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To-do list for Toledo, Ohio: Include more 20th century history |
Anyone care to investigate whether the image in this article from ohiobiz.com is legit permission? -- user:zanimum
The new history section needs some major work done to it. I put in it only what was in the article before the WikiProject Cities transformation. -- SwissCelt 10:39, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
The article says the city was founded in 1794, ten years after the Battle of Fallen Timbers, but that battle was itself in 1794 (according to its own article). Which is right? Rojomoke 16:19, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
The date of the battle was August 20, 1794 and the battle site is between Maumee and Waterville. Toledo was incorporated on January 7, 1837 with the merger of two earlier villages- Port Lawrence and Vistula. Musicwriter ( talk)!~ —Preceding undated comment added 03:41, 18 March 2009 (UTC).
Question: There is a source that says the city was incorporated in 1836. I've not verified where that site received its info but pointing it out for further digging. I've always heard 1837 so the year off is strange. -- CharlieGrammar ( talk) 15:43, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
First at all the city was founded by the first Spaniard. In fact Toledo was the Spain Capital when this city was founded in this honour. —Preceding
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What about Crime? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.67.245.192 ( talk) 07:10, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
SwissCelt the wording about the most populous Toledo in the world is misleading. At first I thought you were implying that Toledo was the most populous city in the world, and was ready to revert it. -- UltraSkuzzi 12:54, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
If the name of this institution is wrong, the article to which this links should be moved to the correct name. Editing the wiki only results in a broken (red) wiki. -- SwissCelt 23:43, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
It was not "bad surveying" that led to the dispute that led to MI-OH "war". It had to do with the history of the instructions about where the state line should be. I'll fix it when I can.
Jeeb 22:05, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
There are three topics in the History section--founding, Toledo War, and today's riot. To suggest these are remotely on par is, frankly, bizarre. Either the riot should be in a separate section for "Recent events" or some such, or it shouldn't be discussed at all. Chick Bowen 04:31, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
P.S.: The Wikipedian who posted this section might consider adding information to Wikinews instead of Wikipedia at this early hour. -- SwissCelt 04:44, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
The website of WTOL television carries an item about the Wikipedia article about Toledo: http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=4664465. Thanks to those of you who've worked on the article, someone at the station found it informative and worth mentioning. JamesMLane t c 07:58, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
It is unclear what portion of the text is being attributed to the federal writers' project. Is the first paragraph of the history section directly quoted from that project? This paragraph ends with a quote mark with no matching start quote mark. I'd like to make some minor changes to the paragraph, but not if it's a direct quote. Norman314 03:18, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Maybe someone can start an article on it. I don't know much about Jeep or Toledo. but if a case makes it all the way to the Supreme Court it's got to be somewhat important
I'm ready to delete this section unless someone can give a compelling reason for including it in this main article about Toledo. Just a few months later, it seems this event has no lasting effect upon the city, and thus does not have any notable historical perspective. -- SwissCelt 18:48, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
This part of the article needs to have the data contained within in put in a table or deleted as the current text sounds a bit like a train train timeable rather than an encyclopedic piece relevent to the article. Although addition of historical evidence would make it a worthwhile part of the article The addition of an explanation about other transportation facilities in the area. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rvwedd ( talk • contribs) 09:07, 9 December 2006 (UTC).
Does the city of Toledo separate the "Lost Peninsula" that is politically part of Monroe County, Michigan from the rest of Monroe County--i.e., to get from the Lost Peninsula to any other part of Monroe County, you must travel through Lucas County, Ohio to do so. Or is the part of Ohio that separates the Lost Peninsula from the rest of Monroe County part of the City of Oregon, Ohio or an unincorporated part of Lucas County? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.86.240.151 ( talk) 14:27, 17 January 2007 (UTC).
I'd be curious as to if others believe Ted Kurt or Jeff Kurt are "notable" residents of Toledo or the area. They were recently added. One is claimed to be a "famed health care lawyer;" both are Kentucky colonels, as claimed. Any feedback? .
