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Thanks for the chronology, people! That really came in handy. But where does Sonic Pinball Party fit in?
It wouldn't fit in anywhere, there is no storyline that would continue/advance the series, it is just a game, released by SEGA for "the fun of it." Tails0600 03:42, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
The Wikipedia page for Sonic Pinball Party states that: "Sonic Pinball Party takes place before Sonic Heroes, as Metal Sonic still works for Dr. Eggman." Can anyone confirm or refute this? BTW, how do I sign my comments like I am supposed to? 205.250.222.77 08:32 25 Febuary 2007 (UTC)
Well, first of all, I don't think Metal Sonic does work for Eggman, I mean, in Sonic Heroes, he defied his master, and took plans into his own hands (or claws). But, always something to look into.
And to sign your name, you'll type four tildes (They look like this: ~), or there is a squiggly button (
) above. Don't worry, when you start talking more, you'll remember. In the meantime, I'll add your signiture for you.
Tails0600
03:38, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't it be Sonic the Hedgehog? (note the capital T) I read that "The" was his middle name
Should there be a page about all the Anime and Movie references in Sonic games. Sonic's ability to turn into a faster, yellow "Super Sonic" mirrors the Super Saiyan ideas from Dragonball Z. The Death Egg seems to be directly ripped from Star Wars. Knuckles' Angel Island's ability to float also seems to be borrowed from Laputa: Castle in the Sky. 87th 18:05, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
We know the Super Sonic idea is in fact a homage to Dragonball Z but the other References cant really be confirmed. Jennytablina 23:20, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Really? The Death Egg/Star seems extremely obvious. 87th 18:19, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Should the chronological order of the Sonic Games be displayed somewhere in the article? I read somewhere that the games' stories are not in order of release. Perhaps someone could clear it up. Rim-Fire 21:30, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
How can Sonic Rush be canon? If it was, it would contradict the events of both Sonic the Hedgehog on Playstation 3 and X-Box 360(in Sonic the Hedgehog, Blaze is from the future, not from an alternate world) and Sonic Rivals(in Sonic Rivals, Eggman Nega is also from the future, not from an alternate world). Michael Mad 22:04, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
I think we should either remove the chronology section altogether or make it to somewhat like the Legend of Zelda series article, we just can't confirm anything the order, and since we have no confirmation of what is canon; we cannot leave out games. The Conscience 10:55, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Sonic and the Secret Rings and Sonic Riders isn't on the list. Ryu Ematsu 16:05, 07 April 2007 (UTC)
I really doubt this section is needed. The statements about what is "canon" or not is based ENTIRELY on speculation alone. No official statements have been made by the people who created the series and cannot be defined simply due to references in recent games.
Neofcon
I think there should be a sonic wiki. It would be so cool -User StrongCool from hrwiki.org
This article can eventually be a good article or feature article after we have expanded it. However, the following needs to be taken into account:
List by DavidHOzAu 08:14, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Meh, I'm going to expand this article myself. I think however I'll have to reshuffle a few sections once I'm done: for instance, I suspect that the list of characters will at least be after the "Common Features" section. Got to keep a smooth flow of the article. -- DavidHOzAu 11:00, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Okay, added the table you can see to your leftabove. Feel free to update you guys. --
DavidHOzAu
06:51, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
I previously posted a suggested layout here. You can find it in the page history. I removed it because we should wait until the article is more comprehensive before we decide where everything should go. -- DavidHOzAu 07:30, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
I've rearranged the article; it is much more logical now, especially in regards to WP:WAF. -- DavidHOzAu 11:38, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Note: The "to do" box has been moved to the top of the talk page, as is the case with all other Wikipedia articles. -- DavidH Oz Au 07:36, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Why do we need a page about rings as used in the Sonic games? There's not much you can say. Shouldn't that be handled on this page? Ace of Sevens 20:33, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Oppose No, that would give us too much information to put on this page, notably the section In other media does not belong on this page. I have reverted the merge. Please wait longer and met
consensus first. --
DavidHOzAu
08:19, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
I tried to revert this, but Randall Brackett quoted WP:FICT and WP:BOLD in its merge, so my hand is forced. However, as stated above, In other media does not belong on this page at all, it belongs on the relevant pages about the spin offs. It will therefore be removed from the article. -- DavidHOzAu 08:32, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Hmm... I think I'll have to revise that statement: Randall Brackett knows what he's talking about. The article definitely is much better for it. Also, check out his edit to Amy's article; he fixed that nagging problem about her article that I couldn't pin down. -- DavidHOzAu 01:58, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Whoever has put the Chaotix as the main characters, they're not! So I'm moving it back to where it belongs; in the other characters section! And whats worse, when I put them back there somebody changed them to be the main characters and I don't know who it was! And as If I wasn't angry enough, somebody rearranged the other character section in no particular order and it took me some time to fix this! Now the reason Chaotix aren't the main characters is that they haven't had enough information and appearence to be main characters! If you were the one who put Chaotix as the main characters or were the on that screwed up the other character section, I'd like your feedback, please! And once again somebody has scrambled my effort again! That's it!!!!!! It's edit war! I'M NOT GONNA TOLERATE THIS ANYMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I have evidence it could have been Starionwolf! In fact, before he/she edited that it was normal so it is YOU, Starionwolf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- Said 13 20:41, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Jeez, calm down. Chaotix are minor characters, true, but also make many appearances throughout the Sonic series. At least they play a larger role than Big the Cat. Plus, they have key roles in two Sonic games, so they should remain in the Main Characters section. Just get over it. It's just a website. Shadoman 22:46, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
What the devil is wrong with you? More appearances dont really = Main character quality. In the starwars universe, yoda is considered a main character but has the least amount of appearances in all the movies combined. Yet his importance to the over all story is not nullified due to this. Same with the chaotix (heck, they practically saved the world in both heroes and shadow by thwarting Metal Sonic's plans and giving shadow the ability to fight back and reveal how to destroy the black comet) so I DOUBT they can be excluded as main characters. You see Metal Sonic included by he's the only villain from robotnik that is recurring but still has less appearances than the cast people care about. Heck the "main cast" doesn't really contribute that much to the actual stories besides being "cameo fodder".-- Neofcon 21:33, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Oh and it's "Chaotix "aren't" main characters".
purpose of rings is obvious in games. what about their reason of existance in anime (especially sonic x)? it gives a high-speed power to sonic (funny that only sonic is using them) - somebody, who knows sth about details? how could they be found in world of chris, etc.?
