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Well the first thing we would need would be a few more of the more impersonal details - birth days for instance, but nothing that would allow a crazed stalker to track her down. The second would be some sort of hard copy verification. Anyone know if any newspaper has covered her career so far? It is moments like these I wish I had her Mother's phone number.
Lao Wai17:45, 24 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Exactly in what sense is calling Ms Yan a Chinese-American POV pushing? Ethnically speaking she is of Chinese origin or are all Bensheng Ren denying that now? Anyone know what she thinks?
Lao Wai09:53, 21 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Chinese-American in an ethnic term, not a political one. The Taiwanese are mainly of Chinese origin. That is not POV, that is a statement of fact. Nor do we know what Ms Yan herself thinks. She wrote most of this article I believe yet has not changed that category. The assumption must be that she does think she is a C-A. It would be POV to claim otherwise.
Lao Wai13:29, 21 July 2006 (UTC)reply
One can argue Japanese and Korean are originally of Chinese origin, claiming a Taiwanese American to be Chinese is a controverisial political issue because of the political status. We do not say George Bush is English because he is of English ethnicity, we say he is an American. If this person holds both a Taiwanesea and Amerian citizenship, she can be only be classified as Taiwanese American.--
Bonafide.hustla20:24, 23 July 2006 (UTC)reply
George Bush checks "white" on the US Census form. Sophia Yan checks "Chinese". "Taiwanese" is not an option. --
Jiang01:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)reply
They check Asians instead of Chinese. Plus US census has nothing to do wikipedia. Of all the Taiwanese I know, they do not check Chinese because they do consider themselves a separate cultural group or a greater part of the Asian cultural group.--
Bonafide.hustla02:12, 24 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Chinese is listed under "Asian"; that is the next item down. Taiwanese refusing to be known as huaren is an extremist minority, like native Hawaiians refusing to accept that they are Americans. It is evident that you do not read the Chinese newspaper or listen to speeches by DPP politicians. --
Jiang02:40, 24 July 2006 (UTC)reply
No Taiwanese I know, not even the Deepest Green supporters, deny they are ethnically Chinese. I don't know that many Deep Greens though. What you are doing is taking a small and unrepresentative political view and foisting it on Ms Yan. I do not know if she calls herself Chinese American or Taiwanese American or even Belgian American. There is no point making her support a political point of view she does not. It appears that she is around here and she has not changed the C-A category so far (if you're out there, leave me a message and I'll fix it. Nice photo too by the way). Also "Taiwanese" citizenship does not exist. She can only hold a Republic of China passport.
Lao Wai09:45, 24 July 2006 (UTC)reply
You call President Bush an American, not a British-American, even though he's ethnically British. In addition, Korean, Singaporean and Japanese are also originally of Chinese origin, but you don't call them Chinese-Americans. Chinese American refers to people from China, which may or may not apply to Taiwanese because of the politcal situation.--
Bonafide.hustla10:32, 25 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Again, this is discussed elsewhere. "Chinese American" is an ethnic/racial label, not a political one. Mr. Bush is white, the common term applied to European Americans. Just like Mr. Bush, Sophia Yan is an American. "Nationality" is not relevant here. --
Jiang10:42, 25 July 2006 (UTC)reply