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This page says he ran the company from 1954 to 1985, but his page says he was MD for 37 years to 1996 (from 1959 ?).
-- Beardo 07:05, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
A company in China, Tralin Pak, also make such materials. www.tralinpak.com I guess there is not much thing that China don't know produce nowadays.
Anyone have any information on recycling Tetra Pak's? I have done a small amount of research and it appears to be possible however despite the large amount of tetra pak products there is only the one recycling plant in Scotland that most local authorities are unwilling to transport to for reuse. Unsigned comment by User:Adeptcook
The article mentions two different founding dates: 1943 and 1951. 1951 is the correct year according to the tetra pak website. 213.142.27.122 08:15, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
What exactly is the Tetra Pak made of? When we drink milk or juice out of a pak, is it touching aluminum foil or not? Aluminum is highly toxic and atoms enter the body like that. So is this healthful or harmful? Don't answer that! Just someone please let us know if the Tetra Pak Tetra Brik first layer touching the liquid is aluminum or plastic or???????????????????????????????????? I went to their website and again, MOST IMPORTANT PIECE OF INFO, AND IT DOESN'T SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Someone please reply having god sake bich
Here is your reply dude!!
Actualy its a six layer packing, in which aluminum layer is wrapped from layer of plastic, so its not at all harmful!!
> "For most people, Tetra Pak is synonymous with carton packages for milk, juice and beverages".
This is marketing, pure and simple. It is not factual. The very same sentence is on the company's web site. In fact, most of the article seems like investor information.
>>>>>Dude, it doesn't say milk packages is synomym with Tetra Pak. *THAT* would be advertising/marketing. It says (what you wrote). THINK about it!
It is marketing - but it is close to the truth. Does anybody else apart from Tetra Pak make those sort of cartons ? I am sure people do say tetra pak to refer to any sort carton that is difficult to open.
-- Beardo 05:17, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Yes, other companies like combi block and international paper make cartons similar to Tetra Pak.
-- It still reads exactly like a marketing brochure to me - I feel it deserves the advert tag; if you agree put it back.
Should this graphic be included on a page in the english Wikipedia? Alvis 06:47, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
What's the meaning or the relevance of the image? M.efimov ( talk) 08:25, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
The Wikipedia Aseptic processing entry discusses materials. One material item not mentioned there is that the inks on the package are electron-beam-cured ink. (At least that what almost all Tetra Pak users were using in the 1990's.) Elecron-beam (E.B. for short) and UV (ultraviolet) are ink curing methods using radical chain polymerization -- initiated respectively by the elecron beam creating a free radical or the ultraviolet light reacting with a photoinitiator chemical to create ultimately a free radical. Then the "vehicle" of the ink rapidly polymerizes and cross-links virtually instantly and completely. This is an alternative to heatset (wherein a solvent evaporates) or air-dry (wherein, over time [typically several days] the oxygen in the air gets absorbed by and reacts with "driers" [catalysts] in the ink and then cures the ink by reaction with vehicle unsaturation [double bonds] -- the way old alkyd or oil-based paints dry. [Lead was a drier in some of those paints.]) Radiation curing has many advantages, which needn't be all covered here, but one is hardness (freedom from scuffing). E.B. has an advantage over UV of no leftover photoinitiator (because E.B. needs no photoinitiator chemicals) to produce an odor -- which is a bad thing for a food product. (The odor of photoinitiator leftover can be smelled in many extreme-high-gloss magazines.)
On a non-material topic, Tetra Pak has another shape not mentioned in the article: Tetra Prism. 199.196.144.11 ( talk) 19:58, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I am a Tetra Pak employee and I just modified a few dates (and removed an improper claim that Tetra Pak had aseptic technology perfected in the 1950's) under the Products section and added some sources to validate the update, referring to the book Tetra Pak : a vision becomes reality : a company history with a difference by Tetra Pak International, 1996. I think the facts involved are not problematic, but if you find it offensive or improper in any way, feel free to roll back my changes or request further sources.
In addition, I would like to ask for your opinion before posting a picture to this entry. I have an image that could show the currently available package families, and want your feedback on possible issues with this picture, as I am not an experienced Wikipedia editor. They are both available under CC-BY-SA 3.0 License - are there any major objections to inserting this into the post?
Wittlock ( talk) 09:17, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi again,
I noticed the addition of an "Ecology" heading under "Criticism", and I would like to say that I don't think this is a proper use of the term Ecology. Am I the only one?
