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Okay. A few things. First, the ridiculous motion above about 'deletion'. Hmmm, apparently the guy is unimportant, except for the fact that he started and administers a web page which happens to recieve tens of thousands of hits per month, and is by all accounts a serious force in Tory grass-roots politics. Now, whether you like the Tories or not should have nothing to do with what ends up on a specific page. I'll go out on a long limb here and say that the deletion motion was prompted by a very small group (i.e. one or two) who simply wanted to see his profile go because they have a gigundo problem with ConservativeHome. If you do not believe me, please, by all means, do some research on the people who were pushing for the deletion.
In any case, now for the main reason for me writing this. I happened to come home from work today and thought it would be lots o' fun to go through the 'citations' on Montgomerie's WP page. And, guess what? Mostly crap! Many of them were misleading, and meant quite obviously as smears, and some of the 'cited' writing in this article had nothing to do with the citations! Imagine that! Wow! So I did some major re-orging. And deleted a dead link citation. Cheerio.
ps..no, i neither know him nor have a hat in the ring concerning his politics. I'm an American in New York, as it happens. Good God. longlivefolkmusic 03:26, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
And so it goes. Guess I deserved the above witty riposte, with my tone and all. Good opportunity to throw out some profound and biting anti-Americanism. Of course there was no serious reason for me to bring up where I live, but the point was that I am interested in at least an attempt, an attempt, at an objective article, and that I have no guiding interest in slanting it in any particular direction. After all, accusations of 'friends' or 'employeess' or what-not abound in WikiP. And apparently mocking a contributor is not a 'personal attack'. Instead it is just...what?
Yes, my tone was not serious, but the point was. Please read citation #10 from the old Tim Montgomerie entry (before my changes) and tell me exactly how it supports the assertion that TM is criticising DC's courting of 'middle class swing voters'. Last time I checked — before I dawned me cowboy hat and saved the world — citation #10's link is to a bbc article on Hague&co's trip to Washington. Old citation #9 at least has TM mentioning 'Morrison' voters, but it is a bizarre misrep to call that a TM attack on DC's (apparently diabolical) plan to win 'swing voters'.
Expanding articles through worthy citations is great. Throwing in citations that have little or no relevance to what you're writing in an article subject, not so great.
Better yet, compare the LabourHome entry with the ConservativeHome entry. The latter article suffers from the same crap as TM's, with many of the same g*dd*mn citations. What's the word? Ah yes. sheesh. longlivefolkmusic 05:23, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
This sentence needs rephrasing: "Montgomerie is also a presenter on the internet television channel 18 Doughty Street and hosts its 'Campaign HQ' program, which develops the channel's internet political advertisements after allowing viewers to vote on a choice of (usually) three different proposals." Does it mean that they allow voters to vote on proposals and then work the proposals into advertisements, in which case it should probably say something like "Montgomerie is also a presenter on the internet television channel 18 Doughty Street and hosts its 'Campaign HQ' program, which allows viewers to vote on (usually) three different proposals (for whatever) and develops the winner into (whatever exactly they do, which isn't entirely clear)". Or are the voting and the advertising unconnected? And what exactly is an "internet political advertisement"? Do you mean banner ad, or video which happens to be hosted online? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.172.19.20 ( talk) 14:35, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Tried sorting out the chronology Pistachiones ( talk) 22:17, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
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