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"the highest-rated DotA team in the world, DK," needs a reference. GosuGamers doesn't rate them the highest team, so not sure where this 'fact' is coming from. — Preceding
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The International (Dota 2 competition) → The International (tournament) –- "Tournament" is a far more fitting title than "Dota 2 competition"; the latter detail is already included in the text of this article, removing the necessity of having it in the name, which makes this seem more like a news article than an encyclopedic page. Also, "The International" is already easily-recognizable with Dota 2, leaving the nature of the name an inherent given.
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The Russian article on The International may be a good basis for the tournament bracket
See
The International 2011 section on the Russian Wikipedia. If you're using Chrome it'll translate it for you. The wikicode is mostly useless since it's in Russian, but there are similar tournament bracket templates on the English Wikipedia as well, see
Category:Tournament bracket templates.
There's not too much of a basis to work off of since there aren't any good eSports tournament articles that I know of. I'd base it off something like the
NFL or
NHL season articles, albeit in this case with multiple brackets on one page. I think there's enough text describing each International to not make it appear cluttered. You probably only need the Semifinals/finals for this, cover the rest in prose if you feel the need to include it.
I'd see if you can make the bracket template and "Winnings" table span across the same row to conserve space, e.g. right-align the Winnings table. --
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02:49, 4 March 2014 (UTC)reply
There's way too much information on the Secret Shop- it reads like an advertisement. I'd take pointers from the Merchandise section of the Dota 2 article.
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Invitations? Sponsorships?
As a casual reader of this article:
1. I don't understand how the invited teams get invited (eg. are they internally monitored/observed by Valve?)
2. I don't understand the value people are getting from "buying in", ie. that +$20M of the prize pool is contributed by fans is a pretty huge thing (compare it to a Kickstarter, for example). But the model behind it isn't clear - what are they buying, what does "interactivity" mean? — Preceding
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14.202.37.121: For the first seven TIs, Valve basically invited a small number of teams who they thought were top tier, in addition to holding qualifiers to fill out out the rest. There was no real rhyme or reason to Valve's invites, and it was criticized for not being obvious as to why a certain team received an invite. For the upcoming TI (
TI8) however, Valve introduced the
Dota Pro Circuit, with the top eight teams at the end of the season (ends tomorrow, actually) with the most points securing their invites, which can be seen on a
visible leaderboard.
The TI prize pool is solely funded by an in-game feature known as the
Battle Pass (also known as the Compendium in past TIs). Battle Passes "level up" by doing certain in-game milestones and achievements, and offer special rewards by leveling up, such as keys for loot boxes (called Treasures in Dota 2) and special gamemodes (like the
Battle Royale mode. 25% of all Battle Pass purchases (costs 9.99 USD to own, but you can buy levels too) goes directly into the prizepool, with the other 75% going to Valve. So yes, the 20+ million dollar prize pools of
TI6 and
TI7 were actually 80+ million made from the Battle Pass those year.
I'll try and modernize the article with this information before TI8, as a lot of it is out of date or badly written. If any of this needs further clarification, I'll explain with more detail. ~
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Manusiafaiz: your history sections are an improvement (following a cleanup), but the lead is not in my opinion. We're supposed to keep facts in the lead generalized in order to get the reader interested in reading the full article (or at least a section). Also, the history section is missing TI5 and TI6 info. Just because they have standalone articles doesn't mean we should omit them entirely here. A simple paragraph for them is plenty. If you don't get around to them later, I will. ~
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Dissident93: Thank you, it looks way better and organize now. Basically, the history section tell about changes of every TI to current state. We don't have to include every TI if there's none changes unless it's significant. Not really good for writing decent English Wikipedia style for now, hopefully other expert could help and fill the void. To be simplified, a few points for history section that I could think for now is:
TI1 - Direct invite
TI3 - Crowdfunding
TI4 - Expansion from 16 to 18 teams
TI5 - DDOS attack
TI7 - OpenAI Five play Dota 2
TI8 - Point system
TI9 - First defending champion
Most TI - Cosplay competition, short film contest
In terms of each having their own specific section? I'm against this because it reads more like newspaper headlines and would just continue to bloat every year. Instead they should be grouped by era/common theme, such early years, crowdfunding, expansion to 18 teams, internationally hosted following the Seattle games, etc. ~
Dissident93(
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Well, at first you said "missing TI5 and TI6 info". Now you said bloat every year. Which one, foundation of TI or every TI? So the most important part history would be:
Invitational
Crowdfunding
Expansion to 18 teams
Point system - Direct invite & region qualification
Misc event - Cosplay competition, short film contest, open AI, all-star match
I said they should be grouped by era and common theme. Also TI4 onwards already have articles where their history can go, but TI1-3 don't and instead redirect here, so you just removing all of their content should not be done. ~
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