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The article says the spy is of "ambiguous origins (but with an unambiguous penchant for cigarettes)", but isn't he French? I'd rather ask here than go trying to rephrase that myself... Thoughts?
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On the spy update page http://www.teamfortress.com/spyupdate/english.htm there is a “portable Baccarat detector” Baccarat is most popular in France —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.101.114.165 ( talk) 13:46, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
In the new meat the spy video at the end he speaks French http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTj6tauY1JU I’m not asking for this to be put in the article until this video becomes official. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theinnocentguy ( talk • contribs) 13:35, 17 May 2009
He definitely sounds french in the video, although i can't remember it being explicitly stated anywhere, so I don't think it can be accepted as fact yet. 202.53.199.72 ( talk) 03:00, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
The Spy speaks French (Merde), Spanish (Amigo) and Italian (Cant remember) as well as English in-game. 92.3.237.66 ( talk) 18:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Considering the wide variety of languages he speaks in game, the fact that he perfectly replicates a Scout's voice (I don't know if that's an effect of the disguise, does it really matter?) and that he's a damn spy, I'm not sure accents should even be taken into account. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.62.178.202 ( talk) 05:29, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Unquestionably French. Lets remember that the characters are blatant stereotypes and the absurd number of french references (even cigarette smoking) should not be overanalyzed . Even if you don't agree with me, 'ambiguous origins' is unsubstantiated and should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.73.105.142 ( talk) 13:42, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
While this may or may not be a reliable source of information, Team Fortress 2 Wiki clearly states that the spy originated from France- http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Spy ~Comicreader13
Soldier refers to Spy as French in several of his domination lines ("Hit the showers, Frenchie"). Whether or not Soldier qualifies as a reliable source is questionable, though: he also refers to Engineer as Canadian. 88.159.200.2 ( talk) 13:43, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
How about this as a source? Says he's French. http://www.wegame.com/games/tf2/spy-tf2/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.34.211.24 ( talk) 19:34, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
For information, the most recent update for TF2 added more implication that the spy is French, including the new revolver "L'Etranger" and the overall Algerian-themed "Saharan Spy" kit. 203.217.150.69 ( talk) 03:17, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
The most recent update to the official Team Fortress website lists his country of origin as France [2] Radical Ans ✉ 02:04, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure that an article on a single video game needs 77 references. Smurfy 16:17, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
They clearly don't use the same engine (or at least the same version of the engine) that the game uses, and they don't feature actual gameplay. Is it correct to label them as machinima? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.46.106.122 ( talk) 23:52, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Valve use a special in-game recorder to do the official trailers. 92.3.237.66 ( talk) 18:54, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
This may be relevant information:
— 216.171.189.244 ( talk) 02:21, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
The date of the Scout Update has to be wrong, there are only 28 days in February. - 68.8.253.223 ( talk) 23:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
In all of the biographies for the classes on their Meet The... pages, the names of the classes are all capitalized. This is the same in the "tip" parts of the loading screens, and mostly everywhere else where the class's names are shown. I am going to edit the page to follow this suit, but upon looking back in the history, I see that this has been done before, but was reverted. Why? 24.218.211.138 ( talk) 16:10, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
I think it is apparent from the TF2 blog that the sniper is the next class being updated, however, it is not clearly stated that it is the one that is coming out NEXT. Cainine ( talk) 00:16, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
um cheak again [3] the nex update will be the spy www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2497
The pyro has bean suspected to be female by a portion of the community Among other evidence there:
valve have done this on many occasions such as the double bomb cart in the scout update and the cloaked spy behind the sniper on day 3. http://img196.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tf2page.jpg&via=tfrog. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.101.114.165 ( talk) 13:41, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
I believe that adding the information, after clearly labeling it as a fan speculation or a rumor(similar the the rumors in Super Mario 64 would be encyclopedic enough to add to the article. - ~VNinja ~ 08:03, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Okay, So in the main menu, it suggested I try and get 3 assists using the Pyro, with the caption under it "Why not give *her* a shot." 75.139.159.103 ( talk) 06:18, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
It randomly chooses between him and her, actually. Valve are just toying with you, of course he's a man. He doesn't have feminine forms and his voice actor is a man (the same one as the Spy, at that). -- 142.213.254.2 ( talk) 18:17, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Does this external link really fail WP:ELNO? We avoid "Links to open wikis, except those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors", but this one's been around for a couple of years, and seems to have hundreds of editors. Does it have known stability issues? -- McGeddon ( talk) 22:30, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
It is nothing but a spam. -- SkyWalker ( talk) 06:49, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
How does TF2 disambiquously refer to Transformers 2? Transfomers is one word, and it's not called Transformers 2, but called Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. ["TF2" redirects here. For the sequel to the Transformers film, see Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.] should be removed.