However, this addition made me realize that there is a need for an Environment chapter in the Tetra Pak article - there are some questions around this matter in here and on other channels - and I suggest such a heading is introduced, where we include any factor influencing environmental impact. I tried to add some basic elements as a start.
As I am potentially biased, being a Tetra Pak employee, I just want to be totally transparent that I added this chapter as a private individual, with no specific mandate or mission other than contributing with some cited facts, and I welcome any adjustments, amendments or corrections to it. I hope you don't consider it to be overly positive - if so, feel free to add facts that balances the impression - or even remove the section if you consider it inappropriate. Thanks for you help - I really appreciated the feedback I got from the community when I wanted to share the product portfolio image with you. Wittlock ( talk) 22:07, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Seems weird how there wasn't any mention of Combibloc or Elopak technologies. Added them in Competition section. EpiVictor 15:59, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Mentioned the "Parmalat scandal" as well. - FayssalF - Wiki me up® 23:39, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
I have moved the Parmalat piece to 'The Business' section as it didn't seem quite at home in the Competition section. I have also changed Aluminum back to Aluminium to link in with its Wiki page spelling. I have also added a company infobox. 53.122.196.39 13:01, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
I intend to start a clean-up of the page and my first impression is that there is a lot of information that is not relevant to the topic, among others the passage about how large capacity Greatview Aseptic Packaging has or how big market share Tralin Pak has of the Chinese market. To me it seems to be biased promotional information that belong more on their own Wiki article (which they don't have) than on one about Tetra Pak, and I would like to clean it up. If you have any thoughts about this, please let me know, otherwise I will go ahead with the clean-up. Many thanks. Tartesauxpommes ( talk) 10:16, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I just changed the number of employees from 7 to 6 and added a source; there was no source for 7 and I found one for 6, so it should be ok I hope. I have also made some small structural changes to the page to make it more easily readable. I have made the space between the different sections one line larger to make it easier to read and I have also taken off the sub-categories under Environment and Criticism and pulled the text together so that it becomes one whole section. There were only one or two lines under each sub-category and it looked very scattered and was difficult to follow. I have added a self-reference to the different packages in the Products section that were before in italics. There does not yet exist a Wikipedia page for those, but someone might want to create one some day. I have only made changes to the structure and nothing to the content, everything in the attempt to make the page look nicer and more readable. I hope you all find the changes ok and for the better, and if you don't, please feel free to change them back. I would like to underline that I am currently working for Tetra Pak as an external consultant (not employee) and I care about the company, but I am doing these small edits on a personal initiative and privately. I just want things to look nice and be correct. Again, if you don't agree with my changes, please feel free to change them back. Best regards Tartesauxpommes ( talk) 16:23, 2 November 2011 (UTC) (forgot to log in before making the changes, so the changes will have been made under an IP-number but it is me)
I have changed the faulty statement in the introduction that the company was founded by Ruben Rausing and Erik Åkerlund. As far as I understand, Erik Åkerlund sold his share in Åkerlund & Rausing, the "mother-company" of Tetra Pak, already in 1933 and was thus no longer part of the company except by name. Am I wrong? See Leander, Lars, Tetra Pak. A Vision Becomes Reality. A company history with a difference, Lund: Tetra Pak International 1996 ( ISBN 91-630-4789-6), p. 18 or http://www.tetrapak.com/about_tetra_pak/the_company/history/pages/ourhistory.aspx. Many thanks Tartesauxpommes ( talk) 14:07, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi. This article has been tagged as in need of a cleanup since 2007, but the quality hasn’t really improved in the last 4 years. It is still very poor, in structure as well as in content. As I have been working for Tetra Pak (see below), I have been reluctant to make changes to the article out of concern for being thought of as biased. I would however like to propose a complete make-over to try to achieve a higher overall standard, correct wrong information and add verifiable sources. I will obviously adhere to the standards and culture of Wikipedia and try to remove as little information as possible. Several statements are completely unverified however, and do not belong in an encyclopaedic article. My aim is to enhance the article to the point where the "needs a clean-up"-tag can be removed. Does anyone have any objections/input? Please let me know if this is the case. Many thanks, Tartesauxpommes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tartesauxpommes ( talk • contribs) 10:27, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi there. I have now, after a lot of hard work trying to make a comprehensible and clear structure based on the information that was already in the article, extended and cleaned up the article as discussed below. I know it is not standard procedure to completely replace one text with another. However, in view of the extremely poor state of the current text and the incoherent structure, I found it impossible to just "ameliorate" the existing text. What I have done is to extend the article, add sources, and structure it in a more reader-friendly way. I based the new structure on the Rio Tinto Group article. I found it very clear and comprehensive, and it has been nominated for Wikipedia GA (Good Article), which to me was a good sign.
