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I can't speak for the movement, but good English need not be defined as being British. If, for example, a Singaporean wants to do business with an American, he'd be well-advised not to use fortnight which, though acceptable British usage, isn't part of American English. Two weeks is OK in British and American English and might be called part of standard English.
ahh.... i think the last line is a bit racist, POV and just stereotypical... i think it should be removed. an also to the guy above fortnight is used in america, and two weeks is used as well in english based on the british version, it really just depends from person to person. Australian Jezza 07:45, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Here's how the article starts (after markup-stripping):
It continues in the same vein, talking credulously about "good" and "grammatically correct" English in contradistinction to what a lot of Singaporeans speak.
Have the Singaporeans whose Singlish/English is thought to be in need of improvement learned this language as a first language? If so, they'll be native speakers of it and therefore it will be grammatically correct in its own terms, just as any native lect of English, even a stigmatized mesolect, is grammatically correct.
If the purpose of this campaign is to have Singaporeans speak something closer to standard transatlantic or British English, then this does make sense (whatever I may think of its desirability). And if Singaporean politicians, teachers, and other non-linguists believe that nonstandard equals substandard, then this (mistaken) belief merits mention in an encyclopedia. However, for this WP article to suggest that deviations from "standard" English (whichever standard it may be) are "incorrect" or "wrong" would fly in the face of consensus among linguists and do a disservice to readers. -- Hoary ( talk) 08:31, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
TheOnlineCitizen isn't a mere online comment site. In 2011, TOC was gazetted as a political association and is registered as a media outlet under the Media Development Authority. See http://theonlinecitizen.com/theonlinecitizen-team/ , see also http://www.seapabkk.org/component/content/article/22-seapa-reports/100585-singapore-historic-elections-inspire-hope-for-freer-expression.html , and see
Put back this sentence in my previous edit after its removal: In an exclusive interview with The Online Citizen, one of the Singapore's key social commentary websites, its unnamed founder directly called into question Dr Balakrishnan's appeal about the SGEM. [1]
Per request, I'm adding some comments on here that could help move the article closer to GA status:
That alone should be enough to work with to start out. Wizardman 23:20, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
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Taymccreary, your recent edit puzzles me. "Center" within "Regional English Language Center" does seem to have been a mistake. But why the changes from "organised" to "organized" and the like -- in what sense were these "spelling errors" (your edit summary)? -- Hoary ( talk) 23:25, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
Hello Taymccreary -- anything happening?
Some effort has gone into this article in the past, but it's terrible. Being terrible, it should be easy to improve (if hard to turn into something good). Just about wherever I look are major problems. Here are just two:
Not sure what "focusing on the target audience" adds to this paragraph, but that minor point aside, this implies that the campaign was relaunched as recently as 2017 if not 2018. Is this true, and if it is true, then what has happened since 2013?
Not a single example is provided. Whereas in a well-educated democracy perhaps linguists mightn't have to point out that a campaign to have people speak good is based on faulty premises, in a one-party nation where the government always knows best, pointing out this kind of thing may even be slightly dangerous. The article might tell us. Certainly it shouldn't talk airily about "linguists and social commentators" without evidence or examples. -- Hoary ( talk) 23:12, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
I can't find sources for the latter two quotes attributed to TalkingCock in the citations listed right now. Does anyone know where they would have come from? Anafyral ( talk) 11:34, 23 October 2022 (UTC)