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like legit, why is this there —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.48.135.35 ( talk) 04:32, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
The battle over this page has been picked up by Kelly's local newspaper: http://www.recordonline.com/archive/2006/02/22/news-bskelly-02-22.html
And who exactly is "Polticsny.com"? RMc 12:44, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
http://www.politicsny.com/ leans left, so I have added that fact. RMc 13:04, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Here's a item from Crain's New York (suscription req'd): A Republican operative is one of the financial backers for The Publius Group, the parent company of the PoliticsNY.com Web site. PoliticsNY.com is an anonymously written site that has sparked much speculation in political circles about the identity of its authors. According to corporate filings in Delaware, Jordan Lieberman, former campaign manager for David Cornstein's short-lived campaign for state comptroller, is listed as the sole director or corporate officer of The Publius Group. The papers were filed Aug. 3, 2000, and listed Mr. Lieberman's parents' home in New Jersey as the company's address.
Crain's New York Business, April 1, 2002, Monday, Pg. 10
"her Democratic opponent was not only poorly funded but managed his campaign so badly that several staffers sued him for intentional infliction of emotional distress after the election."
Removed THIS commentary above from HER biography. There was NO source given for these assertions. Additionally, THIS information about her opponent has nothing to do with the woman herself, and appears to simply be a smear of her opponent.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.12.116.200 ( talk • contribs) .
Should the "Wikipedia controversy" section even be in this article? It seems to violate WP:SELF. I personally feel that this mention of some sort of organized effort to POV push this Wikipedia article by some outside party has no place in this biography. — TheKMan talk 07:51, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
As shown by this diff, we are having a small edit war about whether or not we should include mention of certain bills Sue W. Kelly did not support - personally, as an uninvolved third party, I feel that such information is irrelevant to her career. Unless she specifically denounced the issue, simply not signing one of many issues does not seem to be notable enough about her to be included. I'm open to hearing the other side of the story, however. Cowman109 Talk 03:33, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Cowman109, Thanks for stepping in here to moderate. Actually, the edit war was far more than just this one bill. Jjetski was systematically deleting all references to Congresswoman Kelly's positions of interest to GLBT people. I am glad that at least some of the information was permitted to stand in the last go-round.
With regards to the Local Law Enforcement Enhancement Act (aka the hate crimes bill), the bill had over 155 cosponsors on both sides of the aisle. Sue Kelly stands out amongst her colleagues in not supporting this bi-partisan legislation. This information would be of interest to GLBT members of her district and their families and friends.
Additionally, over 169 members of Congress have agreed not to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation in hiring in their own offices. Sue Kelly has not agreed to this. Imagine this were the 1960s and a Congressman had not agreed not to discriminate on the basis of race, wouldnt that be a fact of interest to racial minorities ? Similarly, I think the fact that while 169 members of Congress have agreed that they should treat GLBT people fairly in hiring in their own office, and Sue Kelly does not is a relevant fact.
Yes, this is "not doing something", and if the wiki community agrees that this type of thing shoould not be in an article, I am willing to abide by it. I happen to believe that lack of support for equal treatment of human beings is an important issue for poeple to know about. However, I think the remaining facts I contributed that jjetski keeps deleting should stay...
thanks Jacklk 00:34, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
03:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
These lines were deleted by the same user as well, on multiple occasions: >These votes cost her the endorsement of the Human Rights Campaign, which had supported her >campaigns prior to 2004[8].Her rating on the Human Rights Campaign Congressional Scorecard is >33%.
(e.g. August 7th edit)
If these lines are deleted, then I would argue that the ratings from other organizations, such as the American Conservative Union, NARAL, Sierra Club,etc need to go as well. Either we talk about a candidates postions on ALL issues on interest to readers or NONE of them. Picking and choosing slants the presentation of the candidate towards a particular political view. I think it is fair to include such things. In this case the edit war was caused by a proponent of the Congresswoman deleting information that they feel in unflattering to the perception that she is a moderate.
I am ok with leaving out the non-support as long as all information relataed to her positions on GLBT issues is not purged . Jacklk 16:58, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
I beleive this section should be kept in. there's a fully investigatable source, found at the YouTube site, and there's a valid reason to include it. A candidate who avoids public scrutiny while campaigning is worthy of note. ThuranX 17:51, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Some users are changing Sue W. Kelly's term of office as ending in 2007, but unless I'm mistaken, has she not been defeated in the recent elections? I don't even live in New York so I'm not sure if she has or not, but whatever it is this needs to be cleared up as the article in its current state contradicts itself by stating that her term is not ending for another year even though she has been replaced by another candidate. Cowman109 Talk 04:17, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Alright people, the RNN video links are important and not a violation of WP:EL. I read the discussion for external links and understand the policy. I would also like to mention that it is not a copyvio WP:C. Specifically I would like to point out that RNN is a real TV station and that the YouTube Links are posted by RNN as a company themselves. If you see the username 'rnntv' that is the offical RNN youtube account and if they didn't agree to post the videos on YouTube -- they wouldn't be there. RNN's run sue run clip I will also like to point out that under RNN's userpage page LISTS the clip that was most recentally edited out as 'faviorated'. I believe that the only thing we can assume here is that RNN has looked at the clip and decided to not repost their own version of the same clip. MrMacMan 01:34, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
I've removed the image that recently replaced the original one. This was placed by a likely sock puppet and is potentially unfree. The copyright page of the host site ( here) makes it clear that images may be protected by copyright and that it's the users responsibility to check if this is the case. The copyright notice for the image used in commons simply argues that it's free to use as it's on the Congress website. Clearly this is not necessarily the case. Blue Square Thing ( talk) 17:36, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
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