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I have reverted to the earlier article name as the title was change by "Epicgenius" with the airy declaration "incorrect use of parentheses". It doesn't matter in the slightest whether this is 'incorrect' in the opinion of someone, any more than that Oprah Winfrey's first name is an incorrect spelling of Orpah. That's how this person is typically referred to in the scholarly literature. The version Thomas(ine) is used in Vaughan's 1978 article "The Sad Case of Thomas(ine) Hall", and is adopted by Kathleen Brown, Kathryn Wichelns, Catherine Clinton, Mary Beth Norton and others who have discussed the case. The variant "Thomas/ine" is used by some writers, but is less common. Paul B ( talk) 12:30, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Considering that pronoun-switching is confusing for the article, I decided to use Hall's last name whenever possible; and switch to using the singular "they" when it is not. (10:02 PM, 6/14/2016) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.92.193.17 ( talk) 02:02, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus. User:Ceyockey ( talk to me) 23:46, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Thomas(ine) Hall →
Thomasine Hall – It is not clear that the subject of the article was ever actually called "Thomas Hall" but was certainly called "Thomasine Hall". The current kludge makes sense and is better (per
WP:SLASH) than "
Thomas/ine Hall" but if nothing else, since there is ambiguity about the name "Thomas", I propose that the simple "
Thomasine Hall" maps more to reality and is sufficient without resorting to a fabricated name like "Thomas(ine)" that we know the subject never used. ―
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Lulu Press, Inc. is a self-publishing company. The unreliable source cites a primary source I couldn't find a copy of, but which – assuming that the book content is not completely made up – should be available somewhere somehow. Tagging instead of removing for now. ~ ToBeFree ( talk) 21:53, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
See Special:Diff/1006125177. I just spent the past couple hours checking out "from the library" and scouring [ Taylor, Dale (1997). The Writer's Guide to Everyday Life in Colonial America. Cincinnati, OH: Writer's Digest. ] and while it's a nice read and rather informative, none of the sentences that use it as a source in the main article are anywhere in the book. I got suspicious when it made the following outlandish claim, and the citation failed to list any page number:
Taylor states that, in the early modern period, medical theorists and scientists considered that women were not a separate sex but "a flawed variant of men". They believed that male organs were tucked inside of women because they did not have enough heat to develop external genitalia. They believed that strenuous physical activity or even "mannish behavior" could cause testicles to exit from inside the vagina.
I went in to add a page number, and found absolutely nothing about this in the book itself. The various quoted text phrases that were in the article appear nowhere in the book. Even Google lists ONLY this wikipedia page for the "flawed variant of men" quote. I swear this must be an elaborate troll.
I'm throwing on failed verification tags for some of the lesser stuff, and outright removing the solid paragraph of clear misinformation that cites this source. ---- Tustin2121 talk 05:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
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