83.24.231.247 21:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
I removed that because it wasn't relevant to the article about the video games. Try putting it in the appropriate articles, where each paragraph can likely be further expanded in the new context. -- DavidHOzAu 05:45, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
As "Main characters" and "other characters" is ambiguous, especially from an out-of-universe perspective it makes more sense to try something different. Here's some suggestions for renaming the current "character" sections to something more appropriate:
Playable characters This would give an overview of all characters who are playable in the 16-bit and 3D games. This is the first title that came to my mind was, namely, if a character is a player character or non-player character. The only thing about this is that Metal Sonic wouldn't qualify.
Central characters This would give an overview of all central characters in the 16-bit and 3D games. Note that playable characters are by definition central characters. Dr. Eggman and Metal Sonic would therefore be in this list.
Non playable characters
Minor or non-playable characters
Other characters
All of these sections would give an overview of all characters who are non playable characters or who were only playable in spinoffs. By defintion, if a character is not in the first character section, they are in the second. Of the three possible headers, I'm not really sure which one I prefer.
Comments? --
DavidHOzAu
02:32, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
So it was YOU who scambled the other character section! Said 13 (UTC)
Nope; check the page history, it wasn't me. However, I have been improving other sections of the article. I haven't touched the content of the character section yet. -- DavidHOzAu 11:30, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Said 13, Stop it! Are you one of those fans who complain about other characters being playable in the series. If so, then you need to get over it! The Chaotix maybe minor, but they still have a big role so don't you dare blame people for this. Leave them alone! - B. Anonymous
I added a Criticism section
When I read it, I saw the most PAINFUL spelling and grammar I have seen in my life. People know how Shadow returned, one of Eggman's robots rescued him (it's explained in Shadow the Hedgehog). Sonic Team tries to fill in plotholes, so I think they were oversights. As for the games getting easy, by now, people who used to be total n00bs are now experts. It may be easy for experts, but quite difficult for newcomers. I, for one, am thankful it was removed. Shadoman 22:53, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I keep seeing on Wikipedia in a list of upcoming Sonic games the game Sonic Jump. Originally, it had its own article, but now just links to the List of Sonic Games article, when it is never referenced there. Plus, I've never even heard anything about it until reading it here. Should it be removed? And, considering I'm not terribly experienced with editing here, how can I remove it? I.M.Fearless 22:46, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello all!
I've recently added the story of Sonic CD to the "plot" section, as it is the game which introduces Amy Rose, and is referenced in a few of the new games (so I decided that it is important enough to be placed). However, I understand that this game, which, while Canon, does not have an exact place in the timeline at this moment in time, as there has been no official confirmation by Sega OR Sonic Team. It is because of this that I have added it to the story BEFORE Sonic the Hedgehog 2's events take place. Listed Below are a few reasons as to why.
And I realize that originally magazines were calling it "Sonic 2 CD" and calling it a remake, but I don't ever remember this being officially being stated that it would be a remake. As this was done by a different team, it doesn't mean it should be placed after the others on the Megadrive, I suggest placing it before Sonic 2, as many elements suggest it should be. Tquinnathome1 16:44, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
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Um, actually, Sonic CD was handled by a separate development team, headed by Sonic creator Naoto Ohshima. Initially, as revealed in interviews and magazine clippings, Sonic CD, and Sonic 2 for the Mega Drive/Genesis, Master System and Game Gear were all supposed to be the same game. However, during development, Sonic CD evolved into a vastly different type of game. Eventually, the gameplay of Sonic 2 would be favoured for the future games, but this explains why the theme and handling of Sonic CD are different, as well as the use of Sonic 1's sprites for Sonic. The time posts also had pseudo-3D sprites similar to the Knuckles' Chaotix title screen.
It wasn't because it was to be released before sonic 2. It was supposed to be the same game altogether.
I didn't say Sonic Team had nothing to do with Sonic CD, so thanx for the waste of breath.-- Neofcon 17:47, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
That picture of a ring looks nothing like a ring I've seen in a Sonic game, and doesn't really look too good in the article, in my opinion. Perhaps a picture something like this image could be used? It shows a more "Sonicy" style ring. -- Someone Else's Problem 21:31, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Maybe even an in-game screenshot, perhaps? -- Tails0600 19:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone think that we should make a timeline of Sonic events? Just curious. DeathGodDragon EDGE 00:53, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Although my suggestion of a timeline seems like a good idea, the problem with it is two things: 1. Sonic CD's place in the timeline is still unspecified and could go in 1 of 2 places (before 2 or after S3&K) and 2. Some of the spinoffs are canon as they have references from canon games in them or are referenced by canon games. However...to include these games (Battle, Riders, Rush, Rivals, the Advance series) would prove difficult due to retcons and the time of the games being unspecified. ChromeWulf ZX 22:53, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, there is one now, apparently. It would do good with some clean-up though. Gurko 23:01, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Well for that to happen, there needs to be OFFICIAL statements and not fancruft.-- Neofcon 17:48, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
I tried to create a Sonic-style powerup which may be used in this article. Here is the result. It's not great, but it's svg, so somebody can improve it. BeŻet pl 14:28, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Some of the characters in the main character section arn't really very main. Like the babylon Rouges. Some of them should be in a minor character section.