"The coldest temperature ever recorded was -16°F (-27°C), on January 21, 1985." But, if you look on the chart, it shows -20°F as a record low in January. Kaw in stl 15:50, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
I recently reverted edits done by the ip address 12.9.181.193. The reason for doing so was the fact that I did not feel that the editor was editing with a neutral point of view, also, none of the content added was sourced. Please feel free to re-add the information in a NPOV, sourced condition. Any questions, please contact my talk page. -- w p k t sfs 22:05, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
I am impressed with the organization of Toledo, navigational pages, etc. I haven't read the material but the structure deserves top billing! Why isn't everyone copying you guys? Student7 00:19, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Just a question in general. I agree that Ottawa Hills = Toledo. Whereas, for instance, I did not agree that Bowling Green = Toledo (and hence removed Scott Hamilton). The list of notable residents is overlong anyway. But on the question of Cruise . . . was he really a resident or a visitor? I couldn't find a reference in The Blade, though I looked. Are there published standards for residency on Wikipedia? Into The Fray T/ C 15:34, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
(unindenting) Well, I don't think we should list metro area residents here (such could be put on a metro area page), but you all seem to have consensus otherwise :-) I've retitled the list to make it more accurate. Nyttend 02:24, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
The Village of Ottawa Hills has its own mayor, its own police and fire departments, but no US Post Office. Residents there bear the address 'Toledo, Ohio 43606'. In the early days of Adams Township there were two unincorporated villages there; Richards, which was on Richards Road at the railroad crossing (then an interurban line). A 1908 survey map shows a post office at that locus. The other village was named Joy and was farther west on Brittany Road. Today, an early cemetery that bears the name of Joy can be seen behind St. Michaels In The Hills Episcopal Church.
It's interesting to note that the stream that flows through Ottawa Hills is called the Ottawa River but farther upstream, in the city of Sylvania, it is called Tenmile Creek. [1] Musicwriter ( talk) 18:01, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
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The final line of the Toledo summary seems to be added soley for the benefit of singer/songwriter Danny Michel. As a Toledo native, I can name several recordings that are about or named after Toledo by more prominant figures (John Denver, Elvis Costello, George Carlin), but fail to see how any of them are important enough to be mentioned in the initial introduction. Perhaps a separate section of pop cultural Toledo references is needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.229.199.148 ( talk) 03:23, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
The sentences about the city's Wifi plan probably need updating. Most municipal "free" wi-fi plans around the United States have proven to be non-viable. This article [2] in July 2007, indicates the Mayor has reversed course. Note 3 link points to a page on a city web server that no longer exists. Perhaps someone from Toledo who sees more of the locally available information can provide an update? StreamingRadioGuide 21:56, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Please do not return this information to the article without a citation.-- BirgitteSB 14:41, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
I wanted to join a wikiproject for toledo being a college student from the area and realized there is none, so I proposed one here. All interested are encouraged to add their name to the list. Hopefully we can get this going soon!!!
I also created a userbox for toledo residents. It's my first attempt at a Userbox but it looks like it works...
