Passed GA. Reception section still requires work, however, it just about meets all the criteria.
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for
GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.
If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)
I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I will use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.
Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.
First of all, thank you for reviewing the article! I am currently a bit busy but I will try to look into your suggestions as fast as possible.--
DasallmächtigeJ (
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19:42, 3 March 2019 (UTC)reply
It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). - Y Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski(
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I have never done archiving etc before and have absolutely no clue how it is done. If it does not take up much time, I would be very grateful if you could help me out here. Otherwise, I have to look into it next weekend.--
DasallmächtigeJ (
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19:40, 3 March 2019 (UTC)reply
"Steep is an extreme sports game set in an open world environment of the Alps and Denali (formerly known as Mount McKinley), which can be explored freely by the players" - two things - This game is an online multiplayer game, this would be great to start the paragraph. Also, remove the players. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski(
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The game also utilizes the GoPro camera during races. - Not sure what this means. There's not an actual GoPro camera, might be worth stating it has a camera angle similar to gopro, or similar. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski(
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The four main activities available in the game include skiing, wingsuit flying, snowboarding, and paragliding, while some places may require hiking to reach. With later DLC, rocket-powered wingsuits, sledding, basejumping, and speed riding were also incorporated. Players can switch between these activities by using the game's menu wheel. - All of this needs citing. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski(
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Players can collide with each other if they enable the "collide feature" - Either uneccesary, or should be re-written that players make contact, unless disabled in settings. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski(
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contribs)18:07, 3 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Done I changed "trail" to "path". As for tricks, I linked the page describing snowboard tricks (for skiing, there is none), hope that helps.--
DasallmächtigeJ (
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19:20, 3 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Done my problem here was that the game does not have much of a story, frame action would describe it better. Yet, the Olympics DLC features an actual story, so I was struggling to get all the different aspects into one section... I changed it to story now according to the guidelines.--
DasallmächtigeJ (
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19:28, 3 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Just because it's a plot section, doesn't mean it can't have sourcing. This is generally only for actual story sections, so the bit on setting should still be sourced. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski(
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The thing is there are no external sources going into detail about the specific peaks and regions. I took all of that from the game. I could use the game as a source if you like.--
DasallmächtigeJ (
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19:32, 3 March 2019 (UTC)reply
The game doesn't really have a plot outside levelling up, and acheving the rank of "ultimate legend". Doesn't the game also have mountain paths that all have individual stories? Seems like an omition. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski(
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As stated above, frame action is more like it. The "mountain stories" are completely self-contained and do not further any story of any kind. Most resolve around a mountain telling you how beautiful it is or some random guy telling you why he likes skiing. I would not consider any of them relevant.--
DasallmächtigeJ (
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19:32, 3 March 2019 (UTC)reply
In hindsight, I went a bot overboard with this section. I wanted to include everything an article could include, such as a setting and a story. But the game lacks an actual story and naming all mountains is unnecessary detail. Most information can be found in the gameplay section. Thus, I have decided to shelve this section altogehter and include all necessary information in the gameplay section.--
DasallmächtigeJ (
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16:12, 5 March 2019 (UTC)reply
"In February 2016, Ubisoft announced that their games lineup in their fiscal year 2017 will be "multiplayer-centric" - in the 2017 fiscal year They don't own it. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski(
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The game was revealed at the 2016 Electronic Entertainment Expo as the closing act to Ubisoft's press conference. The showing included a trailer and playable demo. - Condense to one sentence. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski(
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Aside from the typo, this sentence adds nothing - "Additionally, the games features several other smaller DLC packs containing clothing, as well as the ability to buy in-game currensy for real money." Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski(
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Done my pc is rather old and when editing in the browser it cannot switch to English. I tried to upload the article into a word file to see the errors better. Hopefully found all of them.--
DasallmächtigeJ (
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17:51, 7 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Hi! I've completed the review. I've placed on hold, but I know a lot of editors would have closed as fail. There's a few major issues with the proposal, but I will give you a couple days to reply and see if you can edit them (I'm not a fan of failing a review, if there is any chance the issues can be resolved.) Here's what I've got:
Prose is bad in places. Including spelling mistakes and grammatical errors. I've highlighted a few above.
Issues around Original research. The setting section does need to be cited.
I will also need to investigate copyvio issues that this article might have. To help with this - condense the quotes in the reception.
I adressed all of your concerns except for the reception section, which I will improve over the next days. Please let me now if you have more suggestions!--
DasallmächtigeJ (
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16:29, 5 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Since I had worked on the article before for
WP:DYK, I simply wanted to add some simple comments. I hope all of you won't mind my sudden intrusion. The lead should include some information about development, you can add a gameplay screenshot in the gameplay section. Digital Chumps, XGN and VGChartz are not considered as reliable sources.
AdrianGamer (
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10:34, 6 March 2019 (UTC)reply
No worries, I didn't see those. Two of those are listed as unreliable, so need to be removed. I couldn't find XGN listed on
WP:VG/RS. Simply not being considered as reliable isn't grounds for not using a source. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski(
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No problem. I'll take another look at the article tomorrow. For future reference if you are worried about spelling/grammar errors in the article, contact
WP:GOCE, and request a review before nominating to GA. They do great work, and saves having to do so much work at the other end. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski(
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