Thats the case for the ones people still consider main, because they have lesser roles in the new games, like 06.-- Neofcon 13:48, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
So i that case why isnt mighty and Ray in that section. So if there not main anymore shouldnt they be taken off. Even Cream and Big arnt really main character anymore.
That would be simple if fans weren't so determined to feed their ego's of who is/isn't important.-- Neofcon 13:48, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
I just deleted the Babylon Rogues and Tikal from the list. They are certainly NOT major characters in the series as a whole. ( 90.224.69.82 18:12, 1 February 2007 (UTC))
im pretty sure Sonic The Hedgehog came after Sonic Rush. One because Blazes says the iblis trigger, a blue hedgehog can it be true? whitch suggest she does remeber Sonic. This is also suggested when Blaze says Blue Hedgehog????? .
That's what I think also, but there would be some plot holes to work out... ChromeWulf ZX 22:37, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Im not sure what you mean, but if its that Blaze comes from a different dimension in Sonic rush, it could be that Sonic and Blaze just THOUGHT they were from different dimensions.
I dont recall the "could it be true" line in blaze's dialog AT ALL. So I DOUBT you can work around this as proof. And also Sonic Team has had a habit of changing character's roles. The Chaotix are a good example of this. As well as knuckles who went from a natural guardian to idiot. Also Their lack of consistency skills dont help the matter and arguing about what is and not canon is a waste of time. Just enjoy the games. -- Neofcon 00:10, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
I think this page should be moved back. It is about the Sonic the Hedgehog series of games, not about some particular thing that happens to be called "Sonic the Hedgehog" and is a series. ~ Keiji (iNVERTED) ( Talk | Contribs) 11:24, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
In the summary of this edit, I noted that related sections should be grouped together: the article should begin with descriptions of the nature of the games themselves ("Overview", "History", "Common features" and "Music"), then continue into sections about in-universe information ("Plot", "Characters, "Canon", "Chronology"). I think that this grouping of the article into two broad sections (along with that final bit summarising spin-off comics, books and cartoons) is the most logical way to organise it, because it presents a clear distinction between those two ways of looking at the games (as videogames, and as stories).
The section on the gameplay is reasonably good. However, the parts about the in-universe information need a lot of work: they are overly detailed regarding fan debates on what's "canon", and are very repetitive (compare the game summaries under "Chronology" and those under "Plot"). Condensing all this will require some effort. So, for the time being, I've grouped all the in-universe information into a large section entitled "Continuity" (for want of a better term; "Setting" or "Fictional universe" aren't really appropriate because plots and characters are described more than environments). It's very basic at the moment (hence the template messages), but hopefully it'll give a clearer direction for improving the article. -- Nick R Talk 03:58, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Old layout | New layout | ||
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+ | *Continuity | ||
- | *Plot | + | **Plot |
- | *Characters | + | **Characters |
+ | **Canon | ||
- | *Regional variations | + | ***Variations |
+ | ***Chronology | ||
*Spin-offs | *Spin-offs |
It took a little bit of work to find this one, but in the chronolgy, it states that the Sonic 2 "instruction booklet..." and later talks about Sonic 2 coming directly after the events of Sonic 1. I was thinking, shouldn't we put part of the story, and reference page 4, where it is actually referenced indirectly with "This time..."? Tails0600 03:55, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Sonic 3 didn't really keep Sonic 2's sprites when it comes to Sonic, they're very different from one another. Tails is the same though. Sonic 2 sprites and Sonic 1 sprites of Sonic aren't all that different, 2 just has a clearer blue pallette. Gurko 19:56, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
But the sprites should have nothing to do with story, and where a game is put, Somebody should take the stories from each booklet, and see how they match up. Yes, Sonic CD is based after Sonic 1, and I understand that, but we need more evidence that the sprites to show that. That's why I looked in the booklet, because of these changes in storyline. So my next question is: How are we going to prove that Sonic CD comes AFTER the story of Sonic 1?
And, while I'm debating things, in the chronology, It states that Sonic Adventure 2 is the sequel to Sonic Adventure 1. That's true. BUT, it is not a sequel in terms of the story, actually, it is a brad new storyline, about Gerald, Maria, and the ARK.
AND, It also states that Shadow the Hedgehog follows Sonic Heroes' storyline. However, if I remember correctly, Shadow the Hedghog was produced in order to answer questins about Snic Adventure 2, and not necessarily a sequel, per se.
Tails0600
03:07, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Alright, well, you got me in some points, and I've always agreed Sonic CD came before Sonic 2, I didn't, and won't change that, my point is, is that we need some sort of evidence that it is based before Sonic 2, Yes, I do agree about the sprites, and Yes, I do agree with Tails not being there, but, don't you think we should have more evidence? I mean, when people come to Wikipedia, they want facts, as far as I'm concerned, this is just an opinion, I hate to be rude, or to start an argument, but I just think we need more, to back up the point.
One major thing is that Sonic CD was MADE after Sonic 2, and possibly Sonic 3. The story is what I'm trying to get at, though.
Yes, I realize Sonic 1 came first, and the two comments I made about SA2 and StH were for disscussion purposes, just ideas.
Tails0600
20:17, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
How about:
...or something. Last sentence doesn't sound right. I suppose it could be placed in a <ref /> or worked into the article. — DavidH Oz Au 07:29, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
I know the discussion has moved past it already, and that it never mattered much anyway, but here's a comparisment of sprites. Just for kicks, I guess. Gurko 09:43, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
THERE WE GO! That's what I was getting at! We need to put that into the article, proving the fact that Sonic CD comes before Sonic 2. You're brilliant, DavidHOzAu!! And, thanks for the comparison sheet, Gurko, something neat to look at!
