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Here is a telling quote attributed to Theodore Beza: It belongs to the church of God to receive blows rather than to inflict them -- but, she is an anvil that has worn out many hammers. --Theodore of Beza 1561 to King Charles IX of France
I contend that this sentence:
needs a citation. Haiduc says that adequate reference can be found in the notes here. That page is in Italian. My Italian is so weak as to be practically non-existent at this point, but Babelfish gives an approximate idea of what the notes say. Still, it doesn't seem that any reliable source is given for that claim, and all such claims should be verifiable, preferably in English (cf. Wikipedia:Verifiability#English-language_sources and WP:RS#Sources_in_languages_other_than_English). Can anyone supply an English language, reliable source on the matter? -- Fl e x ( talk| contribs) 21:25, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
I added a citation and an additional quote from the EOH, though I don't think we can link to it the PDF because of copyright issues. -- Fl e x ( talk| contribs) 00:35, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
This is probably one of the older articles on Wikipedia (from 2002). The textual style of this thing seems to be a little odd, as if it was taken from an old source from the early 20th or late 19th century, say an old encyclopedia, etc. Does anyone know anything about this? If it is, it needs to be credited or if it's under copyright, replaced . -- Lendorien 17:41, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
This is a great article, but there's practically no sourcing at all in this thing. An effort should be made to do so. -- Lendorien 17:41, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Why no mention of his most famous student? Jacobus Arminius. TuckerResearch ( talk) 00:36, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
This entry appears quite dated, and is written from a strongly Calvinist/Evangelical perspective. Areas for improvement might include:
- Beza's involvement in the defense of the execution of Michael Servetus, including publication of his _De haereticis a civili Magistratu puniendis libellus_ (1554), which sought to disprove the claims in Sebastian Castellio's attack on the execution. Beza was not personally responsible for the execution, and his book represented 'mainstream' thinking at the time, but the whole episode should not simply be ignored, as it is now -- especially because of its prominence in later debates over religious toleration among Christians.
- Beza's role in the French Wars of Religion. Currently, his actions are represented as noble efforts, and compromise by the Calvinist party described as regrettable, which is hardly neutral. Good source: Robert Kingdon, Geneva and the Coming of the Wars of Religion. This is an extremely interesting and important area of Beza's activity.
- Beza's role in the major outbreak of witch-hunting in Geneva in 1570, when a substantial number of witches were burned. Again, such outbreaks were not uncommon, but deserve discussion, since Beza was head of the Geneva church at the time, and presumably (?) approved of the executions.
PQuincy ( talk) 15:14, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Please remove link to Samuel Huber in the Mumpelgart section. It links to a person born 1989. -- A.Kracher ( talk) 17:36, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
if Beza was Calvin's successor, then who was Beza's Ericl ( talk) 15:55, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
i'm surprised there's no mention of this text. it's cited as an important work in the development of dissident theory by the cambridge history of political though (1450-1700) -- chris — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.97.132.246 ( talk) 19:03, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
The statement: "He was the moderator of the general synod which met in April, 1571, at La Rochelle and decided not to abolish church discipline or to acknowledge the civil government as head of the Church, as the Paris minister Jean Morel and the philosopher Pierre Ramus demanded;" is, I believe false. Ramus was asking for congregationalism, and considered Beza aristocratic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.241.26.8 ( talk) 00:52, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Anyone care? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.69.57.38 ( talk) 11:13, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Velezay was NOT France at the time. And (like Clavin) at no point in his life does Beza ever refer to himself has French. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:411:1600:226:8FF:FEDC:FD74 ( talk) 09:04, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
"He then resolved to sever his connections of the time, and went to Geneva, the French city of refuge for Evangelicals (adherents of the Reformation movement)"
Such a dodgy sentence. On so many levels. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:411:1600:226:8FF:FEDC:FD74 ( talk) 18:29, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
End of paragraph one states,"Beza succeeded Calvin as a spiritual leader of the Republic of Geneva, which was originally founded by John Calvin himself." Calvin certainly didn't found Geneva, politically speaking. Nor did he found Geneva's Reformed Church. One could state that Beza remained in Geneva after Calvin died, serving for several decades as its most well-known pastor. 216.145.97.51 ( talk) 15:09, 27 January 2023 (UTC)