According to the Valve's TF2 blog, the TF2 Wiki is now an official site, so I think linking to it is appropriate now. WakiMiko ( talk) 16:19, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
I've seen throughout the internet that there is still debate as to whether the 'Meet the Spy' video was leaked on purpose or not. I figure this is not proof in itself but might weigh in somewhat during discussions. This is the HD Meet the Spy video off of Steam. Pause the video at 0:05 seconds. On screen is a giant board of words. "Intruder Alert", "Red Spy" and "In Base" are lit up. Look to the bottom left of the board. The bottom left most board says "Red Briefcase", I believe. Move one board above that, which reads "Hungry". And then -and this is the thing I want to point out- move one board to the right. The board there says "Leaked Video".
http://store.steampowered.com/app/5260/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.66.205.208 ( talk) 22:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
From the article it seems the game can be either purchased with the Orange Box, or alone through Steam. Does this mean the circa-15 dollar Team Fortress 2 released in stores dont support steam game? Or is it just that the version sold in stores is just not mentioned (and fully supports multiplayer accounts)? Thanks with clearing this out! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ergotoxin ( talk • contribs) 16:17, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Does anybody know who voices the main characters? As in Heavy, Scout .ect - Bladez636 ( talk · contribs)
All voice actors are mentioned here [4]. Interestingly, the Pyro and the Spy have the same voice actor, as do the Heavy and the Demoman. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.89.179.189 ( talk) 03:38, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi, guys! We have a problem. We have two different footnotes named "IGN": One defined in "Classes" section:
<ref name="IGN">{{cite web|url=http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/791/791200p1.html|publisher=[[IGN]]|title=''Team Fortress 2: Class Warfare''|date=[[2007-05-23]]|author=Goldstein, Hilary|accessdate=2007-09-21}}</ref>
The other in {{ VG reviews}} box in "Reception" section:
<ref name="IGN">{{cite web|url=http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/826/826080p1.html|title=''Team Fortress 2'' Review|publisher=[[IGN]]|first=Charles|last=Onyett|date=2007-10-09|accessdate=2008-05-02}}</ref>
Since the article is using both, could someone rename one of it and check these references? Hołek ҉ 18:00, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Update main page to include classes which have recieved the update. So far it only shows that the Medic class have been completely been retooled. This should be changed according to the current status. "The Medic, Pyro, Heavy Weapons Guy, Scout, Sniper & Spy have been completely retooled by Valve". This can be verified both ingame and on www.teamfortress2.com 203.101.92.123 ( talk) 12:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
I heard from the blog, the updates are planned in October, any conformation, or anyone want to add it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.112.67.200 ( talk) 03:37, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Since TF2 is one of the rare game which enjoys full fledged development support, not only for bug fixes and minor update but also major additions and game modes, I feel it would do more good if the kind of response it has recieved from the gaming community is added. If it is allowed, I could try and put some thought in this. Reason for doing so is that the reviews and ratings here reflect tf2 at the time of launch and its value has only increased since its inception approximately two years ago. 202.87.62.22 ( talk) 12:57, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Just looking at the video, I've got to say the sniper's accent is NOT australian. He almost sounds like he's from London. Any thoughts? I dont want to change the article but I really think so! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.132.98.155 ( talk) 13:02, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Should we have a section regarding controversy in-regards to TF2? The Hats, achievement maps, idling, framerate issues, stuttering, halos, and TF2-vs-FF issues all are relevant to TF2 in my personal opinion. 72.68.32.112 ( talk) 13:18, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
The following should be okay: (The statement by valve is here: [5])
Modifications have even been made by server operators to:
There also seem to be a lot of anti-halo groups, most quite large. Including
The model for the halo can also glitch, showing invisible spys if they have it equipped
Regards, Captain n00dle T/ C 17:09, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain-n00dle ( talk • contribs) 17:08, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Hurm, as another note, the whole point of citations is to make the article verifiable, these links provide that verification and add more weight than perhaps a second hand news article would? They should be classed as "Primary sources" as they document the original digital work? Captain n00dle T/ C 18:15, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Could anyone clarify if the game got censored in Germany? 22:23, 16 October 2009 (UTC) Cid SilverWing —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.166.178.16 ( talk)
We need to write a new section detailing the game's backstory, as revealed in recent updates. The article makes no mention of Mann Co., TF Industries, The Announcer, Saxton Hale, Zepheniah Mann, Redmond and Blutarch, or the fact that RED and BLU are actually owned by the same company and kept fighting for unknown purposes.