And, while I'm thinking of it, the top of the page says that we need to tidy-up the "Other gameplay types" area. I was thinking, maybe the different styles of gameplay should be put under the Spin-offs section, and have a mini-chronology JUST for that section, maybe that will give visitors a little more of an insight about the games. I want to see what the community thinks about this.
Tails0600
20:15, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I agree with that, it shouldn't go into the "Spin-Offs Section." For the chronology, just make it like the main section, but it would be ONLY spin off games. You get what I'm saying, just make it like the Main Chronology. Tails0600 20:15, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, I've played MOST of them, and we can even use info from some of the articles. If we need, I can find more information, andput in my 2 cents worth. Just ASK! Tails0600 23:59, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Alright, I'll edit the chronicles section to include a subsection, which will detail the Other gameplay styles, and then delete that section. Take a look at it, and see what you think. Tails0600 01:03, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and, with the character section, maybe we should get rid of all the characters except Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Cream, Shadow, and Eggman. These are the MAIN characters. Most of the others appear in only one or two games, or have just been created. What do you think? Tails0600 03:44, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
There's already been a Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix, so not doing it for Sonic is kind of unfair. However, I think Sonic would probably die of embarassment if he had to go searching for "Music Keys"... So, instead, Dr. Eggman could stage a dancing tournament, and pretty much all of the Sonic characters would be participating. Your character would have to defeat the others in dance-offs until he or she could finally confront Dr. Eggman and, in one last dance-off, defeat the mad scientist... but then someone else (like Black Doom, Mephiles, Chaos, Metal Sonic, or some other villain) could crash the party... Sounds like a good idea, huh? Luigifan 12:17, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Sounds good, but unfortunately, Sega won't take your idea. It would be fun to see, however! And please not that you should sign your comments with four tildes. Tails0600 22:08, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
You must remember that Mario and Sonic are not rivals anymore, so whatever Mario comes out with doesn't mean Sonic will need to come out with it, too. Another thing about that is that in a Sonic Riders interview, they said that spin-offs that have nothing to do with speed are likely not going to happen. Some fans whine about certain games lacking speed, look what happened to Shadow the Hedgehog. The game focused too much on missions and third-person shooting as opposed to just running, and then it gets criticised. - B.J.
Whether or not Mario and Sonic are rivals has never been a factor for what type of games each other have. Secondly, Shadow had plenty of speed imo (most fans lack the capacity to look past what is presented to see that it still plays like sonic to some degree). Also if spinoffs that have nothing to do with speed are never going to happen, then someone needs to explain Tail's Adventure/Sky Patrol, Spinball, Pinball Party, Sonic Battle, and Mario and Sonic AT THE OLYMPICS (Meter Dash excluded)-- Neofcon 19:31, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Hey, you're right. Why has Sega made game that have nothing to do with speed? They're also making an RPG game and I wonder how that has anything to do with Sonic's speed. That's weird. But anyway, I couldn't understand what you meant by "Whether or not Mario and Sonic are rivals has never been a factor for what type of games each other have" comment, though. - B.J.
"Mario and Sonic are not rivals anymore, so whatever Mario comes out with doesn't mean Sonic will need to come out with it, too." Sonic has never come out with the same types of games around the same time that mario has. Im not counting Sonic Drift as that game plays more like Pole Position rather than Mario Kart. -- Neofcon 21:44, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Duh! In Sonic the Hedgehog, Blaze knew Sonic! How could this be in SR isn't canon!!!!!?
Here's a reason that it IS canon: Let's say that Sonic Rush isn't canon. In STH06, when Mephiles informs Silver and Blaze that a blue hedgehog named Sonic is the Iblis Trigger, Blaze mutters 'blue hedgehog...... as if she is trying to recall something. Later, when Blaze is lost in the past, she says, Iblis Trigger.... blue hedgehog? Can it be?- If she never met Sonic in SR, she wouldn't have said any of that, would she have? :P Also, Sonic appears to know Blaze too, as she is there with Sonic and Silver witnessing the Egg Carrier's explosion, and Sonic never asks her, "who are you? I'm Sonic!" So, now we can talk about it being canon, shall we? ^_^
Thnx!
But that still doesan't explain how in Sonic Rush Eggman Nega and Blaze are from an alternate world while in Sonic the Hedgehog(2006) Blaze is from the future while in Sonic Rivals Eggman Nega is actually Dr. Robotnik's decendent and also from the future. And don't tell me that "Blaze just thought she was in an alternate world in Sonic Rush but was really in the past" as Eggman Nega himself said he was from an alternate universe in Sonic Rush. As for Blaze going "blue hedgehog...." in Sonic the Hedgehog(2006). Well, seeing how Sonic is portrayed as a world-reknowned hero, it is possible that Blaze may just heard about Sonic, thinking of him as little more than a myth until Mephiles told her and Silver about him being the Iblis Trigger. Also, about Sonic say nothing to her in Sonic the Hedgehog(2006), well why didn't he say "hello" to her or ask her how she got back to the past. Michael Mad 13:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
OMG! I am tired of this! Sonic Rush IS Canon! It is very obvious!! Whoever typed up the previous response obviously has NOT played through STH06. If you have, it is fairly- no, completely - obvious! Here's my advice- play through STH06 and see why Sonic Rush is canon. And how do you know that Eggman Nega KNEW exactly where he was? Think about it. -_-
I have played through it. If Eggman Nega didn't come from an alternate universe, then it would contradict the storyline of Sonic Rush. Eggman Nega and Dr. Robotnik's plan was built around making the two parallel universes collapse using the Chaos and Sol emeralds, so that they could make their own. If he came from the future, then that would make the storyline total nonsense(which it is even without the continuity error). Eggman Nega being from an alternate universe would contradict the events of Sonic the Hegdehog(2006) aand Sonic Rivals, which are more than likely canon, making Sonic Rush non-canon. So, what can you say about that? Michael Mad 21:21, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Story: Eggman Nega wants to destroy Sonic in past (EN from future) screws up goes to another dimension. From there he makes contact with Eggman and Eggman comes to that dimension. The Eggmans steal Sol Emeralds from Blaze and go back into the past (in Sonic's dimension.) SONIC RUSH HAPPENS. Blaze soon goes back to her home dimension and EN goes back to future. For whatever reason, Blaze follows EN, which is not uncommon. (For a good guy to chase a bad guy to see what the bg is up to.) That is why Blaze appears in the future in STH06. The end.
