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Decap the 'of' to eliminate a redir. TSoP originally was a Star Trek episode; as most people are probably looking for the F. Scott Fitzgerald novel rather than the TV show, I moved TSoP to TSoP (Star Trek episode); unfortunately, the redir left behind prevented me from moving TSoP (novel) to TSoP -- if an admin would be kind enough to delete the redir and rename the page, that would fix it. jdb ❋ 07:28, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Can someone confirm the per-copy price? Was it $ 175. or merely
$ 1.75 per copy? Thank you. —Preceding
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This article relies almost entirely on one source. Can we get some more sources here? Thomas1617 ( talk) 04:39, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Under This Side of Paradise#Characters the article states:
Amory Blaine—the protagonist of the book, is clearly based on Fitzgerald. ... This character is based on Hobey Baker, who went to Princeton, and whose middle name is Amory.
So, which is it? The Google Books reference cited states that Fitzgerald identified "Allenby, the football captain" with Blaine in his personal copy of the book. It therefore appears to be the former, and I will update the article accordingly. (The <ref> was "Francis Scott Fitzgerald, This side of paradise, Cambridge University Press, 1995, p .316.") HairyWombat 20:49, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
"The book's critical success was driven in part by the enthusiasm of reviewers." Well... Duh...
Is there some meaningful difference between "critics" and "reviewers" I'm missing? WilliamSommerwerck ( talk) 19:06, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
On September 4, 1919, Fitzgerald gave the manuscript to his friend Shane Leslie to deliver to Maxwell Perkins...
What is the correct spelling? This article keeps it consistent, but outside of Wikipedia I see Egoist more often. What is going on? — Preceding unsigned comment added by HelpMeChoose55 ( talk • contribs) 17:08, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
I disagree with the paragraph, "With his debut novel, Fitzgerald became the first writer to turn the national spotlight upon the so-called Jazz Age generation. In contrast to the older Lost Generation to which Fitzgerald and Ernest Hemingway belonged, the Jazz Age generation were those younger Americans who had been adolescents during World War I and were largely untouched by the conflict's psychological and material horrors. Fitzgerald's novel riveted the nation's attention upon the leisure activities of their sons and daughters and sparked a societal debate over the younger generation's perceived immorality." The main character, Amory was in the war and saw action, so clearly he is part of the Lost Generation. Given that fact but that the author did not even touch on the "conflict's psychological and material horrors" is the main glaring flaw in the novel in my opinion. I can understand it given FSF was not shipped overseas, and didn't see combat.
Furthermore, the Wikipedia article on The Jazz Age states, "The term jazz age was in popular usage prior to 1920. In 1922, American writer F. Scott Fitzgerald further popularized the term with the publication of his short story collection Tales of the Jazz Age." This novel was published in 1920.
I also disagree with assertions in the opening paragraph, "The book examines the lives and morality of carefree American youth at the dawn of the Jazz Age. ... The novel explores the theme of love warped by greed and status seeking," The novel is about Amory Blaine trying to find himself which is an appropriate theme for the Lost Generation. Family, fame, fortune, religion and love have all failed him. He has only himself left. He decides he wants to be needed if not loved. PerryTrenton ( talk) 20:31, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
"Scarcely had the staider citizens of the republic caught their breaths when the wildest of all generations, the generation which been adolescent during the confusion of the War, brusquely shouldered my contemporaries out of the way and danced into the limelight. This was the generation whose girls dramatized themselves as flappers, the generation that corrupted its elders and eventually overreached itself less through lack of morals than through lack of taste.... That was the peak of the younger generation, for though the Jazz Age continued, it became less and less an affair of youth."
@ Flask:, I hope you are recovering from your illness. Thanks for the response.
I am now convinced by your argument that contemporaries regarded some of the characters around the main character (Amory) as typifying the Jazz Age. But I don't think modern readers (being accustomed to much more profound social change) are likely to be likewise distracted nor should they be. And not that many of the other characters seem to be in that younger generation. Perhaps Isabelle and Eleanor, (can't remember Rosalind's age) but all his college chums were in his generation, and they figure prominently in the novel. And if we define the Jazz Age youth by drinking, smoking and sex does that mean we have to argue Amory's generation weren't doing those things? Must we have such a hard demarcation?
I certainly cannot argue that The Great War influenced the disillusioned outlook of the novel's protagonist because the war is a great incongruous void in Amory's life. In fact in one passage he compares his war experience to a football game, "two pictures together with somewhat the same primitive exaltation—two games he had played." The war was not a game to Frederick Manning or Erich Maria Remarque or Cecil Lewis or even Hemingway because they saw combat action. FSF never saw action. That is why he (stupidly in my opinion) says, "except for leaving its touch of destruction here and there, I do not think the war left any real lasting effect." I would say post-war economic expansion led to the exuberance of the Jazz Age, but that is another argument, economic, social, etc. for another day.
Anyway, I respect your opinions, and I am glad we can have an intelligent conversation here and get away from politics. I don't want to argue. Get well and take care! PerryTrenton ( talk) 00:46, 29 May 2022 (UTC)