This user lives in or hails from Toledo. |
-- Bhockey10 ( talk) 00:58, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
I've heard this from friends, and from this cite, but I cannot find a reliable source for this. Is there a real source for this or is it just a rumor? Mwv2 ( talk) 23:28, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
It appears this statement has been removed, so was it just a rumor? Mwv2 ( talk) 14:28, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Out of all of the external links, Toledo.com is a for profit company. It does not make sense listing them, if you are not going to list other companies. Also, the roller derby was removed because unlike the other sports it is a specific one. There are many other smaller sport leagues and they should be included if that is included. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Newtman2100 ( talk • contribs) 15:50, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Again removed roller derby because it only lists one team, not a league or the sport in the city in general. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.14.10.35 ( talk) 16:02, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Recently a new university can be now included to the list. Herzing U. has a one-building campus located at N. Reynolds Road and Hill Avenue. Herzing presently has eight campusues in the U.S. and four in Canada. Musicwriter ( talk) 03:47, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
The two refs for population were either unreadable or broken. I put in the ref for the 2007 revised figure, and updated the density. The revised figure does not include a number for the metro area, so I'm not sure if the number given in the infobox is 2000, 2007, or 2007 revised. I left it alone. Rees11 ( talk) 03:26, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, maybe this will put an end to the population figure edit wars. Rees11 ( talk) 11:54, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Clearly the "Notable residents" section is in danger of growing out of hand. I have removed everyone who doesn't have a Wikipedia article with at least a half dozen references, or isn't an Olympic or Hall of Fame athlete. Rees11 ( talk) 02:22, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Uh, I'm kinda sure Detroit's article must mention the auto companies at some point. Also, having a major company founded in a smaller city like Toledo is more significant to its subject than having a major company founded in a large city. That would be like doing an article on LA without mentioning the film business. The Person Who Is Strange 03:42, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
The Detroit article does mention the auto industry in the intro but does not name the companies. LA mentions the film industry but does not name the companies. And now Toledo mentions the auto industry but does not name the companies. I think moving the text to "Economy" was the right thing to do. Rees11 ( talk) 12:14, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Adams Township seems a bit out of place. Is it notable enough to have its own heading? Toledo War seems notable enough but I'm from Michigan so I might be biased. I do think the article would benefit from a lot more 20th century history and I urge you to write up whatever you find. Rees11 ( talk) 12:45, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Ive heard that Toledo is famous for its architecture and had a very distinctive style in the early 1900s. The old west end article mentions it is the largest grouping of Victorian homes east of the Mississippi. The zoo has the large amphitheater, there's the famous hotels, the courthouse, the main library, and the warehouse district among others. I'd love to have a section on architecture like the Cleveland article has (also where I got format for the "culture" section) not only listing nice places but also what made the toledo style its own. However this is not at all my area of knowledge. -jsinger123 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jsinger123 ( talk • contribs) 07:46, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
I think it would be good to include something on the Valentine Theater, as well as Art-o-Matic 419 and other events that showcase local artists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshmurnen ( talk • contribs) 15:25, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
This article is in dire need of citations to meet wikipedia standards. I have placed "citation needed" tags next to various pieces of information in the article that require a citation. I have also placed tags at the top of the "Economy" section and the "References in popular culture" section. These sections MUST be cited and the "citation needed" tags must have citations as well. On July 10th, I will remove all unsourced material that has a tag next to it, and will removed unsourced and non-article linked information in the "Economy" "and "popular culture" sections. Thank you for your understanding. Texas141 ( talk) 18:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
There is a continuing problem with Vandalism under the "Reference to popular culture" section. Note: continuing to replace deleted, un-cited information constitues as vandalism under Wikipedia Standards. Please do not continue to replace information that has been deleted unless varifiable sources are provided when editing information into the section. Texas141 ( talk) 08:53, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
I had included him under the notable residents section but it was soon removed. I know from a Stranahan mansion tour at Wildwood Metropark that he won over 200 golf championships and over 100 weightlifting contests, took private lessons from Byrom Nelson on the front lawn starting at age 17 (who he later beat in the PGA), was named most eligible bachelor of the year in 1948, was on the Ed Sullivan show where he deadlifted 500 lbs. live, and was still running marathons in his 80s. I'm having a hard time finding sources for this over the internet, but as the metroparks guide said "he's one of the best athletes that Toledo ever produced," I think it is worth drawing light to this person who is starting to be forgotten. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jsinger123 ( talk • contribs) 03:02, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
This article states the partnership between the cities of Toledo, OH and Toledo, Spain was the first such arrangement in history. This does not appear to be true, as "The first recorded modern twinning agreement was between Keighley, West Yorkshire and Poix-du-Nord, Nord, France in 1920 following the end of World War I." This is according to the wikipedia article on Sister Cities. Can this be clarified? Perhaps stating that it was the first North American city to engage in the sister city type program.