You're just creating your own story there, which you can't use to justify your repeated edits to ensure that Sonic Rush appears canon. Face it, Sonic Rush is non-canon. As for my idea of Sonic being a hero being original research, you may be right, but everything this user before has been saying is original research. In fact, how does he know Blaze is remembering Sonic in Sonic the Hedgehog as she goes 'blue hedgehog....'? Michael Mad 18:39, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Michael Mad is MAD! He needs a little stay at the asylum. Here's something- if the reason Blaze recognized the blue hedgehog because Sonic was famous in the future, why didn't Silver?
I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING! What if 'Blaze's dimension' and 'the future' are the same thing? I mean, where Blaze comes from is an alternate timeline, or you could just say it is an alternate dimension! YAY!
Until Sega announces that it is a spin-off, it cannot be considered a spin-off either. And another thing, Sonic Rush is still in the Main Series Template. And the above user is right(but please don't insult other users, there is no excuse), wouldn't Silver have known as well? magiciandude 01:22, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
I found that offensive, non-user. As for Silver, I don't know, but he may just never have heard of Sonic, or perhaps he never really thought of 'the Iblis Trigger' being a world-reknowned hero. Also, even if this non-user's theories to link Sonic the Hedgehog(2006) and Sonic Rush together were plausable, they still do not explain why Blaze wasn't looking after the Sol Emeralds in Sonic the Hedgehog(2006). Michael Mad 18:32, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Oh, just put Sonic Rush in the section. I couldn't be bothered to continue arguing. Oh, and I might as well apologise to the unregistered user who started this discussion, as I have been somewhat cruel in my attempts to prove my point. Sorry. Michael Mad 15:54, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
That's okay. I'm just a huge fan of Sonic Rush and would hate to see it non-canon, for I believe it is canon. ^_^
Does it really MATTER if its canon or not!? Sonic Team =/= Capcom. They dont make any official statements about what is and isn't "canon" AT ALL! So here's a tip. Stop trying to piece everything together and ENJOY THE GAMES FOR WHAT THEY ARE! Sonic isn't some long drawn out anime gaming series like Street Fighter, it's supposed to be a platformer like Mario and story should not be treated as a first priority in enjoying the experience as stories in sonic games are poorly done. besides that, if it isn't canon, who cares? That doesn't mean you have to forget the stories that occured in that particular game. If you enjoyed the story (and half the world has) then good for you, but dont think it clearly DESERVES to be true to the entire storyline at all. IMO the story is very cliche and terrible, centering around "friendship" as it's major focus, while trying to create two Robotnik's? I'd be happy if it weren't true, but on the same case I wont care. Official "story" statements haven't stopped me from playing Street Fighter (whose story is the most ridiculous piece of garbage ive ever read) and as wacky as the sonic universe is, I expect bad stories but thats not what got people in the franchise in 91, it shouldn't start now.
Also [2] USE IT!!-- Neofcon 00:17, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
I noticed that the "other gameplay styles" section has been converted into a bulleted list with brief summaries of the plots. I agree with the move to a separate section further down the page, but not with the conversion to a list. There's nothing that wrong with it, but I think the information better as prose, because it's consistent with the overview of the the main 2D/3D platform games.
If it's kept as a list, something needs to be done about the summaries: judging by the name of the section and the focus of the article, they should really describe the games' gameplay rather than their plots! I've done that for Spinball, adapting the description from the old one in that previous version, but not for any of the others.
The other alternative is to keep it as a list, but change it to a list of genres, rather than game titles ("Racing games" for Sonic Drift/Sonic R/Sonic Riders; "Pinball games" for Spinball and Pinball Party). If it's not changed to prose, I'd much prefer a list of genres than one of games.
What do you think? -- Nick R Talk 02:14, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Blah Blah Blah Blah... *Sonic R (1996) (Saturn) *Sonic 3d blast ---
And so on, see what I mean? Tails0600 20:30, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
So, are Sega's in-house musicians called Wavemaster or Wave Master. It's in the article both ways. Sparticuz 20:18, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Just reading the article, and was wondering if the below section i have Ctrl+V'ed is POV?
"In November 14, 2006, Sonic the Hedgehog, the first Sonic game for the seventh console generation, was released for the Xbox 360 with a PlayStation 3 version in January. Even though Blaze the Cat was brought back and introduced newcomer Silver the Hedgehog it too got mixed views with an average of 46% and it sold only 38,000 copies in its first two weeks. Its main controversies are long loading times, uninteresting mission systems and a few glitches.
In February 2007, Sonic debuted on the Nintendo Wii in a separate entry called Sonic and the Secret Rings. The game was praised for supposedly "returning the series to its roots", however it has been criticised for high difficulty, and a somewhat unappealing story (a loose retelling of the Arabian Nights)."
They are not referenced from any reviews, and mostly I am meaning about the "high diffculty and unappealing story". Sure, it may be tricky, and the stroy aint usual Sonic style, but this seems to be somes opinion? It would be better to reference a site that says this, and then say "that some sources have the opinion of...". Sheeldz 17:58, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Here is some news fopr sonic next appearence http://www.sonicstadium.org/sonicnews/287/
I believe that it is a canon title because of Amys lines in Casino park in Heroes
But Amy never went to Casinopolis in adventure but she does in pinball party but I believe it is non canon now too because Station square was destory
Um...WRONG! I seem to remember Amy in Casinopolis in Sonic Adventure DX.
