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Strapping is frequently referred to as a parody heavy metal band but I see no mention of it on this page. Why not? Is Strapping a parody band or not? I would tend to say that they probably started that way but are not so now. What do others think? Gurp13| Talk 23:28, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Just to note, there is a tentative title for their new album posted on Gene's myspace page. "The New Black" . Someone may want to include this.
so earlier this year City was re-released with a bunch of bonus tracks (like HAARHT), and i noticed that nowhere on the SYL article or the album's article does it mention anything about it. that's pretty sad. and before someone tells me to add the info myself, i wouldn't know where to begin, and don't want to just throw some info into the article making it look like shit. 68.255.230.218 16:03, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
I mean really, listing 2,000,000 genres is just stupid. It's mostly listed under Heavy Metal on the net, in music stores, etc why do we need to list everything they could possibly be considered as?. Currently it says 'Their sound is generally described as Death / Thrash Metal/Death / Grind with strong Progressive rock-influences, Symphonic synth-melodies and influences from industrial music, although this differs from album to album.' It doesn't read well at all, and doesn't really mean much anyway. Each album is quite different, so instead of trying to list everything wouldn't it be less confusing to generalise it? Funny little guy 16:14, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
I agree. I've always viewed SYL as Extreme Metal, because they are a mix between different kinds of metal (Thrash, Industrial & Prog). His solo work is much more purely Progressive Metal, not SYL. Lewis512 ( talk) 23:58, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
I've never heard SYL classified as melodic death metal, by fans, reviewers, or themselves. Has anyone else heard this? Melodic death would be bands like [In Flames], [Dissection], [At the Gates, [Dark Tranquillity], etc...Thoughts? Aboverepine.
Strapping Young Lad is, short of an melodic death metal band. Devin himself, said this in iterview.
I believe that the band also falls under the Progressive Metal genre as well.
No Prog metal and all similarity/relation are due to the influences by the progressive. I though, that doom metal (or even Funeral doom metal) is worthly though for describe their style of playing as well as symphonic black metal, by the vocals and keyboards (string-sections, horns, operatic chores all SECTIONS generally).
i just cut However, many people don't realize that industrial metal usually requires drum machines and other computer-like equipment that a band like Strapping Young Lad does not usually contain. The verdict is up in the air as some foolish still proclaim them industrial; others have accepted that they are bringing real metal to the masses. from the Style section, for being POV and generally lame. i hate trying to sub-sub-sub-classify musical genres, but if someone wants to rewrite this or find sources to do the debating for them, then i leave it to you. the power is yours!
I was there, I'm pretty sure it wasn't free.
I think SYL is a metalcore because I heard some powermetal-based cleanvocals in their music
You can argue what powermetal is and how the clean vocals used in SYL are related to each, but the word metalcore has nothing to do with anything above.
I think that the the "future" section needs to be re-done as it seems to indicate the future of the band is up in the air, and Devin himself has made statements that he was just tired of all of the interviews (which i know is in there) and that there will definitly be more SYL in the future, but he's taking a break right now. The last part doesn't seem to have been taken into consideration the last time the article was edited.
I cleaned up the Future section on the Wiki. It was generally just confusing for someone who isn't frequent in the SYL fanbase. First it cited info from the journalists blog who said that Dev was quitting SYL and DTB forever, than it quotes Dev's official announcement from HDRBoard about him "stepping away for awhile" and not quitting both bands. In other words, its frustrating. The bottom line is that SYL are on hiatus, they have not officially broken up.
74.119.12.154
15:27, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
In the page there's this sentence : "After recording several very successful solo albums, the Devin Townsend band was formed, who, when touring, played SYL songs as well as songs from Devin's solo projects.
This changed on the release of their 3rd album, the self titled Strapping Young Lad. SYL now play separately from The Devin Townsend Band (or DTB) as this band has been populated with new members to create two separate bands."
That's not wrong, but don't you think the denomination "The Devin Townsend band" should only be used when talking about the 'new' -solo material only- line-up? Of course the first one is written the Devin Townsend band while the second one is The Devin Townsend band (and has a link to the dedicated page), but I think it should be written something like "at that time, live tours often consisted of a Devin Townsend + SYL combo, with the SYL line-up playing Townsend's solo material".
Well I doscovered Townsend and SYL shortly after the release of Accelerated Evolution so I can't be sure of anything, but I think it depends on how Townsend labeled his own (non-SYL) material, and how it was advertised on tour, etc...
