn't this one be included according to the criteria? But it was deleted. Between Wyoming and Watford, Ontario July 23, 2011 F2 Several steel hydro towers crumpled and damage to a barn. Maybe there is more to your "critera".
I think a change of title or disclosure on the main page of the critera would keep things informative, open and accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Napdaw ( talk • contribs) 21:50, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
"In addition, an EF1 tornado associated with a cold front related to Lee touched down in New York." Correct me if I'm wrong, but I actually think that tornado had nothing to do with Lee. Lee was still hovering over the Gulf states when that cold front passed through and created the tornado. Should this tornado get its own section or should it be removed? I think it's kind of notable, since the footage of it was on the national news. 129.3.150.59 ( talk)
Reports are just that reports, and wouldn't it be "accurate" to reflect the actual amount of reports the SPC has received? I spent a good 15 minutes at least going through the SPC report logs for this year, starting with January 1st, and adding up the total "reports" of tornadoes, and editing this article accordingly, only to have it "edited". The total was over 2,100, not including the last 8-10 days of reports. This puts it well ahead of the listed 1,817 reports that this article reflects. Accuracy should be tantamount here. And "reports" means "tornadoes reported", not "only those considered to be 'reporting' different tornadoes". 76.1.1.13 ( talk) 15:50, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
I have calculated new totals based on this map from the SPC for January-July and the monthly charts on this site for August-December and have arrived at the following:
EFU | EF0 | EF1 | EF2 | EF3 | EF4 | EF5 | Total |
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0 | 788 | 635 | 198 | 61 | 17 | 6 | 1705 |
Should this be the new total for the chart under the United States yearly total? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TornadoLGS ( talk • contribs) 05:28, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
There are several tornadoes missing from May 22 and May 24-30. There are also some missing from these days in June: 1, 10-12, 14, 17-20, 26-27, and 29. I would like to ask everyone to help in adding them. Details are on NCDC. United States Man ( talk) 01:00, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
It would appear that the SPC has revised the U.S. death toll down to 550. From what I can tell it has to do with deaths not directly attributable to tornadoes. This appears to have moved 2011 down to the 4th deadliest from a tie for 2nd. TornadoLGS ( talk) 18:09, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
Should a link to the List of tornadoes in the April 25–28, 2011 tornado outbreak be included in the "Events" section along side the links to the monthly list? The list accounts for nearly half of April's tornado which aren't included in the monthly list and contains more tornadoes than any of the other monthly lists. TornadoLGS ( talk) 14:00, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
According to the SPC there were 1692 recorded tornadoes in the U.S. but we list 1704. My question is, where to the extra 12 tornadoes come from? Were there some that, for some reason, the SPC didn't count, or were some events later consolidated or determined to have been non-tornadic? TornadoLGS ( talk) 03:08, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
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There were six rated EF5 on three different days-
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I posted a comment a while ago suggesting that the 2011 St. Louis tornado should be merged with the Tornado outbreak sequence of April 19–24, 2011. My comments there, so far, have not gotten any feedback. I suspect that few or possibly none of the active members of the severe weather project are currently watching that page. TornadoLGS ( talk) 22:04, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
It appears most sources are highly out of date, and as a result this page's estimation is extremely off base. A simple summation of given estimates for the events that have estimates gave a grand total of $26.537 Billion in 2011 USD. All one needs to do is look at 2011 Super Outbreak and Tornado outbreak sequence of May 21–26, 2011 to know that ~$10 Billion is an impossible approximation of the damage estimates, as these two events alone total up to ~$19.2 Billion USD. As such, I've adjusted the damage estimate to match the total that can be concluded from the articles here on Wikipedia. If anyone has any problems with this, please let me know. -- AVeryWiseWolfy ( talk) 04:12, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
@ TornadoLGS, TropicalAnalystwx13, and ChessEric: In going through and updating the tables with NCDC/NCEI data, I found two reports for EF0 tornadoes in Pecos County, Texas that had been missed over the last 11 years. So now, the totals for April and 2011 have gone up by two EF0s to 773 and 1705, respectively. I know the former numbers (771 and 1703) are on different pages, so I'd like to ask for help in tracking down and changing these to the new correct totals. United States Man ( talk) 04:21, 21 April 2022 (UTC)