And you can't say something is non-canon because a place is destroyed. It happened. It is canon. Angry Sun 02:46, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
In my opinion all games occur in the story
Why is there no reference to how Sonic was a Cold War propaganda tactic? (I realize that the game came out after the cold war, but it was in production during the cold war...just listen to my logic) Sonic is blue=America, Dr. Robotnik is red=Communist. American is fast, and beats up bad guy who turns cute woodland creatures into robots.... it's quite obvious imho...
You will most likely be wrong no hard feelings
I thought that it was in the main series Sonicrules2 02:44, 8 May 2007 (UTC)Sonicrules2
Yah know...Sonic Adventure 1 has the same gig because the story doesn't really affect the other games in the series. Just sayin... Neofcon
I think it blongs in the main series Sonicrules2 02:35, 26 May 2007 (UTC)Sonicrules2
I know its difficult to say if Sonic CD is canon or not, and how it is. As I said, I am contacting SEGA for more information. It'll have to wait until tomarrow seeing that they're closed this time of night on a Sunday night. As I said, LEAVE THE ARTICLE THE WAY IT IS! I will edit it appropriately as I get more information. Tails0600 02:40, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Here, think about this:
1. According to the GHZ, Sonic 2 and Sonic CD were both worked on at the same time, Sonic CD t be released first, however, Sonc 2 was released before CD, for internal reasons.
2. According to Wikipedia's article on Sonic CD, the two were going to be the same thing, however, CD ended up being vastly different.
3. Tails was developed in-house by STI. Because of the corporate structure, SOJ may not have seen the images of Tails, or even knew of his creation. It may have been leaked near the end of development, that may be why there is only a brief picture of him.
Now, those were some reasons Tails may not have appeared in this game. Here are reasons for storyline.
1. Some of the Sonic 1 staff worked on it.
2. Very different staffing (The GHZ)
3. Corporate decisions.
4. Machine capabilites.
And millions more. I'm still waiting for an official response, so hang in there! Tails0600 03:40, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
UPDATE Still no word yet, will post their reply as soon as I get it. Tails0600 23:25, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Could you also ask them if Sonic Rush is canonical? magiciandude ( Talk) ( review) 20:44, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Well...I am curious as to why certain characters are never used again, such as Mighty and Nack. Most people hint at Naoto Oshima's leave from sonic team as an indication, but if they still use him in comics then whats the dealio? I was pretty upset with the absence in heroes. Hell i'd be surprised if they had a good reason for not making tails or knuckles go "super" as before.
Neofcon
Yeah, but Sonic is also a traveler and manages to make an appearance everytime, along with the rest of the cast (yeah I know its not fair to compare but you know all the characters are travelers, or else they wouldn't end up in so many weird cities (soleana anyone?). Now Bean and Bark I dont think are ever coming back, they were just two empty slots to fill in and were also in Fighting Vipers as rejects. Nack the Weasel needs a comeback imo and I doubt ray is on anyone's mind at the time.
You know...I have a much bigger question. What in god's name was the actual point of FIRING the original voice actors without notification? Neofcon
Sorry, nothing yet. I'm trying to get into contact with Yuji Naka,, or someone from Sonic Team. Hopefully by Tuesday I'll have something. Tails0600 19:06, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Yuji Naka left the team dude Neofcon
Here's another request, ask if Sonic and the Secret Rings is canonical or not. magiciandude ( Talk) ( review) 00:11, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
UPDATE-PLEASE READ! Alright, thanks for your patience, I'm sorry it took so long, but it doesn't help too much when there's a weekend around the corner, and with Memorial Day, that messed everything up. The first thing is that I successfully talked to the director of Sonic CD, Naoto Ōshima. I will be getting a copy of the e-mail I received on the Internet by Friday. NO, I CANNOT RELEASE E-MAIL ADDRESSES!!!! Anyway, now that that's out of the way, YES, Sonic CD is canon. The main reason is of course the fact the Amy Rose appears in almost every game AFTER Sonic CD. This also ties into why she likes Sonic so much, starting with Sonic Adventure, and progressing to Sonic 2006. The second reason is the fact of Metal Sonic's appearance within this game. (RANDOM THOUGHTS)Now, he doesn't appear again until Sonic Heroes, but the reason for this is still unknown. (END) Finally, Tails appears in only a screen shot of the game, because as I rumored before, SOJ did not see the design of Tails until after Sonic 2 was released, where Sonic CD was released a year later. Tails was not needed within Sonic CD so much as Amy was. So there you have it, Sonic CD is canon, and, it can also logically be assumed that it occurs AFTER Sonic 1, and BEFORE Sonic 2. I still am not aware of how true that statement may be. Once again, I will post a copy of the letter on my website as soon as possible. Tails0600 19:19, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Metal Sonic was in Sonic Adventure 2 y'know.