I think that with the Engineer Update (the last update currently known to be planned) Valve is finally going to reveal the world of TF2, the reasons why RED and BLU are fighting, and all that jazz.
We also need to mention how Valve has seeded the story since launch day (TF Industries has always been in the game) and how they have revealed it in updates and through comics. -- Love, Smurfy 18:15, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Anyone think that the system requirements bit needs updating, or at least notes? Since the numerous updates to the games I've known people whose performance has gotten worse, to the point of some not even being able to play the game.
I know Valve themselves haven't changed it as seen on the steam store page ( http://store.steampowered.com/app/440/), but should it be kept official? Plus the stories of people upping their graphics to attain better framerates because processing gets transferred to the GPU and all that.
I run a Core2 Duo at 1.7GHz with 2GB DDR2 RAM and a GeForce 8400MS on multicore rendering, and still have everything set to low in order to run 15-40 FPS on average. Texture is on high because it doesn't seem to affect performance whatsoever.
And yeah I've been meaning to get an account. 206.21.96.139 ( talk) 21:21, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Valve has made a great effort in making it's players aware of Saxton Hale, and he has become a major part of the "lore" of TF2, along with the Announcer. The closest reference you see to him in the actual game is the MANN CO. stamp on the Soldier's Direct Hit rocket launcher, though I would wager a major part of the community knows exactly who he is and what he represents to the game. He's made blog posts, been featured in update news, and even mailed letters to curious fans. I'm wondering if this deserves any kind of mention, or if we should keep to the game. EdenMaster ( talk) 20:35, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
There is also an unofficial gamemode. Mr.Mark 02:59, 30 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrMark1337 ( talk • contribs)
I think that there should be a section about the cultural impacts of TF2 on the page. Does anyone agree?-- Mamaluigisover9000 ( talk) 01:02, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
I have never played this game, I do not play this game, and I never intend to play this game, but I'm wondering why it isn't okay to add a simple link to this game's IMDb page: Team Fortress 2 at IMDb --- Why can't we have this? dogman15 ( talk) 21:00, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello Dogman15, the IMDB link is about the People who make the characters voice/sounds. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.115.31.208 ( talk) 20:40, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
It's out. Why is it still on the Vaporware list? I took it off. Keep it off, people.-- 24.147.229.201 ( talk) 14:18, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
It's Vaporware if it wasn't released. Keep it off. Or I have you reported for vandalism.-- 24.147.229.201 ( talk) 20:55, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
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With so many updates it's become a bit unwieldy. Here is what I propose.
On the PC Team Fortress 2 has received over 100 updates ranging from bugfixes to feature and content additions. Beginning in April, 2008 with the Pyro update and ending in July, 2010 with the Engineer update the principal focus of updates were the so called class updates. Where each class given alternate weapons with different abilities, while putting in certain drawbacks to each unlockable weapon to maintain balance. Each class update also includes various other additions such as game modes, maps and cosmetic items such as hats or badges. These items are awarded to the player in a variety of ways; some items are promotional and require the player to own a game or buy a newly released game before a certain date, many weapons can be unlocked by completing specific achievements for that particular class, weapons that do not have achievements tied to them can be found by crafting other items together or found by the random drop system. To hasten obtaining these unlockable weapons and cosmetic hats, a minority of players began using third party programs that idle the player's client on a server whilst external to the game. In response, Valve removed any items gained using these programs, and awarded those who did not use these programs with a free hat. As a part of Valve's OS X gaming initiative a port of Team Fortress 2 to OS X was released on June 10, 2010 with special Earbud item given to players playing the game on a Mac before June 14, though the giveaway period was later extended to August 16.
Community involvement has been a significant part of Team Fortress 2's ongoing development. Popular community made maps are usually included with major updates and in January, 2010 Valve started allowing users to submit additional content, such as hats, weapons and Steam avatars, through a contribution site. After a couple smaller updates with community created content Valve released the "Mann-Conomy" update which added 65 items, most of them community created, the Mann Co. Store where players can purchase items with funds added to their Steam wallet, and trading. The creators of the community made weapons and other items receive a 25% royalty of each sale which due to the popularity of some item sets resulted in substantial royalty checks. Which Valve flew the creators out to their studio to present to them personally, some totaling $47,000 USD for the first two weeks the store was open. Some of the updates involve the community directly during their reveal, the Solider and Demoman update was based around a supposed war between Soldier and Demoman classes fighting over new weapons. Throughout the 7 days of the update, players were encouraged to play the Soldier and Demoman classes, as every kill of the opposite class would add to a tally and the winning class would receive a fourth item. On the day of the release it was revealed that the Soldier had killed more Demomen, and the gunboats, the secret item, was given to the Soldier. They are boots which drastically reduce damage from rocket jumping and occupy the second weapon slot.
