The article seems biased. The part about the negative health effects all have things rebutting the facts without sources and nothing rebuts the facts about the positive health effects. Why is that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.79.232.58 ( talk) 02:37, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
- by "whole milk", does it mean whole cow's/dairy milk?
Thanks.-- Tyranny Sue ( talk) 00:30, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Why is it that this article uses AD and BC to express a particular point in time? The proper usage of timeline would be BCE--before the common era and ACE--after common era. As these abbreviations do not assume that Christ is involved in a persons common understanding, as BC (before Christ) and AD (after death) insert this pre-conceived bias into the article that every reader will understand this time cycle. However, this I'd not always the case, especially for people unfamiliar with the Christian religion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.160.132.142 ( talk) 00:28, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
It's not true that cow milk lacks omega-3. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grzes ( talk • contribs) 11:28, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119485101/home -- 222.64.219.173 ( talk) 01:00, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I don't really know much about how to make changes but for anyone that does, the picture of a girl supposedly drinking soya milk is actually, apparently, a girl drinking sperm according to the picture's own description. Possibly not appropriate? -- 62.31.181.204 ( talk) 10:40, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
This image was most likely placed here by a malicious editor. It's actually a woman preforming Gokkun, which is consuming semen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.79.67.63 ( talk) 18:56, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
The article reads: "While the study found a decreasing trend in sperm concentration with soy intake, it also notes that soy food and isoflavone intake were unrelated to total sperm count, ejaculate volume, sperm motility, or sperm morphology and that the clinical significance of the findings remains to be determined.[11]"
This obviously can't be true. If the sperm count remains constant, and the ejaculate volume remains constant, how can the sperm concentration decrease? - 208.123.162.2 ( talk) 00:57, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
'soy' is US English.
'Soya' is used in other languages and cultures around the world, including UK English.
This article is biased towards the USA-centric view of the planet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.17.80.28 ( talk) 20:28, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
"which is insoluble in humans". I wasn't aware that humans were a known solvent. If the original author is reading, could you explain what you mean here? JonSenior ( talk) 10:27, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
In the article it says "...paint-like, off-flavors of traditional soy milk..." I think this isn't very correct or neutral. While some might prefer a more neutral soymilk, the "traditional" soymilk is what people prefer in most of asia, and it is what at least I prefer too. I think it would be better to write "the bean flavours of traditional soy milk..." /Kalle, 2 Oct 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.66.110.214 ( talk) 14:27, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
The article includes inaccurate information according to which Australia does not use the term soy milk. In fact, most products you see on supermarket shelves as well as in Asian food stores are labelled soy milk or soymilk. Very few manufacturers (if any) use the term soy drink. This would need to be amendeed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.228.5.61 ( talk) 02:12, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
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The negatives of soy aren't really mentioned, see this:
http://www.nmia.com/~galenvtp/WAPSoyP2.pdf
At least some mention of the phytoestrogen issue is necessary. Zokvok ( talk) 19:10, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
In regard to : . " Soy milk (unsweetened) contains 6028 μg of phytoestrogen per 100 g wet weight. " . Precision should NOT be confused with accuracy : "6 mg" in place of "6028 ug" would be a better expression of the parameter. . I make no comment as regards the facts or effects of the item in question. . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.223.55.44 ( talk) 19:27, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
This page is biased:
Cow milk is meant to be consumed by calves, not by humans. Soy milk is suitable for humans. — Preceding
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Very unscientific, and heavily biased. "because the amount of soy that could be grown using the same amount of land would feed more people than if used to raise cows." If you stop feeding your cows with human foods, people can eat beans cows will eat the stalks(yes thats what they actually eat) and I can have my good old fashioned cheese without exposing my taste buds to soya, so everyone will be happy, except for the vegan who added that sentence to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.107.89.84 ( talk) 21:43, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
I removed the translations because this article is not supposed to be a translation service. I removed the data on cow milk because the article is on soy milk. 71.255.88.243 ( talk) 18:30, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Since this article is just called "Soy milk", shouldn't it just be put in the category "Milk" rather than the category "Milk substitutes"? Any responses will be appreciated, thank you. ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 10:45, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
"Eating raw soybeans on a regular basis causes the pancreas to hypersecrete, leading to benign tumors of the pancreas."
Requesting a reference for that. As a physician, I haven't seen people with pancreatic tumors linked to hypersecretion of proteases. Do you mean pseudocysts (which are not tumors)? In any case, a credible reference is needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.57.17.66 ( talk) 15:58, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
How could the EU pass a law about who can use the term "milk" in 1987 when the EU didn't exist until 1993? Is someone being lazy and referring to one of the trade commissions that existed before the formal founding of the EU? Whole Wheat Ιγνάτιος ( talk) 19:04, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
With all due respect, as there is no Soy Tit, WHY do we call this Soy Milk? Coal town guy ( talk) 18:04, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
When I first opened this page, there was some weird "wikimedia" advertisement "shoot the robber and get a reward!" thing. I removed the jumble of text at the beginning of the article in the edit screen, but that also removed the banner on the right side of the article. When I put the text back, with the intention of figuring out exactly which part pertained to this odd ad, the ad had vanished. Just wanted to let you guys know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:E:9680:38B:D1F3:519A:CF67:4DF5 ( talk) 09:20, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
Step 1: Soak 3 cups of dried soy beans over night or for at least 8 hours. Step 2:Drain and carefully rinse soybeans then pass them through the Omega 8003 juicer. This step takes about 5 minutes.