I have not removed any information with the exception of information that lacked references and were off topic (see below), and all the information in the old article has been transferred to the new one, however in my writing. If you wish to reinsert your own text, please do so. I have not intended to offend anyone and hope it is clear that my only aim has been to improve the article, raise the quality level and increase the coherency of the text. This was the only possible way, and information-wise everyone's contributions are included in the new text. I hope the community will find this acceptable for the reasons stated above.
I have not included the following from the old article into the new text:
All the rest of the "old" content is in the new article, only extended and with the addition of references. I have tried to use third party sources in as high an extent as possible, carefully choosing high quality, reliable sources like Financial Times, New York Times, The Economist, Bloomberg, trade press, museums and government institutions (see the reflist). In some cases however, mostly regarding company history and figures, it has been necessary to consult the Tetra Pak and Tetra Laval websites and published material to get the adequate historic information and figures. This is information that is not normally sensitive and consequently not susceptible to be biased. I have made an effort to keep a completely neutral tone and have tried to present all information as neutrally as possible. The sole purpose has been to improve the standard of the article so that the "clean-up" tag can finally be removed after nearly five years. I have raised the question already a few times on this page. No one has disapproved, and I hope the community will appreciate the work. Please add whatever additional material you feel should be in the article. If you disagree, please write on this page instead of immediately rolling back the changes. Kind regards, Tartesauxpommes ( talk) 14:58, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Hello again. I posted the post below some days ago. I wanted to wait with the posting of the new text, in case someone had objections or something to add. Since I have not heard anything from the community, I will now go ahead and post the new article. I have put in a lot of effort to make it as good, as comprehensive, as illuminating and as readable as possible, maintaining all current information to as high a degree as possible (see below), however adding text, structure and new images that, in my opinion, better illustrate the subject and add more value to the reading experience. I do hope you will all find it an improvement. Kind regards, Tartesauxpommes ( talk) 09:26, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
- During the 90s, Tetra Pak was making the argument of recycling its material into panels of a composite material , called Tektan. This experiment failed (although the production of some ondulated panels in south america was still being explored around 2005), but nonetheless was given a LOT of PR, and helped create Tetra Pak's reputation as a green business. How come it isn't mentioned in this article ?
- Currently, the separation of the paper pulp is rather straightforward and works well - although the paper is not purely recycled, but downcycled into packaging paper rolls.
- The argument now is that the aluminium and plastic fraction of the packaging is being burnt in cement factories, in what is legally understood as 'recycling', like many composite materials are... this should at least be mentioned.
- There is also some research made into 'plasma processing' in order to separate plastic and aluminium, but no mention in the article..?
A section about the recycling of Tetra Pak materials could really be helpful... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.240.143.199 ( talk) 15:31, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
The source cited for the two-sentence "criticism" is from 1991. I don't think that the section should be written as it currently is given that the only criticism is 20 years old. It would be nice to have some updated sources or I'm going to re-write this section to reflect the age of the criticism. Ekips ( talk) 01:32, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
I agree. A lot of things have happened in the last 20 years in the fields of ecology and recycling, and the source feels very out of date. The figures stated (that only 2% of all packages are recycled for example) are surely not adequate any more. Please feel free to re-write the section with some new and updated information. Tartesauxpommes ( talk) 07:38, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
The Environment -> Criticism section reads more like a positive critique. Perhaps a revision is needed. -- 121.72.189.149 ( talk) 07:41, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
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What exactly is the Tetra Pak made of? When we drink milk or juice out of a pak, is it touching aluminum foil or not? Aluminum is highly toxic and atoms enter the body like that. So is this healthful or harmful? Don't answer that! Just someone please let us know if the Tetra Pak Tetra Brik first layer touching the liquid is aluminum or plastic or???????????????????????????????????? I went to their website and again, MOST IMPORTANT PIECE OF INFO, AND IT DOESN'T SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Someone please reply [row of asterisks redacted, as they apparently break the display on small devices - ColinFine ( talk) 16:26, 7 February 2019 (UTC)] 66.125.194.26 ( talk) 13:51, 13 October 2008 (UTC)Alu or no alu
ANSWER to "MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION": PRODUCT TOUCHES POLYETHYLENE -- SEE ASEPTIC PROCESSING WIKI ENTRY (and read Tetra Pak Materials discussion entry below too) 199.196.144.11 ( talk) 20:05, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Waters from Tetra Pak were tested estrogen-positive, and significantly higher compared to that of water bottled in glass. This higher contamination could be attributed to the migration of EDCs from the inner lining of the Tetra Pak packaging, which consists of a Polyethylene plastic film. — I'd like another reference than just this one. [1]
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Hello, my name is Victor. I am an employee of Tetra Pak and have disclosed my conflict of interest in the banner above, as well as on my User page. I am committed to following community guidelines. Because of my conflict, I will post suggested edits here, and will not directly edit the article myself. I've noticed that there are sourcing issues throughout the article such as Tetra Pak and Tetra Laval's own websites being used as primary sourcing. As I understand it, this is against Wikipedia policies. There is also information throughout the article that looks like it is out of date and may no longer be accurate. My goal is to support the community by providing improved sourcing and to help find places where the article can be updated to offer a more accurate profile to the encyclopedia's readers.
