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NNPOV and unnecessary interpretation of symbolism. removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.186.185.248 ( talk) 00:15, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
The above paragraph (last one of the article) is quite non NPOV, and arguably spoils key elements of the film plot. Right now I can't see a way to make it better without completely removing it, so please, can anybody lend a hand? -- xDCDx 2 July 2005 11:12 (UTC)
I've rewritten this, see what you think. The Singing Badger 01:44, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
"One of the few dissenters was feminist critic bell hooks who condemned it as racist in her book Outlaw Culture."
On what basis was this criticism made? Franz-kafka 17:51, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
It is well known that Australia is notorious for claiming credit of the great works of New Zealanders (and I say this as a proud Aussie), and this would have to be an egregious example. How can a film set completely in New Zealand featuring a cast made of of Kiwis and Yanks possibly be considered an Australian film? -- Robert Merkel 05:35, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
Citation is needed for the Bill Clinton rumor. Madangry 19:23, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
The Piano tells the story of Scotswoman Ada McGrath (Hunter), who is sold into marriage by her father to frontiersman Alistair Stewart (Neill).
The main Character's name (McGrath) and the accent of her inner voice with which she narrates the film suggest that she is Irish, not Scottish.-- Beetfarm Louie 17:51, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
The article asserts that "Hunter's award was notable for being the only time the award has been presented to an actor who does not speak onscreen." However, I am not sure this is true. Jane Wyman received the Best Actress Oscar for the 1948 film Johnny Belinda, in which she plays a deaf-mute character. I haven't seen the movie myself, however, so I can't confirm that she speaks absolutely no lines in it. Has anybody here seen it?
Johnny Belinda does sound like it has a few parallels with The Piano plot-wise as well. Both films concern the troubled romantic life of a very misunderstood mute woman living in a remote corner of the 19th-century British Empire among a community of primarily Scottish descent. I don't think these parallels merit mention in an article, but they do make for an interesting bit of trivia.
76.90.181.163 ( talk) 18:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)F Smith
i feel it is nessasary to put him on trivia. it was the last film he watched —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.21.61.25 ( talk) 22:20, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Where in New Zealand was the film set and filmed? This should be added. Badagnani ( talk) 04:04, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
http://www.bostonreview.net/BR19.1/stone.html
Excellent in-depth review by Allan Stone of the Boston Review that could be helpful as a resource/link and to counterbalance the apparent bias in the original article. JerushaViolet ( talk) 17:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
The synopsis looks like someone who hated the title character wrote it. Shouldn’t it be more neutrally worded? Compare for example Roger Ebert's reviewand keep in mind that was a review and not a synopsis so it didn’t even have to be neutrally worded. 67.193.146.227 ( talk) 04:55, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
I made a bunch of changes. There were a lot of important omissions, and some pretty strange additions. It was clearly written by someone who hates the protagonist, and a lot of assumptions were made about the characters that could in no way be considered neutral. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.187.46.176 ( talk) 16:17, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
I reread the synopsis and it defiantly seems better now though it still reads more like a review then a synopsis. I did remove that bizarre metaphor about the piano at the end but other then that it is a satisfactory article now I suppose. 67.193.146.227 ( talk) 06:37, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure I was the one who made the unappreciated changes, "pretty strange additions" and "bizarre metaphors" discussed above, afterI found the existing synopsis to be very biased against Ada's character, incomplete, and far too sophomoric for such a fine and complex film. I completely agree that my version was more than a straightforward plot synopsis; but it certainly gave more feeling for the poetic aspects of this film than subsequent 'improvements' as noted above. (And FYI - it's "definitely," not "defiantly".) I was sad to revisit the article and find that the latest synopsis was just as biased as the one preceding mine (she "sadistically" pushes him away?? I don't think so), and containing factual errors (the Maori women aren't talking about Baines when they refer to "Old Dry Balls"). Frankly, it read like a high-school-level essay. And maybe I don't get Wikipedia, and that's the level it strives for. I teach film and have watched "The Piano" more than two dozen times, and written papers on it, so what do I know? —Preceding
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The film ends with the credit "For Edith". Why and who´s Edith? -- 93.135.123.102 ( talk) 11:27, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello, I'd like to ask, is it possible to revert the image in the infobox back to the one with the piano on the beach? I am asking because I am pretty certain, that since the image was changed, the page's thumbnail in facebook, started showing the generic movie icon, instead of the thumbnail of the image I described above. -- Otrivin ( talk) 14:14, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
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I was startled by the article's implication that Ada did not drown, "but then she changes her mind and kicks free to be pulled back into the boat." Surely this is a complete misreading of the whole ending. As the piano drags her down, the rope starts out well wrapped around her calf above her boot. After she's breathed out all her air, which she does in two large breaths out, a drowning victim would be entering a dream state, and what happens next is surely intended as a dream sequence in which the details of her situation under water become vague and implausible like Alice in Wonderland while she fantasizes an idyllic future life. She pictures the rope being wrapped around her boot instead, which she's therefore able to remove (itself illogical, even around the boot the rope would have acted like very strong laces), with the rope and boot falling limply away instead of streaming behind the falling piano. Just as she surfaces the dream music distorts momentarily. As she is pulled into the boat, she thinks dreamily to herself, "What a death. What a chance. What a surprise. My will has chosen life?" Suddenly she's in Nelson, imagining a prosthetic finger, learning to speak, then her cartwheeling youth flashing before her eyes (as if the other hints weren't enough), then imagining Blaine kissing her through a shroud, then Blaine lifting the shroud and kissing her again. Then just as suddenly we are back at the piano, which meanwhile has come to rest, with the rope held taut by a shroud floating above the boot which presumably is her petticoat enshrouding her body. Before the final Hood quote she says "Down there everything is so still and silent."
The Disney-ish suggestion that the final shot of the piano and enshrouded body was merely something she was imagining while leading a perfect life in Nelson trivializes a deeply moving ending. -- Vaughan Pratt ( talk) 04:56, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Ada agreed to marry a stranger, primarily as she had little choice. But she did agree. She was not "sold by her father into marriage to a New Zealand frontiersman named Alisdair Stewart". Royalcourtier ( talk) 00:26, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
British Sign Language is listed here as one the three languages of the film. However in this interview Holly Hunter says the signs were assembled in cooperation with an American Sign Language interpreter. As both languages are quite different, I guess that both cannot be true. Bever ( talk) 15:44, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
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