Step 3:Pour 1 gallon of drinking, distilled or spring water into a large stainless steel pot. Add the mashed soy beans into water and stir for few minutes. Step 4:Pass the mashed soy and water through the Omega juicer again to extract soy milk and pour the soy milk into another large pot. Step 5:Pass the soy milk though a cheese cloth the final time before cooking it. It takes about 10-15 minutes from steps 3 to 5
Final Step - Cook Soy Milk
This is an important step. The cooking time is important, as raw soybeans contain a factor known as a tripsin inhibitor. Essentially, this means that the protein contained in the beans cannot be properly assimilated by the body unless the beans are well cooked. Soy milk should be cooked for at least 25 minutes from the first boiling time. Another challenge is the soy milk may stick to the bottom of the pot. A wooden spatula is very handy for stirring the soy milk.
a) Put the pot of soy milk on the cooking stove. Use high heat. Stir the soy milk clockwise every 25-30 seconds. Make sure there is no soy milk stuck at the bottom. If it is stuck, use the wooden spatula to remove it. b) When it boils, adjust the heat to medium, keeping it at a boiling level. At this time, you only need to stir the soy milk once in a while. The soy milk may also rise very quickly. If it does, take the pot off the stove for about 30 seconds and put it back afterwards. It may rise about 3-4 times. c) Use a timer to set the time for about 25 minutes then turn off the heat. Soy milk is now ready to drink or for making tofu.
Variations and comments This method uses juicer to grind soy beans but you can also use blender, food processor, grinder or stone grinder. Combine with a cheese cloth will yield the similar result as the above juicer but more labor work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.161.126.216 ( talk) 16:39, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Jettto seems to feel strongly that we shouldn't refer to "milk" but rather to "juice". Changed it back in August 2013 here and today here and after I reverted, asking for discussion, again here. Per WP:COMMON we refer to things as they are referred to generally in reliable sources, and the sources generally do call this "soy milk". Discuss, please! Thanks. Jytdog ( talk) 16:01, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
According to the article on gout, the following statement under "Health and nutrition" is not true: "For people who suffer from gout, purine in soy can make the condition worse". The article on gout makes the following statement "Studies in the early 2000s have found that other dietary factors once believed associated are, in fact, not, including the intake of purine-rich vegetables (e.g. beans, peas, lentils, and spinach) and total protein." based on a study referenced there. My opinion is that we should either remove the comment entirely or note that there are conflicting recommendations. Opinions please? -- Quadiago ( talk) 10:48, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
The "Taste" paragraph feels very biased and incomplete. First, it actually doesn't describe the taste, which is "oaty", "ricey" or "vegetabley" according to the source [1] and my personal experience, at least for the better products. Also "A majority (60%) disliked the soymilk sample slightly, moderately, very much and extremely" according to the source doesn't really confirm "consistently significantly inferior". Seems like 40% of the testers liked soy milk? Also treating soy milk just as a milk substitute and not as it's own product isn't really fair or appropriate. -- Jonathan Haas ( talk) 13:38, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
It's odd that he isn't mentioned. Here's a good source: http://www.soyinfocenter.com/HSS/harry_miller.php -- BullRangifer ( talk) 18:07, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
The sections below are too weak in sources and too distant from actual soy milk in relevance to be included in the article.
Free radicals When soybeans absorb water, the endogenous enzyme, Lipoxygenase (LOX), EC 1.13.11.12 linoleate:oxidoreductase, catalyzes a reaction between polyunsaturated fatty acids and oxygen {hydroperoxidation}. LOX initiates the formation of free radicals, which can then attack other cell components. Soybean seeds are the richest known sources of LOXs, which are thought to be a defensive mechanism by the soybean against fungal invasion.
Estrogen controversy Soy is a plant-based estrogen, or phytoestrogen, containing two isoflavones, genistein and daidzein, which have estrogen-like properties with wide-ranging effects, including reproduction and cancer effects. [1] Controversy has arisen based on isolated reports of feminizing changes in men who consumed soy, [2] although subsequent research showed no effects of soy protein or isoflavones on men's reproductive hormones. [3] The effects of soy on thyroid health are still not fully known although preliminary research indicates no adverse effects. [4]
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The "taste" paragraph currently only contains information about soy milk as a cow milk substitute for drinking. It's not really unexpected that people prefer vanilla flavored sweet drinks but obviously these wouldn't work well in classical Asian cuisine or as a milk substitute in many "salty" meals. Can we add some information about how regular soy milk (without additives) tastes, preferably without comparing it to cow milk? -- Jonathan Haas ( talk) 12:19, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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help)."it was discovered that prolonged heating eliminated this effect", what effect? 31.50.156.84 ( talk) 15:18, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Should this article title be moved to "soymilk"? I prefer the spelling without spaces.-- Solomonfromfinland ( talk) 10:29, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
This edit was made because the content and sources are not about soy milk, and are a rant about unproven negative effects of soy and phytoestrogens. Soy milk contains such a small amount of actual soy constituents - with no evidence of significant phytoestrogen content - that such a beverage is better described as a "soy flavored" drink. Any nutritional benefits of soy milk are the nutrients added purposely during manufacturing. PMID 27723080 is a 2017 review of phytoestrogen effects on health, showing the still-current inconclusive status, and if anything, phytoestrogens confer a health benefit, rather than a risk that was emphasized in the content removed. -- Zefr ( talk) 17:21, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
Soybeans are a common topic in discussion of international trade, as has been happening just today. Is there justification for researching, developing, and including a concise section on that topic (imports and exports of soybeans)? MaynardClark ( talk) 22:04, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Where is soymilk widely consumed? Is there existing 'body of knowledge' about the marketability of soymilk and soyfoods (where soybeans are not consumed as animal feed)? MaynardClark ( talk) 16:13, 12 December 2019 (UTC)