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Not just two bright stars al stars surrounding the darkness that the sky revolves around —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.108.251.5 ( talk) 07:21, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
What stars do the 2x vent shafts in the Khufu Queen's Chamber align with? Mifren ( talk) 08:11, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't have time or sources to improve this article. But I can say that the usual term for these stars in Egyptology is "the Imperishable Stars". "Indestructibles" is obviously an alternative translation of the same Egyptian term, but not as widely used in scholarship.
Two sources that would be very helpful in fleshing out this article are The Imperishable Stars of the Northern Sky in the Pyramid Texts (1990) by Joseph Bradshaw, and Astronomische Konzepte und Jenseitsvorstellungen in den Pyramidentexten (1997) by Rolf Krauss. I don't have either, and according to Worldcat they're not easy to come by. A. Parrot ( talk) 16:47, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
All the best:
Rich
Farmbrough, 16:14, 8 March 2015 (UTC).
There is an interesting note in Gaston Maspero. History of Egypt, Chaldæa, Syria, Babylonia and Assyria. Vol. unknown. p. unknown. "..texts found and cited by Brugsch show that the Akhimu Soku are the planets[sic] accompanying Ra in the northern sky, while the Akhumu Urdu are his escort in the south. The nomenclature of the stars included in the two classes is furnished by monuments of widely different epochs. ... Akhimu Soku, those who know not destruction, the indestuctibles; and Akhumu Urdu (Urzii), those who know know the immobility of death, the Imperishables." (supported by Isaac Myer (1900). Oldest Books in the World: An Account of the Religion, Wisdom, Philosophy, Ethics, Psychology, Manners, Proverbs, Sayings, Refinement, Etc., of the Ancient Egyptians: as Set Forth and Inscribed Upon, Some of the Oldest Existing Monuments, Papyri, and Other Records of that People... E.W. Dayton. p. 312.
Conversely we have "the imperishables in the north (circumpolar stars) .. and the unwearying ones in the south".James P Conner (2012). Mysterious Lands:Encounters with Ancient Egypt. David O'Connor, Stephen Quirke (editors). Taylor & Francis. p. 24.
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9781135393830.
It is not clear to me that any southern stars would be perpetually visible from Egypt, in fact if the south celestial pole cannot be seen from there, it seems impossible.
All the best:
Rich
Farmbrough, 16:49, 9 March 2015 (UTC).