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Did you know... that Spider began making
alternative music because she felt that not enough Black women were doing so?
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Interesting bio on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I like the original hook and approve that one. It clearly says that Spider is a Black woman musician, which I miss in all ALTS, and actually also in the lead of the article; I think that her Nigerian background should be mentioned there. My English is not good enough to tell a difference between "on the grounds" and a simple "because", but I know that the former phrase appears in the article in two sentences in a row, which I believe should be avoided. --
Gerda Arendt (
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11:51, 27 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Launchballer, it seems to me that the article is incorrect in attributing her resumption of production during COVID to feeling there were not enough Black women in the industry;
the source says that she had this feeling in school, before moving to London. This goes for other sources like
this one as well, where her "[disappointment at] the seeming lack of diversity" is described as being around 2016.
Actually, scratch some of that, the hook doesn't have a problem because it doesn't state a date and can probably rely on the lengthy quote for
WP:DYKCITE (although that seems fairly lengthy from a copyright perspective), so no need for the alt hooks to be considered. Sorry for the ping Gerda.
~~ AirshipJungleman29 (
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20:18, 7 May 2024 (UTC)reply
I've taken a bit out of the quote, though I'm now wondering if I've taken out necessary context. I'm a bit confused by your two-part post - what else do I need to do?--Launchballer06:15, 8 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Apologies for the confusion
Launchballer; I felt that in the "Career" section, "feeling that that there were not enough Black women making alternative music is incorrectly placed—the cited sources are clear that she had this thought long before COVID.
~~ AirshipJungleman29 (
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01:19, 9 May 2024 (UTC)reply