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As someone pointed out in a
discussion I started on
WP:VG talk, the Legacy section of this article is not covering the long-lasting impact of this game, it is simply listing all the sequels. This is already covered in the main series article, which this section already refers to. I am
boldly deleting this section, but have started a thread if someone objects and we can discuss. --
ThomasO1989 (
talk)
18:55, 29 May 2020 (UTC)reply
IMO, the legacy section should cover this specific game's notability over time, or its direct influence on future games or other unrelated games. If its legacy is just "it made a bunch of sequels" then what is there is write about that isn't already covered in the main series article?
ThomasO1989 (
talk)
12:26, 20 October 2023 (UTC)reply
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The article has numerous uncited statements. The reception section is quite short, considering the amount of literature that has been written about it. I am also surprised there isn't a legacy section, considering that this is the first in a very successful video game franchise.
Z1720 (
talk)
16:12, 19 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Upon performing my own quick look at this article,
Release date is sourced in lead, but not in the actual article?
Reception is too short to conclude anything of how critics felt.
No legacy section, per above, which could easily be made even if it just goes over the sequels established by it. A start could be seeing if this games competitive scene has SIGCOV to warrant placement in this article, or even including some parts about the Smash Remix mod.
A lot of gameplay is unsourced.
Development seems to be okay?
If someone took the time to address the issues mentioned here and above I'm willing to change my stance but in my opinion this is a very clear Delist. λNegativeMP117:16, 19 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment: I had
boldly removed the legacy section because it merely lists all the sequels, which functionally makes it no different than the
Super Smash Bros. series article and is thus redundant. It did not cover this particular game's legacy in the same way that Melee's Legacy section does with the its still active competitive scene. I had
previously brought this up at WP:VG and the consensus seemed to agree.
ThomasO1989 (
talk)
17:21, 19 January 2024 (UTC)reply
While that seems fair and I agree that it's pointless if it only lists sequels, a substantial Legacy section should still at least mention them. I do think however that it should go more into detail about other things of the games legacy, and contain the sequels to a small bit. λNegativeMP117:31, 19 January 2024 (UTC)reply
A legacy section can probably include the sequels to the game, its impact on the fighting genre, its impact on sales for the N64, and its use in tournaments, among other topics.
Z1720 (
talk)
18:07, 19 January 2024 (UTC)reply
It appears that lot of reliable sources exist for Smash 64's esports coverage, and a pretty decently-sized reliable source exists for Smash Remix
[1]. Both are definitely material that can be included in a Legacy section. λNegativeMP120:54, 19 January 2024 (UTC)reply
A lot of legacy sections on a first work in a franchise seem to just turn into redundancy with the series article, so I agree with the axing. But aside from the listing of sequels the relevance on the fighting game community and such does seem reasonable to include.
Der Wohltemperierte Fuchstalk20:57, 19 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment - I feel like the screenshot does not really do a good job at showcasing the gameplay of the series. I think a better screenshot showing 4 players actively fighting on a fairly complex stage like Hyrule Castle or Saffron City would be good.
(Oinkers42) (
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21:01, 19 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Delist. For the breadth criterion, Reception should be greatly expanded from contemporaneous and retrospective reviews. A Legacy section is currently unhandled, per above. And the Gameplay section should be easily sourced to reliable, secondary sources. czar15:35, 20 January 2024 (UTC)reply
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