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– The film is likely the
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The only other article named "Suzume" (that's not related to the film) is about a song that only got 1.1k page views in the past month, making it unlikely to be more notable. A Google search of "Suzume" also shows results that mostly relate to the film.
Harushiga (
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13:40, 13 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Popularity is relevant, but only if sustained over a longer period. We don't see that here: the film only got released 6 months ago. And, even though the film is highly popular at the moment, there are still significant clickthroughs from the dab page to the articles about the bird and the song
[1]. –
Uanfala (
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16:34, 14 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Weak support: Users searching for Eurasian tree sparrow are unlikely to do so by searching for the transliteration of its Japanese name, and users searching for suzume are much more likely to be looking for something else specifically named suzume. Among those I think the movie is by far the most likely target, even if its popularity will fade over time.
ChromeGames (
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18:45, 15 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Support as the film seems obviously the primary topic among the other pages bearing the exact wording 'Suzume'. Pageviews of
Eurasian tree sparrow have actually been on the rise recently, in the lead-up to the film's english release
[3] - I would guess some of the clickthroughs from the dab page these days noted by Uanfala are driven in part by curiosity of movie-seekers. We could always put a
template:about at the top of the 'Suzume' page to the one for the sparrow.
PhotogenicScientist (
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14:46, 17 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Oppose recentism. A work whose title is a generic word for such a ubiquitous bird family cannot be assumed to hold long-term significance.
Nardog (
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12:02, 18 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Support: the bird is commonly called '(Eurasian) tree sparrow', not 'suzume'. The song is fairly old and not all that popular, and the dance 'suzume odori' doesn't even have its own article, but is only mentioned quickly in
Japanese traditional dance. The film is recent, but it's made by a very successful director, so there seems little doubt that it will remain considerably more popular than the song, making it the primary topic.
Krissie (
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08:05, 19 April 2023 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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