Angry Sun
19:22, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
As a playable character in two player. NOT officially a part of pf the SA2 story. As for the email, well we all know CD had to have happened because the characters appear in recent titles, but the question still remains if it takes place between 1 & 2 or not. Neofcon
Im not going insane, I apologize if I was a bit abrupt and blunt about it. Just anxious thats all. Neofcon
He was in Sonic Adventure in Story Mode. He was in a tube. Angry Sun 23:20, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
A.S., thats called a "cameo" appearance, if the character has no actual involvement with the story, it's a cameo appearance. Neofcon
Well actually I think he was important. Eggman was obviously rebuidling him we he went berserk and set the plot for Sonic Heroes. Tails. Could you ask him why Sonic didn't get a Graphical Update like Robotnik did? Angry Sun 02:24, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
"I think" =/= Fact. That sums up the chronology of the sonic continuity just about (no offense to those who made it, then again they will be offended). Point is he was a cameo/Easter Egg. Much like the Tornado 1 in Sonic Advance. Neofcon
Alright, First off, my server is having problems right now, any information I can put online will be on my website shortly. Now, I also regret to inform everyone that it has been requested I do NOT post any manuscripts or actual conversation. Sorry. I wish I could, but as a website owner, I'm bound to confidentiality. Now, as for any other person I talk to, they have a right to say whether or not the manuscript should be posted. What I can do, is use "snippets", or anything that may be appropriate or useful as facts, but once again, I cannot post the whole manuscript. Tails0600 01:22, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Alright, in case you don't see my point at the bottom of the page, here's what I've got to say about Sonic CD's timeline placement. The game has to happen after the first 3 sonic games(the third being 'Sonic 3 and Knuckles'). This is because of Metal Sonic. As you notice, he's much sleeker, faster, and more powerful then the Mecha Sonics in the first three games. If you've played the games, you'll notice how bulky and slow the Mechas are in the first three compared to Metal. It would make no sense for a man of 300 I.Q to switch to a subpar design. -- Superbub 21:38, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't want to start any but dude be quiet! Tails already found out that Sonic CD is canon. It takes place ater Sonic 2. The Game Gear Games ARE NOT CANON! So get that out of your head. Angry Sun 07:03, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Lets review...did he DENY it was canon? No. Did he MENTION the game gear games in this paragraph? No, has there been ANY indication of where anyone detailed the placement of Sonic CD? No, so angry sun, you still have no information to your theories, you still are shoving your opinions as fact down everyone's throat, and you are still wrong about the chronology (if any) of sonic the hedgehog, so if you would be so kind as to HUSH until further notice. Neofcon
Thank you Neofcon. I seriously don't get what your problem is, Angry Sun. All I was saying was that CD should come AFTER the first three games. I never denied CD's canonicity, and I definetely NEVER even remotely mention the game gear games. I do not like the game gear games in the slightest, so I don't even consider them sonic games.
Next time, read my paragraph before you sart complaining;)-- Superbub 15:29, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
I think the Other gameplay styles section should be changed into a section devoted to the "Other Games" of the series, not just the ones whose status in the Chronology is unknown and whose gameplay is not a standard platformer. It's the Sonic series article, so all the games should be mentioned somewhere. 208.101.130.232 17:05, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Good Idea. Neofcon
Here's what I've got to say about Sonic CD's timeline placement. The game has to happen after the first 3 sonic games(the third being 'Sonic 3 and Knuckles'). This is because of Metal Sonic. As you notice, he's much sleeker, faster, and more powerful then the Mecha Sonic's in the first three games. If you've played the games, you'll notice how bulky and slow the Mecha's are in the first three compared to Metal. It would make no sense for a man of 300 I.Q to switch to a subpar design. -- Superbub 21:39, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
I have made a basic page for the upcoming RPG ( Untitled Sonic RPG), because I was surprised to see it wasn't done already. I'm unsure what templates it fits into, so I've left it alone for now. I'll now link to it from other articles in order to give it more publicity. Philtrauferson 15:08, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
well it be made for the game cube
The iOS version of Sonic CD has a Metacritic rank of 93, which is relevant since is the highest rank of any Sonic game in that web. However, every time I write that in the aggregate review scores section (with its reference of course), it gets deleted. -- Pablotorre13 ( talk) 20:51, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
Yes, when I add that in the past I did it with a different IP address because my PC was formated and I forgot the password. Anyway,I think we can either removing all re-releases and ports and keeping only the original releases, or keeping everything, but is pointless removing only the iOS version of Sonic CD and keeping the other re-release of the game (PC,PS3,Xbox360) as well as the several re-releases and ports of other Sonic games. Also, keep in mind that the 2011 re-release of Sonic CD is not a simple port, but an enchanced version with many unique features (Retro Engine, widescreen, 60fps, Tails playable, ect.) unlike the re-releases of Sonic 1 and 2, which are only ports.-- Pablotorre13 ( talk) 08:51, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
A couple of times, I have tried to properly change the sales figures of Sonic and the Secret Rings(2.43 million) and Sonic Unleashed (3.96 million). They used to be there for a long time, but now they are changed in a couple of hours. I now realize my mistake: I forgot a source. Then I realized that I didn't know how to put in literary sources, which is where I got the info. I hope that you can put it in. Here is the needed information, which applies for both: it was written by Chris Schilling in the "3D Platformers" section on page 109 of Guinness World Records: Gamer's Edition 2012.Please respond if I need anything else. Thank you. -Mumbai0618. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.161.144.217 ( talk) 16:19, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
As you requested I did not one but both of the things you wanted. If you go to my YouTube channel (also called Mumbai0618) you'll see the video "Sonic and the Secret Rings and Sonic Unleashed Sales". It contains both. If it cannot be used please tell me. Thank you. -Mumbai0618
First of all, SexyKick, I was only responding to Sergecross, and he also said I could give proof of the source. Continuing on, I know the words are illegible, but what is said is what is on the text. If you can't hear what is said, I could put the text on the description if that's okay.
Since Sonic 4 has been released for mobile platforms like iOS and Android, do you think both Episodes should be included under the "Handheld Games" section of the Sonic games template as well as the "Console Games" section? 68.228.177.224 ( talk) 01:24, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
According to http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=sonic+generations
Sonic Generations sales are 2.12 million in all world and in all plataforms, please update the article with this information
Also Sonic Unleashed has sold 4.38 million copies source: http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Sonic+Unleashed — Preceding unsigned comment added by RCRDT21 ( talk • contribs) 17:26, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
This is a discussion about the header image...
