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When I saw that Tom Brinkman was the featured article, I thought "how timely." It was Mr. Brinkman who had just filed suit against Miami University in Oxford Ohio for providing benefits to employees who now don't qualify as a family under Ohio's recently passed "Marriage Amendment". He filed just days before the article was featured. It's now apparent that the timing of the featured article with his lawsuit was purely coincidental - although now it seems a significant development in his career.
So Wikipedia is now merely a blog for cranks to spin their hatred in? HELLO ... Is there no one awake at the controls?
This was the best article that wikipedia could drum up for the main page, some mid level Ohio politician? Dewine or Hackett would have made for much better subjects. How the hell did this happen? This isn't very informative or exceptionally well written.
YOU SHOULD FEEL SORRY FOR WHOEVER WROTE THIS...If this article, representing a couple whole days of work, was not featured then no one would have ever read it. Lotsofissues 08:27, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
I wrote this article. I'm really surprised to read the criticism here. When it was a FAC (
Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Tom Brinkman) several comments along the lines of "great work" were posted. Some users have the mistaken idea that to be featured means the person must be "important", a criticism that I first encountered when my article on
Julia Stiles was featured on the main page. The trouble is, many indisputably important people are such large topics it is hard to get people to do them justice or they are mired in disputes, e.g. various American presidents. Tom Brinkman is a member of the Ohio legislature. That in itself is not worthy of an article? I put a good deal of work into this article and I am hurt by the criticism I constantly encounter here in Wikipedia. Nobody seems to do anything but complain.
As for the substance, there seems to be misunderstandings about NPOV. Yes, there are some sharply negative comments. But they are all sourced and attributed. Is there a fifty-fifty balance between positive and negative quotations? No, because Brinkman has many opponents and in reviewing the literature, I simply didn't see much praise for him. Even when there is, e.g. the Enquirer endorsement, it is usually coupled with negative comments. If I removed all these comments it might satisfy someone's ideas of NPOV but it would be another "grey goo" article devoid of all life and color. As for "excessive detail" can someone point to an example? It's a thorough article about a lesser known gentleman. It's not even a long article.
Finally, someone commented on
Paul Hackett and
Mike DeWine (or perhaps
Pat DeWine) being more worthy to be featured. I wrote a long article on Hackett as well. Someone want to nominate it as a FAC? I would note Brinkman has accomplished far more in politics than Hackett, who before his congressional bid, was a city councilman for two or three years. But that in no way debars him from featured status.
PedanticallySpeaking
16:09, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
QUITTNER 142.150.49.166 19:10, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Shouldn't a biographical article, particularly one worthy of being a Featured Article, tell when and where the subject was born?
TJSwoboda 01:02, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
This is a terrible featured article. Definitely not NPOV.
This article seems to be nothing more than a hatefest for this man simply because of his conservative views.
I believe Ron Paul, rather, is called "Dr No" because he votes against anything that the constitution doesn't allow. Compare the following:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ron+paul+%22dr+no%22 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=tom+brinkman+%22dr+no%22
142,000 hits vs. 198
i like this article. this article deserves to be published. -- Zondor 09:29, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
I think that some "minor subjects" should occasionally feature on the Wikipedia front page - one of the pleasures of Wikipedia is serendipity.
Can I make a Brinkmanship pun?
Jackiespeel 18:18, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
This article is drawing constant vandalism today as it is featured on the main page. Should we protect it, just for a day or two? PedanticallySpeaking 20:09, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
First, thank you to Pedantically Speaking for a well-researched and generally well-written article. It's a shame that people feel the ned to attack and tear down rather than offering praise and constructive criticsm. That said, let me offer what I hope is constructive feedback:
TMS63112 22:06, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Once again Wikipedia presents an article on some obsure American Republican politician and deems it worthy of being a featured article of the day. I have to ask, of all the subjects covered by Wikipedia and of all the knowledge available on Earth, why is this subject a featured article??? As an encyclopedia, the Wikipedia project is in danger of being little more than a collection of trivia if this trend keeps up.
I really liked this article. It was very well-written, etc. Anyone who objects to it as a featured article (because, say, there's not much about HIM as opposed to his career)... well, that's what we have WP:FAC for. I think it deserves the featured-ness, and my congratulations to the authors. Matt Yeager 23:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
I've read enough resumes, articles and bios to notice the difference. This is NOT an article, it's whistle-stop hoopla for another barnyard politico. Much more politically significant is the "article" on Gwen Steffani. 86 the Brinkman blurb, just like the pResident would an unembedded war reporter. -- Steve meiers 02:23, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Develop it into a better piece then - and who is Gwen Steffani? (From a quick Google I think you mean Stefani.)
How else are those of us who do not live in a given country to learn about political figures below the Cabinet level?
Occasionally there should be "minor entry articles" on the front page (until Wikipedia decides to have a major and a minor article there - which would probably involve more work than could be justified).
Jackiespeel 19:33, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
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needs inline citations -- plange 20:25, 24 September 2006 (UTC) |
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