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Did you know... that the Thrangu Monastery, Canada, the first traditional Tibetan Buddhist monastery in Canada, with a 4 metre golden Buddha, was officially opened in
Richmond, British Columbia, on 25 July 2010?
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Thrangu Monastery (Richmond, British Columbia) → Thrangu Monastery (Richmond) – I had previously moved this article to
Thrangu Monastery (Richmond), but it was moved back with an edit summary stating that the disambiguator should match the title of the
Richmond, British Columbia article. There are no policies or guidelines that require this kind of correlation, but we do have a
policy on precision in disambiguation which states that we should "use only as much additional detail as necessary" when creating disambiguators and we have a
policy on conciseness in article titles stating that article titles should be "no longer than necessary to identify the article's subject and distinguish it from other subjects." It is also very common for articles about places of worship to include in their titles only the city name when a disambiguator is required; see, for example,
Christian Science Society (Nanaimo). Because this is the only Thrangu Monastery in any Richmond, and "Thrangu Monastery (Richmond)" is a considerably shorter title than "Thrangu Monastery (Richmond, British Columbia", I recommend that the shorter title be adopted.
Neelix (
talk)
18:36, 12 June 2013 (UTC)reply
Support. Unless there is some other Richmond with a Thrangu Monastery, the British Columbia in the disambiguator is unnecessary disambiguation. The title of the article about Richmond is not relevant here - we have no policy, guideline or even convention that says disambiguators referring to WP topics should match the titles of those topics. --
B2
C22:00, 12 June 2013 (UTC)reply
Comment Standard Canadian-article disambiguation per WikiProject Canada-derived guidelines is to use "Canada" if there is no other similar name in Canada, then "province" if there's more than one, then city, region, parent river or range or other demarcator if there is more than one in the same province.
Thrangu Monastery (Canada) is the disambiguation therefore mandated by that guideline.
Skookum1 (
talk)
17:46, 14 June 2013 (UTC)reply
Comment Note that the dab comma-province or comma-country is not used in WPCANADA for buildings or geographic objects, but only for neighbourhoods and the like. "(Canada)" is what is appropriate in this case.
Skookum1 (
talk)
17:52, 14 June 2013 (UTC)reply
I'll have to dig them out tomorrow, it's 2 am here and I've been putting out fires in other places for the last two hours and more....MOSCAN may not be where to look; and dabs are a convention, the comma-province guidelines for communities, for example i.e. vis no-comma-province on unique names, e.g.
Vancouver, is a convention, not a guideline, but increasingly applied across the board; I'll find buildings examples, there are some, and see what I can find on WP:CANADA....a look around the subcats of
Category:Buildings and structures in Canada and
Category:Places of worship in Canada may demonstrate my point well. More tomorrow, it's beddy-bye time.
Skookum1 (
talk)
19:05, 14 June 2013 (UTC)reply
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