Also I find the chronology of the history part a bit weird. It talks about the various release up to The New Black, then goes back to 2003 to talk about tour and the live DVD (well overall this paragraph needs to be rewritten now as Ozzfest is over). No disrespect for those who wrote the content 'right, I'm just pointing a few things 82.248.136.82 17:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
I've done a bit of an overhaul, to keep the chronology updated and orderly and also to keep the formatting standard. Italics are best used for album or song titles, for instance. I've kept the DTB reference to a minimum to avoid confusion. People can go and look at that page if they need more detail. All we need now is a decent, allowable picture...and we'll be set. For now.
ComaDivine
07:17, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
OK, I contacted seventhframe photography and obtained permission to use a new pic, which is now in the article. :)
ComaDivine
03:09, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
That isn't even a real genre :/ SYL's early albums are Grindcore, Industrial, and then the format switched a bit to Death Metal, Deathrash, and currently they're doing Thrash, Melodic Thrash, and Progressive Metal. It's hard to confine them to one genre, so we should list all of them. Thoughts?
Creation Destruction 23:34, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm more in favor of having as few as possible up there, maybe we should try and find what the band list themselves as on a reliable source rather than this constant edit war. Funny little guy 06:50, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
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I really do not understand, why is anyone (but myself) find that some quite very symphonic from the SYL's music in generally!!! Symphonic link really should be in the article cause Strapping Young Lad really sounds like it by the keybords. At finally anyone objected sympho??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.112.20.146 ( talk • contribs)
No sources. But if you think "sympho" should'nt be added, the go and listen to some newer stuff of SYL. For example. "Shitstorm", has massive "Symphonic" sound, playing by the keyboard's string sections in the middle part. And contrary to what you've stated, above, "Symphonic metal" bands, often use an synthesizer too. Good example is finnish, Eternal Tears of Sorrow (never heard of?), and many more "Symphonic death metal" bands, as well as "Symphonic black metal" outfits.
WTF? Why in hell is this tag added? I mean who the fucking stupid kids keeps adding it? Not since thei'r debut-HAARHT, neither with Steve Vai or City Devin never had playing nothing close to grindcore!! Really how it's any song even from early demos has anything to do with grind at all?? All stuff i've heard of it has nothing but prog/death thrash-metal, idustrial hardcore crust whatsoever, but still, blastbeats per se will NOT make the band grind!! Im therefore looking forward editing grindcore link away from the page, untill good sources will be provided. And hell, just, simply why SYL is considered grindcore? Who actual musician considered Strapping Young Lad Grindcore? Devin himself? Listen to SYL if you still consider SYL as grindcore! Any sources? vitalist
In the last FAC, commenters stressed the importance of finding a strong reliable source to back up the assertion that Devy is bipolar. I think you've successfully done that here. The magazine Zero Tolerance, which Townsend reprints on his own website, is as reliable a source as can be found for a musician of this relatively obscure caliber. The interview plainly states that the singer is bipolar. However, you appear to be stretching the source to prop up the claim that Townsend's not taking his meds somehow led to more extreme lyrics for the Alien record. That's not really what the interview says. Is says that Devy is manic depressive. It says that he stopped taking his meds. It also contains a quote from Devy that, "Lyrically, it’s the most extreme I’ve ever been." But nowhere does it suggest a causal relationship between the latter two facts. Please read WP:Synthesis to understand why we shouldn't do that.
In short, I think the interview is great (or at least adequate) source for the fact that he's bipolar. It's not a valid source for your argument about the Alien lyrics (which, IMO, are some of his strongest; his frightening rants remind me of a girl I was dating the year I bought that record....but I'll save that story for another day).-- The Fat Man Who Never Came Back ( talk) 02:16, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
SYL has often used a little girl's voice (and usually some kind of a story she tells) in their songs, such as the beginning of SYL itself. Who is this, exactly? 71.235.127.232 ( talk) 21:49, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
No. That's you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.181.140.88 ( talk) 11:45, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
isn't it about time that we had a computer game as today's FA on wikipedia instead of this sort of pseudo culture? or how about an episode from Family Guy like The Man with Two Brians? it's hilarious Mr Poechalkdust ( talk) 05:23, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
and then maybe the full name logo that followed later. 2001:44B8:41A7:4500:E6CE:8FFF:FE52:BA7 ( talk) 23:09, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
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Just found this old video which displays that Mike Sudar and Jed Simon were both in the band at the same time, and that Devin didn't play guitar live during the HAARHT touring cycle. So the members' timeline needs to reflect this, as Jed didn't replace Mike. VampireKilla ( talk) 08:02, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
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