With some better copy editing and citations of course, but basically what I'm thinking of. That would replace the sentence or two about each update and the main paragraph. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skeith ( talk • contribs) 03:02, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
The first paragraph does not mention anywhere what type of video game this is. It should be in the first sentence. I came here to figure out what kind of game it is and I still don't know, or I would add it myself. Byates5637 ( talk) 21:57, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
This. Apparently content and modifications which have more than doubled the game's content and significantly altered the way many players view the game apparently simply aren't "significant or critical to game's understanding". Brother Valencio ( talk) 15:21, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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In the section about the Heavy in characters. the name of the "Dalokohs Bar" is mispelled as "Dalakohs Bar", can someone fix this? 66.59.49.88 ( talk) 14:54, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
should the Japan charity be mentioned in the article? It raised over $400,000 from the players, and citation could come from the Team Fortress 2 Blog. If it should, where should it go in the article? Release and Ongoing Developing? Croben ( talk) 16:36, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
PS) The mention will be up for 12 seconds. heh.
Even though the Linux operating system is not supported by VALVe for client-programs (servers they do support), it's a known fact that Team Fortress 2 along with Steam can work inside of WINE and run on par with the performance of Windows/OS X systems. Perhaps adding Linux (with WINE) under Platforms should be considered. Now that it is a Free to Play title, I would say it's a good idea to promote some Linux gaming as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.16.46.36 ( talk) 03:05, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
The game has now gone free ( http://store.steampowered.com/app/440/). The article needs to be updated to reflect this. -- 77.215.75.103 ( talk) 16:24, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
There is a typo in the free to play section. The error is grammatical, search "after a week after" in the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.45.227.75 ( talk) 14:56, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
In the article, it states the Snipers melee weapon is a machete, when it is clearly a kukri, according to the weapon description, and the look of the weapon itself. Thoughts? Detective Sudo ( talk) 11:11, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
"[...]According to Robin Walker, Valve introduced these additional hats as an indirect means for players to show status within the game or their affiliation with another game series simply by visual appearance[95] (although a chosen few hats provide stat bonuses when combined with certain equipment).[96]"
Are there actually any promo hats that provide bonuses? I haven't seen any hat available for promotional reasons that would go with an item set. 12.28.164.2 ( talk) 16:58, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
nevermind. I guess the part in the brackets is refering to hats in general, not just the promo hats. Is it possible to clarify that somehow? 12.28.164.2 ( talk) 17:08, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
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I think it's a bit embarrassing to see. Do we really need it there?--Kingplatypus 00:16, 22 January 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kingplatypus ( talk • contribs)
We need a section about hats. Wikipedian192 ( talk) 03:34, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Let me know if there's anything that I could do to make it clearer for people who have never played. I've been playing TF2 for years so sometimes I can forget how confusing it is for people who don't play. Imcrs ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:49, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/valve-to-launch-steam-linux-beta-at-uds Intelligent Deathclaw ( talk) 11:47, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
I added a bit about the Linux support, but I don't know the requirements needed to play the game on Linux. Goatcheese3 ( talk) 07:05, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
-- It's now available for free through the Steam client for Linux. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.76.45.151 ( talk) 22:54, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
The hats in team fortress 2 are more than customization, as they have created a community of people who dedicate hours to get the best hats to trade. — Preceding unsigned comment added by POOTISHOOVYPANCAKES ( talk • contribs) 01:38, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
TF2 | This user plays Team Fortress 2. |
G'day! | This user's main Team Fortress 2 class is Sniper, the Australian game hunter. |
Bonk! | This user's main Team Fortress 2 class is Scout, the fastest baseball fan in the Bronx. |
Nope. | This user's main Team Fortress 2 class is Engineer, the Bee Cave mechanic. |
Oktoberfest! | This user's main Team Fortress 2 class is Medic, a doctor that repulsed the Nazis.. |
Gentlemen. | This user's main Team Fortress 2 class is Spy, the backstabbing, lady-killer Frenchman.. |
Sandvich make me strong! | This user's main Team Fortress 2 class is Heavy, the Russian with a penchant for guns and sandviches.. |
Hudda! | This user's main Team Fortress 2 class is Pyro, and still wonders just which gender it is, if it's even human. |
Crocket! | This user's main Team Fortress 2 class is Soldier, the overzealously patriotic American.. |
Ka-BOOM! | This user's main Team Fortress 2 class is Demoman, the drunkard black Scottish cyclops.. |