I've shared what I hope is a reasonable request below. Please feel free to ask questions or share comments here or on my Talk page.
I'm excited to collaborate with you! Thanks, Victor at TetraPak ( talk) 09:43, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
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Please reach out with any questions or comments. Thanks, Victor at TetraPak ( talk) 09:43, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
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Hello editors, would anyone be interested in updating the infobox for this article? It looks like the employees and revenue and employees figures are from 2017. Here is the 2019/2020 annual report from Tetra Laval, which includes the Tetra Pak data. I believe this source is appropriate for reporting this type of information in the infobox. The updates are:
Let me know if there are any questions I can answer. Thank you, Victor at TetraPak ( talk) 07:13, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
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Would it be reasonable to add mention of the recycled polymers Tetra Pak is starting to use in some packaging? I think this is recent news about the company that would fit in either Products or Environment. I have proposed some language below with a source and the understanding that editors may alter the content.
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I welcome questions and comments here or on my Talk page. Thank you for looking, Victor at TetraPak ( talk) 08:36, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, Editors. I'd like to propose changes to content and sourcing in the Business and markets section. Below, I've posted my suggested version, in which I've tried to address the following:
As of January 2021, Tetra Pak was operating in over 160 countries through its 29 market companies. [1] Between 2007 and 2010, the company saw growth in emerging markets and opened new plants to meet that demand. Tetra Pak invested €100 million to build a plant in Russia in 2007, and built a €60 million plant in China the following year. In 2009, the company announced that it would invest more than €200 million to build plants in India and Pakistan to serve emerging markets in Asia and the Middle East, where milk consumption was rising, especially of Ultra-high-temperature processed milk. At the time, two-thirds of Tetra Pak's global sales came from dairy packaging. [2]
In 2010, Tetra Pak reported a 5.2 percent increase in sales, with an annual turnover of approximately €10 billion. Growth in Asian, Eastern European, and South American markets helped drive the increase. [3] The company opened a €120 million aseptic packaging plant in Vietnam in 2019 to supply countries in the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, Australia, and New Zealand. [4] According to the company, it had total sales of €11.5 billion in 2019. [5] Tetra Pak's most popular product is the Tetra Brik Aseptic, a best-seller since the 1970s. [6]
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Feedback and thoughts are welcome. Thank you for reviewing, Victor at TetraPak ( talk) 20:57, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, I'd like to request editor input on a few potential updates to the Environmental policy section. I noticed that the section mentions some programmes from around 2010, and goals for 2020 such as the company's work toward using only FSC-certified paperboard. Would it be acceptable to add some newer info about progress Tetra Pak has made in these areas? Below, I've proposed some possible additions with sourcing that I hope is appropriate.
In 2020, Tetra Pak joined the European Alliance for a Green Recovery, [3] and set new goals to achieve net zero operations emissions by 2030, and net zero value chain emissions by 2050." [4]
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KyloRen3 and AntiVan, since you've both been helping with the advert tag, I thought you might be willing to weigh in here as well and share your thoughts on these updates. I want to be sensitive to the work you've done already working on content that was promotional. As I have a conflict of interest, I will continue to defer to what reviewing editors decide meets Wikipedia's guidelines and are willing to implement on my behalf.
Thank you for taking the time to review. Cheers! Victor at TetraPak ( talk) 12:13, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
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