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On 5 June 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from The New York Times Crossword to The New York Times crossword. The result of the discussion was moved. |
I would interpret the opening sentence such that the first word "The" is not intentionally a part of the title, even though it is called The New York Times. If I am right, then the first word of the article should not be part of the anchor text.
Instead of " The New York Times crossword puzzle is", it should be "The New York Times crossword puzzle is..."
--- Arancaytar - avá artanhé ( reply) 12:21, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
The papers which publish the NYT puzzle is an important part of the thing itself, as is a habitat information for a wild bird! Without this information the article is incorrect in its statement that the NYT carries it (to the implicit exclusion of other newspapers), and less useful - decreasing general relevance to people outside New York with alternative access. This is testified by the high number of previous revisions which added to the list of journals.
I have left out the table of winners previously removed, being in itself trivia, but have reinstated the useful information removed by Dreamguy. 92.12.36.78 ( talk) 11:41, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
I have to agree here with this previous user, (DreamGuy just again deleted the section as trivial). a) It makes the point that the puzzle is important; b) many people live in areas where the NYT is not available and for them these papers are THE primary means of access for the puzzle. I obtained a reference source confirming that the puzzle is widely syndicated. So I'd really argue that where the puzzle is available is an important part of an article discussing it. 71.167.243.54 ( talk) 20:55, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a directory, but it contains many, many directory-like lists, literally tens of thousands of them. We don't slavishly follow guidelines -- we discuss them and decide what to do in a particular case. In this particular case, I know that this information is not available elsewhere and is unlikely to be available elsewhere. I know that people inquire about this information on a regular basis and it would be a good thing to have it available. Therefore, I think this list should be retained and improved. Should it grow too large, we can put it in a separate page. RoyLeban ( talk) 08:22, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
I have the Sunday New York Times here, and it does not contain a crossword. Is this normal? Should the article mention on which days papers carry the crossword? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.181.87.26 ( talk) 00:36, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
did you look in the Magazine? The puzzle appears in the New York Times Magazine on the weekend. 71.167.243.54 ( talk) 15:26, 12 March 2009 (UTC)ethan
I don't know how to do this but I've noticed that searches for: New York Times crosswords New York Times crossword New York Times crossword puzzles the new york times crossword puzzles
all go to a 'cannot find' page--shouldn't they redirect to this article?
Also 'The New York Times Crosswords' takes you to a page for the Nintendo DS game; wouldn't a disambiguation page be better? I suspect most searchers who type that phrase in are looking for this article instead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.193.47.202 ( talk) 14:05, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Article says there were only 4 editors of the NYT xword, but Mel Taub was the interim editor between Maleska and Shortz, from August 1993 until November 20 ( http://www.xwordinfo.com/PS?date=11/20/1993). Mr. Taub may not have been full-time, but he did edit the NYT xword so I feel he should be included in the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Puzmonkey ( talk • contribs) 17:23, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
It seems like the NYT experimented with releasing their crossword on the Nintendo DS back in 2007. More than a decade out, I think that experiment would be better discussed briefly and with context here, rather than as an unsourced standalone page of dubious notability. {{u|
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The crossword is never branded as the "New York Times crossword puzzle", but rather "The New York Times Crossword" or even just "The Crossword" (which should probably be mentioned in parentheses in the lead). It's also super weird that this article's title doesn't have the leading "The", but The New York Times Spelling Bee and The New York Times Connections do. I'm suggesting we move this page to The New York Times Crossword, with a capital C, and with the The, but this feels worth discussing. BanjoZebra ( talk) 15:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
"Crossword" probably shouldn't be capitalized in this title; see ngrams for common name, but definitely support undoing this undiscussed move. Hameltion ( talk | contribs) 18:11, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Comment: I suggest moving this discussion to Talk:The New York Times Games#Italic usage as it concerns the articles that are regrouped there rather than just this one. -- Cl3phact0 ( talk) 17:25, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. Moved to The New York Times crossword ( closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal ( talk) 21:11, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
The New York Times Crossword →
The New York Times crossword puzzle – (restoring longstanding title) Per
WP:AT, Although official ... or trademarked names are often used for article titles, the term or name most typically used in reliable sources is generally preferred
(in other words, the NYT's branding does not matter).
Ngrams strongly support lowercase. Web searches too:
competitors
of the
Times lowercase it almost exclusively. Lowercase also makes linking easier; running text in the encyclopedia should generally not use brand-y capitalization.
Hameltion (
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contribs) 05:57, 5 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.
Safari Scribe
Edits!
Talk! 16:49, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
The New York Times crosswordare actually using
crossword puzzlein full, a rate that's similar at a glance in the above web searches. And I do often find myself piping
[[crossword|crossword puzzle]]
in running text but that page is another discussion.
Hameltion (
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contribs) 20:55, 5 June 2024 (UTC)