I wanted to experiment on making userboxes, and this is what I got from it. Do tell me if you like the look of these, it's my first time making userboxes, and I threw in some explanation as well (the names for the userboxes have some references in them, for some of the classes). The names (these go after "Template:Userbox/") are "teamfort2", "sniper", "scout", "engineer", "MEDIC!", "shpee", "sandvich", "hudda", "maggots" and "nowextinct". (Sorry for the massive space between the userbox code and this text in the edit screen, t'is a unfortunate compromise to make this look good)
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http://www.teamfortress.com/tf03_cold_day_in_hell/
Might want to update the "Plot" section. 68.225.228.213 ( talk) 06:17, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
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in the description of the plot, red's abbreviated name is spelled wrong, "e" stands for excavation Firewarrior2112 ( talk) 21:31, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
Ms. Pauling's name is spelled "ms. paul" in the last paragraph of the storyline — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.239.72.232 ( talk) 22:00, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
I have checked on the Xbox LIVE game database and Team Fortress 2 is not available to download and play on the Xbox 360. Did Valve or Microsoft disband the game? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toughcookie1234 ( talk • contribs) 18:53, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
I edited the word "an" to "and" in your sentence, Tough. I'm a huge grammar-obsessed freak and it bugs me to see things like this. Hope you do not mind. Your friend, Billy ( talk) 19:21, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
I hate to say it, but there it is: I don't think this article is worthy of GA status, at least not any more. The main reason is the writing: it really needs a thorough copy edit. It's unnecessarily wordy and some sections are very long and dense. The prose also contains some errors; for example, the free-to-play section used to say revenue had "increased 12 times", when the source says "increased by a factor of 12", two very different statements. I've already done some copy editing here and there, and broken the classes section into subsections, and I'd like to hear if other editors agree or disagree. Popcornduff ( talk) 23:28, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
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In '3.6 Supported peripheral hardware' please replace "Occulus Rift" with "Oculus Rift". This typo is seriously making my eyes burn. 83.142.58.162 ( talk) 17:50, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
How is the game M Rated. The violence is not ultra-gory and why is this M rated. This game could have been T rated for language, drug use and suggestive humor LucaElliot2 ( talk) 17:46, 25 June 2014 (UTC) LucaElliot2
Well — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.254.77.227 ( talk) 14:17, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
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In the trading section, it says that the weapons do not change gameplay, while it should say that the cosmetics do not affect gameplay, because most of the weapons differ in function or stats from the default. I'd do it myself, but I've not been autoconfirmed yet. Lennbot ( talk) 10:20, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
There's no citation for the 54 player claim, and I've talked with someone who is a valve game expert from /r/TF2. There are no 54 player servers, nor is there a way to do this.-- Rockintyler8 ( talk) 02:21, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
I can confirm this. Source's multi-player capability is only limited to 24 players but the rarest servers handle 30 players so claiming TF2 having 54 players is noting but nonsense (exception of 90 player servers on DarkRP in Garry's Mod because of having a substantially modified engine). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Penguin330 ( talk • contribs) 05:58, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
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Vac 2 was the chosen Anti-Cheat for Team Fortress 2.
In July 2010, several players who successfully used information leaked from Valve to increase their chances of finding a rare Team Fortress 2 weapon/tool called the Golden Wrench found themselves banned by VAC.
In June 2011, an unknown false positive detection caused a handful of Team Fortress 2 owners to become banned.
Following the events of false bans Vac 2 is no longer supporting Team Fortress 2. Team Fortress 2 instead is given a script to ban anyone who downloads certain links from known "cheating websites", because of trolling and proxy this method was also abandoned. As stated by Gabe Newell.
Intension of abuse_report_queue is not to report cheaters or bugs. The purpose of abuse report queue or pressing F7 by default is to get collect data to see if people would give data of certain types. all of the requests go to data mining and are never read by a person and all sends are saved for future study. As stated by Valve they are not for banning cheaters or helping resolve bugs. To do so one must go into the forums or send for help threw vac forums.
68.7.205.180 ( talk) 01:08, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
The "Plot" section is becoming an increasingly problematic eyesore on this article, and I feel that it has no place here anymore as it entirely deals with the comic series rather than the game itself. Almost none of the comics' plot is exposed in the game, and no additional context from the comic is required to understand the concept of the game - it is, more or less, an on-the-side thing that only provides an optional backstory. The comic series is still ongoing, meaning that the Plot section is still incomplete, and is just going to indefinitely expand in length and become increasingly irrelevant to the article if we continue adding onto it every time a new volume is released. Even if it were strictly about the video game, it's still an overly drawn-out retelling of the entire story that really has no place in a plot synopsis. It just seems very out-of-place for an article with Good Article standing.
