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Sigh, this page should be at "Sophia of the Palatinate" or "Sophia of Simmern". But that would be pretty hardcore, wouldn't it? Any opinions?
john 22:23 1 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Is this the same Sophia as the character in
Neal Stephenson's Quicksilver trilogy?
crazyeddie 08:07, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Um...I don't know what exactly Joseph Munchausen von Braunschweig-Lüneburg did with himself, but I'm pretty dang sure he was never the Emperor of Japan. I've removed the job title, but I'm not sure what to replace it with. I've also removed the extremely doubtful nickname of 'Coolio' given to his brother.
Inara4210:56, 1 December 2006 (UTC)reply
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Now that I think about it, I wouldn't mind having this article titled Sophia of the Palatinate because the article would be consistent with other articles about consorts and the books you cite (although some of them are not specialized in this field) prove that the title isn't
invented. My opinion notwithstanding, I hope you won't mind me playing
devil's advocate. My concern is that Sophia of Hanover is the name which is most commonly used to refer to this woman. For example,
98 books refer to her as Sophia of the Palatinate, while
974 books refer to her as Sophia of Hanover. Books which are used as references in the article about her son also refer to her as Sophia of Hanover. It's certainly not a normal practice to refer to a consort by her "married name", but it may have something to do with the facts that she was known as "Electress Sophia of Hanover" during Anne's reign (meaning that 18th-century sources refer to her as Sophia of Hanover) and that she brought the Crowns of Great Britain and Ireland to the House of Hanover.
I agree with you totally Surtsicna. Perhaps Sophia of the Palatinate, Electress of Hanover? Or, alternatively, Sophia, Electress of Hanover. Feel free to move it back :). I comprehend your concerns, which are very much true. --
Jack1755 (
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18:01, 27 August 2009 (UTC)reply
I think the reason that she, unlike most other consorts (not
her mother, though), is known largely by her married name is the Act of Settlement. Basically, for all that her life was interesting, and such, she is basically known for one thing - that the Act of Settlement made the heirs of her body the heirs to the throne of England. And in that context she is almost always referred to as "Electress Sophia of Hanover." In general, I don't think it's that big a deal, though. None of us seem to feel too strongly about it, so maybe just leave it where it's been.
john k (
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19:05, 27 August 2009 (UTC)reply
Her husband Ern(e)st August(us) is described as 'Elector of Brunswick-Lüneburg' at the time she married him. This is not so. The article gives the impression that the Electorate of Brunswick-Lüneburg somehow preceded the creation of that of Hanover. In fact they were the same thing, and it was created in 1692. It should be 'Duke of Brunswick-Lüneburg'. This is explained at some length in the Wikipedia article on 'prince-elector'. — Preceding
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78.35.146.43 (
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16:09, 7 December 2012 (UTC)reply
Did she or didn't she?
According to this article, Sophia never visited England. However, the article "Act of Succession 1701" says "Sophia herself went to England to campaign for the act". Neither claim is supported by a citation. One of them is wrong. Which is it?
209.179.101.211 (
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19:13, 21 March 2013 (UTC)reply
That statement is missing from the article now, but I've added a citation needed tag to the claim in this article. I tried to find a primary source, but all I found were articles using more or less the exact same wording as The Wikipedia. If true, it's an interesting fact. --
CGPGrey (
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15:34, 19 June 2013 (UTC)reply
"Given the ailing William III's reluctance to remarry, the inclusion of Sophia in the line of succession was becoming more likely.[8]"
This isn't right. Even if William had remarried and had children they would not have succeeded; the Act of Succession provided that only his children by his first wife Mary could succeed as he reigned in her right. After Anne, and any children she might have, Sophia was always going to be next. Can't edit this myself as can't get the hang of all the rules (and can't be bothered to find a reference to the source) but it's true.
81.153.132.68 (
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09:57, 14 November 2014 (UTC)reply
IIRC William himself was brought forward in the line of succession to co-rule with Mary by the Glorious Revolution but any children he had by any later wife would have come after Anne and her children. William was a grandson of Charles I by his daughters and thus close in the line of succession in his own right but Parliament only accepted his demands for his own person. In practice by 1701 neither he nor Anne had any prospect of living children.
Timrollpickering (
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18:54, 1 June 2024 (UTC)reply