Sstoy ( talk) 16:48, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
There was an arrangement between Keighly and Suresnes-Puteaux starting in 1905. This is in War and World Government by Frank Crane, published in 1915. Rees11 ( talk) 02:25, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Reference is made to Major Stickney, who numbered his sons andnamed his saughters after states. It's not clear how many sons he had. There were One and Two, but "Gentleman's magazine, Volume 2 By William Evans Burton" says that the infant was named Five. On the other hand, http://www.geni.com/people/Benjamin-Franklin-Stickney/6000000002970241091 says there were five children in total - 2529. One, b. Aug. 31, 1803; m. Matilda J. Bassell. 2530. Louisa, b. -, 1805; d. aged 3 years, in Bow, N. H. 2531. Mary, b. May 23, 1808; m. M. D. Whitney; S. C. Green. 2532. Two, b. Apr. 16, 1810; m. Lovina Cone 2533. Indiana, b. Jan. 16, 1817; m. Platt Card. And you will notice that of the three girls, only Indiana was named for a state. Mary was named for her mother, nee Mary Stark, who was commonly called Molly. However, five was a small family in that era, and it's quite possible that there were more children except for the fact that there seems to be no record of Three, Four, or Five Stickney, and plentiful documentation of these five. The 1850 census for Lucas County doesn't show Three, Four or Five; the 1840 census exists but isn't online yet. Perhaps it would be better to eliminate the part about naming his daughters after states, and simply mention that Two had an older brother One? 141.158.187.62 ( talk) 06:57, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
So, yeah, the demographics from 2000 where way off, Toledo was no where near half black, that probably means something's wrong with the 2010 census results as well. I would do something, but I don't know how to link to the census to prove it so, I know it would just be reverted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.64.104.4 ( talk) 22:25, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Why was this removed from the first paragraph? "originally incorporated as part of Monroe County, Michigan Territory, ... when it was incorporated in Ohio." You could argue that's too much detail, but it does leave us wondering why the city was re-founded. Maybe move this to the history section? Kendall-K1 ( talk) 12:08, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Since there has been no explanation either here or in the edit history I have restored this. Kendall-K1 ( talk) 21:45, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I'm going through all the US Cities (as per List of United States cities by population) in an effort to provide some uniformity in structure. Anyone have an issue with me restructuring this article as per Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline. I won't be changing any content, merely the order. Occasionally, I will also move a picture just to clean up spacing issues. I've already gone through the top 20 or so on the above list, if you'd like to see how they turned out. Thoughts? Onel5969 ( talk) 19:52, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Now that we have a section for the water supply, we might consider conforming to Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline. That would suggest a section for Infrastructure, with subsections for Transportation and Utilities. I haven't done this because it would mean pushing each of the Transportation sections down a level. Anyone have strong feelings about this? Kendall-K1 ( talk) 12:17, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
A series of edits by 108.254.160.23 were recently reverted. While I agree the editor should have given us edit summaries, I think these edits were an improvement and should be restored. The only content removed was the statement that the proportion of white residents has declined since 1970. This is in a paragraph that makes no other mention of demographic shifts over time. Kendall-K1 ( talk) 11:35, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
The first paragraph of the history notes that fur trading posts were established, but does not mention the tribes with whom the French were trading. This seems odd. Similarly it does not discuss who was involved in the Northwest Indian War or the War of 1812. I think there should be some mention of indigenous history, as this was an Odawa village before it was settled by the French (who traded with them), or the British colonists, or the Americans. The parties to war should also be identified. Parkwells ( talk) 03:17, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
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The caption beneath the sketch of Peter Navarre (1785-1874) which credits him as "Hero of the Battle of Lake Erie" is a mistake. Peter Navarre was not a sailor in the U.S. Navy, he was a solitary frontiersman, who could negotiate with native Indian tribes using his language skills. The battle was fought a few miles west of South Bass Island and the American officer in command was Commodore Oliver Hazzard Perry (1785-1819), who is regarded as the hero of the above battle.
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Are there references - at least one - that confirm "Toledodor" as describing residents of the city? David notMD ( talk) 04:24, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
Just a quick note. Seems redundant to have the History:21st Century section be dominated by a 5 paragraph essay on the 2014 Toledo Water "Crisis" when a perfectly sufficient synopsis of those events can be found in a single paragraph in the Infrastructure:Utilities section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.211.168.158 ( talk) 21:10, 20 July 2023 (UTC)