With all of this said, I propose splitting the Plot section to a new article such as Team Fortress 2 (comic). Protoss Pylon 19:09, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
At that very moment, the betrayed Red Medic and other TF-classic team rushes into newzealand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.252.149.195 ( talk) 16:12, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
"In early June 2015, the "Gun Mettle" update was released"
This is not right. The update came out on the 2nd of July, not June. The source cited for this fact says so as well. 217.123.33.101 ( talk) 03:05, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
I wanted to bring that up since in the NPC section, all the characters besides these 2 have a voice actor alongside their names. Tanner Ghosen ( talk) 14:24, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
Why was this semi-protected? There doesn't seem to be a lot - if any vandalism attempts.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.168.39.153 ( talk) 15:14, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
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Competitive play
Team Fortress 2 is played competitively, through multiple leagues. The North American league ESEA supports a paid Team Fortress 2 league, with $10,080 in prizes for the top teams in 2012.[39] In addition, Team Fortress 2 is played in multiple free-to-play leagues including UGC (United Gaming Clans), ETF2L in Europe.[40][41] and AsiaFortress in Asia[42]. Team Fortress 2 is played competitively commonly in one of three gamemodes: Highlander (one of each class, 9 players per team), 6v6 (2 Scouts, 2 Soldiers, 1 Demoman, and 1 Medic with other classes used in certain situations), or 4v4 (1 Scout, 1 Soldier, 1 Demoman, and 1 Medic, with other classes used often). While formalized competitive gameplay is very different from normal Team Fortress 2, it offers an environment with a much higher level of teamwork than in public servers (also known as "pubs"). Most teams use a VOIP program to communicate, and use a combination of strategy, communication, and aiming ability to win against other teams. Many competitive leagues also feature an item banlist (also known as a "whitelist"), in order to speed up gameplay and remove untested or undesirable strategies from matches.[citation needed] Valve has revealed they plan to implement a matchmaking system based on these two modes, similar to that of Counter-Strike: Global Offensive.[43]
About the item banlist: http://www.ugcleague.com/files_tf2h.cfm and a Highlander whitelist: http://www.ugcleague.com/files/configs/HL_whitelist/item_whitelist_ugc_HL.txt
I don't know how you'd go about referencing them but they do exist. The main purpose of whitelists in games is to ban unfair or new untested weapons, as well as certain taunts (such as the High-Five Taunt) which can impact gameplay.
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Sorry, but you left the new (well not exactly new) Pass time gummed thing.
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I have been playing Team Fortress 2 Since 2007 and Team fortress Classic since 2001. There are a few factual errors i would like to correct. Thank you. Stoopid monkey ( talk) 21:08, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
@ Stoopid monkey: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Murph9000 ( talk) 21:30, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
There should be a section regarding the new officially supported competitive mode that came along with the Pyro Vs Heavy update in the post-release section, as well as a link to the official Team Fortress Wiki in the external links section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nathanjo ( talk • contribs) 13:37, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
The acronym TF2 isn't important for understanding the subject, and I think we should omit it from the article. I support Lordtobi's removal of the acronym. I mentioned Dota 2 in my edit summary as an example of a case where an abbreviation is important - Dota 2 is almost always referred to by the acronym Dota 2. This article isn't like that. As for the PlayStation articles, see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Popcornduff ( talk) 04:36, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
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(SPELLING CHANGE) In the fourth paragraph of the game modes section under gameplay, change consist to consists, and there to their. SyncHeart ( talk) 14:40, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
In the first paragraph of the Gameplay section, please add something describing that the normal player limit of servers is 24. There is text describing a limit of 16, and a limit of 32, so why does the paragraph not list the default limit? If you need a source, look at most of the servers online right now. 2607:FCC8:C2C4:5B00:B51A:4510:37C2:F62B ( talk) 23:20, 1 May 2018 (UTC) Random bloke in America
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Change Heavy's origin from Europe to Russia (USSR). IceboundCat6 ( talk) 00:09, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
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Change "were" to "where" Zuckinson ( talk) 04:11, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
I see the section for game modes is listed as needing more citations and some sentences are tagged as citation needed. I am unfamiliar with the protocol for citing game mechanics. These are just things in the game one can see by playing, and the game does not have a detailed website that explains the mechanics. As someone who plays, I can vouch for the accuracy of the information (at least, the sentences I skimmed with the citation needed tag were accurate). As far as I know, there aren't any kind of writings to cite for these game mechanics. Do they really need to be cited? I would suggest in good faith that we remove the template for needed citations in the Game Modes section. Also, I would request an edit in the competitive play section to clarify that competitive leagues (like ESEA) are third parties not related to the game's developers (in contrast to the developer's dedicated matchmaking). BishopsHouseofHorrors ( talk) 01:06, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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In the part of the page where it describes the Pyro, it says they are a mentally unstable pyromaniac. They likely aren't, because if you read their mask, it says optical mask, implying that it changes what they see. This is called Pyroland in game. 2600:6C46:7C00:1BB2:7CA5:7591:FC35:3341 ( talk) 01:31, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Pyrovision_Goggles, and the item's description. Also, as previously noted, "optical mask". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.41.102.117 ( talk • contribs)
It is an official Wiki for the game, and the game even links the wiki in the Mann Co. store. Optical mask. I will not try to get this added to the page after this last attempt. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6c46:7c00:3c2b:6c2d:47b7:a41f:95b7 ( talk • contribs)
I request having a link to the official Team Fortress wiki at the top of the page telling users to click it for more in-depth details about Mechanics, Maps, etc https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Main_Page The Kickster ( talk) 20:44, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
The "Video games containing loot boxes" category should be applied to this page, seeing how Team Fortress 2 is arguably the first Western video game to implement the mechanic. 64.43.19.203 ( talk) 23:08, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
I added a few references to the game modes section, and I removed the two Citation needed templates. Is there anything else the secion needs, or can we agree to remove the maintenance template? -- Chilors ( talk) 17:05, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
Rockn-Roll ( talk) 19:44, 5 October 2019 (UTC) Follow the guidelines and avoid opinions and criticisms...Wikipedia is here to provide information not discussion. Discussions, opinions, and criticisms of a game can be made on the publisher's and developer's websites as well as many other venues.
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Hey, was just thinking of updating the competitive section and adding a little bit too it. Thanks. Technicalcynical ( talk) 15:30, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
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Under "Development" and "Final Design", the first sentence in the third paragraph is repetitive. The inspiration of the artstyle was already mentioned in the first sentence of the first paragraph with the same source. The placement of this fact in the third paragraph is also irrelevant to the sentences that follow, and is borderline a non sequitur. AlexTheBestCat ( talk) 14:49, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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The part on this wiki calling it a first person shooter is wrong. It is the first war themed hat simulator. http://www.teamfortress.com/history.php here is the evidence. MrEmployeeYT ( talk) 00:26, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
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why no edit
I feel like the 2019-2020 bot crisis in TF2 should be mentioned somewhere in this article, likely under Post-release. As nearly two years have gone by it's been the most defining problem for TF2's recent development and community lately, so it has major significance, and also major notability, as it has several articles about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nekomancerjade ( talk • contribs) 00:46, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Under Core game modes section, change "The cart will increase as more BLU players attempt to push it." to "The cart's speed will increase as more BLU players attempt to push it." Widgethocker ( talk) 01:41, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
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The article mentions April as a moment when bots began to spike, but febuary (I wish I could spell) is where the bots started to become an actual problem, I think we should add something about that
Not to mention there was actually another bot invasion back in 2018, perhaps we should talk about it some way, it could be seen as a precursor to the modern bot crisis, as the Cathook bots do use the same open source program the current bots use
Can you please sign your talk pages? 22wrench ( talk) 06:56, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
May I suggest that we add summaries of every "meet the team" video to the marketing section (a sentence or two is all we need), for example Scout:
Scout's meet the team video involves a video of him running through enemy territory, seemingly trying to collect an objective, before he walks into the video explains himself to the camera. The video then shows him fighting the Heavy Weapons Guy, before defeating him and eating his sandwich. Crystalpalace6810 ( talk) 16:40, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
WP:UNDUEWEIGHT has absolutely nothing to do with any of this. Player character and non-player character bios under "gameplay", core trading mechanics as an aspect of economy rather than the other way around, "marketing" overwhelmingly focusing on tie-ins, many of which are entirely stand-alone or otherwise don't have very much to do with the actual advertising, and "development"->"post-release" not actually covering development after release are all inadmissible formatting issues. Year of release and setting info are both core aspects of a work of fiction, the second-to-lead paragraph rework helps better summarize the development in a more organized and comprehensive manner (engine first, artistic stylings second) that also flows better into the third paragraph. Other than that its just a bunch of minor readability improvements. Please review your edits better and make sure you are properly linking to the correct [WP:] before submitting. Orchastrattor ( talk) 03:22, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Could the text about #SaveTF2 and the bot crisis be moved to a new section (or a more relevant one)? It doesn't seem that relevant to "what Team Fortress 2 is". Including an official update that overhauled how players interact with the game makes sense for an explanation of how the game is played. Randomly throwing on that there has been malicious third parties that sometimes appear in matches to hinder players, does not. It feels tacked-on by a frustrated fan or said malicious third-parties to gain notoriety, rather than an official documentation of events relevant to the game.
Plus, if it was moved to a new section, details about the #SaveTF2 movement could be elaborated on as it was reported on by multiple sources and has a fair amount of history to it. And if needed, other topics such as the Crate Depression, or TF2's pioneering of the extremely controversial lootbox system, or the poor MMR of the official Competitive Mode, or the constant server DDoSing... could also be included, where believed to be relevant. AHShadow05 ( talk) 15:43, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
I suggest that the title of 2019 Crate bug should be changed to Crate Depression of 2019", as the game's developers called it Crate Depression in their Update on The Crate Depression of 2019. Luketeam5 ( talk) 13:40, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
There should be some mini-section about this. Also, more info for how people meme about the bot crisis. This item literally can cost you more than 1000$. Teuf0rt ( talk) 17:45, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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ESEA dropped TF2 long ago. The new major league is RGL for 6v6 and UGC for highlander 173.89.220.248 ( talk) 19:14, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
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When listing off the classes, each with their voice actor next to their name, Gary Schwartz's name is labelled as "Gary Schwartz" when it's listed next to Demoman and as "Schwartz" when it's listed a second time as he voices Heavy, however Dennis Bateman's name is labelled as "Dennis Bateman" when it's listed next to Pyro and then labelled as "Dennis Bateman" again when it's listed next to Spy, which is an inconsistency with Schwartz's name when it's repeated. I suggest either listing Schwartz's name listed next to Heavy as "Gary Schwartz" or listing Bateman's name listed next to Spy as "Bateman" in order to have consistency between the two occurences when a voice actor is repeated amongst the classes. Dingerfish ( talk) 08:55, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
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Requesting to change the header for the "2019 Crate Bug" to "Crate Depression of 2019" as within the official website the event is referred to as the Crate Depression of 2019. FusionSub ( talk) 10:27, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
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More information should be in the last sentence of the "Bot accounts and #inveTF2" subchapter. Valve quietly edited their blog post from "an update-sized update" to "a holiday-sized update". This should be added to the article to provide more information.
Here is my source: https://www.thegamer.com/team-fortress-2-update-quietly-changed-holiday-sized-community-content/
Thanks. AugustusKhan ( talk) 22:37, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Hi there, I am curious if more could be stated about Expiration Date considering its length and importance to the community. I find that it affects the consistency of the article to state more about the Meet the Team episodes than the short film. Thanks! Drdr150 ( talk) 16:36, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
@ Masem, in the description of this edit you say that discontinuation dates are not included in infoboxes “period”. Where is this written? Asperthrow ( talk) 23:43, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
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the summer update was in july 12 not july 13 as written in the wikipedia page currently, so please change it to correctly say july 12 as the date the summer update was released Rywrhdfuwy34jhewryr ( talk) 17:49, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
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Change: On February 9, 2023, a blog post was mad on the official Team Fortress 2 website, saying that a new "update-sized" update was coming to the game. To: On February 9, 2023, a blog post was made on the official Team Fortress 2 website, saying that a new "update-sized" update was coming to the game. Reason: Missing 'e' on the word made. Munitions ( talk) 03:08, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
As of January 12, 2024, the bot problem has had a massive resurgence, thus the issue was only effectively ended for a period (through most of 2022 and into 2023). The resurgence kicked back up in December, when player count for the game doubled overnight, and has been hampering game play yet again. Having played the game casually for over a decade at this point, this is by far the worst bot wave the game has had. You can see the player numbers here: https://steamcharts.com/app/440 AnInterestingName ( talk) 14:46, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
I thought medic was from rottenburg, not stuttgart? JVR2023 ( talk) 16:44, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
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Add the fact that buds are no longer unanimous with trading, rarely being used today. Keys are now the most defined and used currency. 99.124.226.254 ( talk) 03:38, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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03:45, 8 April 2024 (UTC)there is a lot of memes that have originated from tf2. for example, there is a popular tf2 meme known as "pootis," which is a misheard line from the heavy class. should a section about memes be added? AaronNinetyTwo ( talk) 12:10, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
The infobox should list the price. Benjamin ( talk) 02:42, 30 April 2024 (UTC)