Anybody want to keep the image there Keep or Remove. — Preceding
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I agree with sergecross, but if there is a more modern logo that does have the main character, it would be ok to use that aswell. Lucia Black ( talk) 19:41, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
I've noticed a user keeps on re-adding games with no sales figures into the sales chart. This strikes me as rather pointless, and even detrimental. I don't think we need to clutter an already pretty good sized chart with games that we don't have any figures for. Any thoughts? Sergecross73 msg me 14:13, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
The current logo is all we need for the series. I say we keep the logo! That picture in the infobox is the original game's title screen! 22dragon22burn ( talk) 02:48, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
How is Sonic Shuffle like Mario Party? and dont say its because its a party game because that be stupid. Speedy X 77 ( talk) 16:01, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
its not that i want to remove all comparisons to Nintendo/Mario from Sonic articles its because Sonic Shuffle is not like Mario Party like i said on Sonic R Sonic Shuffle is not like Mario Party and Mario Party is not like Sonic Shuffle so just stop ok. PS Happy Holidays! :) Speedy X 77 ( talk) 01:07, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Even heard of Crash Bash, it's also a party game -- 178.235.183.165 ( talk) 17:18, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Question: Why do we have Sonic Colors and every game after that in a separate aggregate scores category? Is the column we have too big? Is it because of the game de-listing? Or something else? Personally I find no point in the fact it is separate, and think we should just add it with the others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.138.148.222 ( talk) 07:07, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. :) · Salvidrim!· ✉ 05:39, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
– The disambiguation page has just been tagged as one that should be changed to a Disambiguation concept page. The idea is valid, except for one tiny detail - we already have such a page. The video game series is clearly primary topic, and even the only other possible primary topic is part of the game series. This will put the primary topic at the title it deserves. Ego White Tray ( talk) 05:01, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
I've got two links for Sonic 06's sales:
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/70441/sonic-the-hedgehog/
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/70440/sonic-the-hedgehog/
I'm not sure if they're accurate or not. Are they, and if they are, can we use them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.138.148.222 ( talk) 22:05, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
I have to question the inclusion of All-Stars Racing and Transformed in the sales chart. I mean, those fall much more under the banner of the Sega Superstars series, not the Sonic franchise in general. I think it would be more appropriate to have those moved to the Sega Superstars Series page rather than listed here, or just removed outright. Opinions? -- 136.181.195.25 ( talk) 14:34, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
I've never come across such outrasges against our favorite hedgehog! May I ask to help direct me to some areas, gentlemen? User:06Lover Neo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.39.178.156 ( talk) 18:23, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Currently, everything that is known about the new Sonic TV show comes from Sega's brief blog post on 2 October 2013. Sega stated that they aren't even sure of the title of the show. Wikipedia requires diverse coverage from a wide variety of sources. Most, if not all, of the sources out there are simply relaying Sega's blog announcement. I was inclined to nominate for deletion, but after some thought, merging the content here as a section under "Animation" may be more feasible until more information about the show becomes available. v/r, Michaelzeng7 ( talk) 00:09, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
In a 1995 interview with Edge, Shigeru Miyamoto was asked about his thoughts on the Sonic series (among many other things), to which he replied: "Among Mario's imitations, Sonic is a good one." This may be irrelevant, since Miyamoto isn't much of a gamer and he isn't a critic either, but it might be an amusing anecdote. I can't say I have thought very deeply about whether this is sufficiently notable for Wikipedia, but I thought I'd mention it here. TheTimesAreAChanging ( talk) 01:42, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
I propose that Green Hill Zone be merged to Sonic the Hedgehog (series)#Common features. As mentioned on its talk page, I believe the article lacks significant coverage in multiple reliable, independent sources ( ?) but is worth including on this page instead of deleting outright. The most significant sources that cover the level in more than a sentence talk about a papercraft version or an office prank involving the level, which I wouldn't call significant coverage. If analysis of the level itself from reliable sources were to appear, I'd reconsider, but we've had this conversation open for a while now between the talk page and the WT:VG conversation. czar ♔ 01:05, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
The date for the Sonic movie is incorrect. Needs to be 2014, not 2004. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Silentwulf ( talk • contribs) 22:37, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
A general cleanup of grammar and misused words should be conducted. For example, under Sonic Boom, the word "preclude" (to prevent) is used where "precede" (to go ahead of) would make more sense. 199.27.195.217 ( talk) 13:57, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
I'm a little concerned about the lack of images of characters other than Sonic in this article. Something like the full cast, such as the Generations screenshot I added to the character article, isn't necessary, but the current sampling of images kinda gives the impression that Sonic has been the only significant playable character or, even less accurate (and more distasteful), that all games in the series are defined as such by him being the protagonist. Does anyone have any ideas? I'd honestly be fine with swapping the Green Hill Zone one for something else to represent the Classic era - say, playing as Tails or Knuckles in S3&K, or even a Knuckles' Chaotix screenshot - especially because there are, like, five Wikipedia articles with Green Hill screenshots.
On a related note (and fulfilling these two things could overlap), I don't think the various eras of the series are adequately represented. Do we really need a pic of Sonic being Super Sonic when the only relevant visual information is that he turns yellow (not my idea of an adequate fair-use justification)? Regardless, I think screenshots from (1) a Modern-era game such as '06 or Colors and (2) one of the Advance or Rush entries would be helpful for an understanding of the directions the Sonic formula has gone in. Tezero ( talk) 06:11, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
mega drive because mega drive is the correct name used everywhere except the usa also it sound better Thetruthhhh ( talk) 12:38, 19 December 2014 (UTC)thetruthhhh
I checked our sales, and Sonic is 8th best selling, two slots below the listed 6th place in the first paragraph of this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.53.72.233 ( talk) 05:57, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
New Sonic game released 2015 on Wii U, PS4 and Xbox One. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.20.206.161 ( talk) 01:08, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
The nubmer of Sonic the Hedgehog sales is wrong. http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Sonic+the+hedgehog&publisher=&platform=&genre=&minSales=0&results=200 The first Sonic game sold out in 4.34 million copies, not 15. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.100.144.79 ( talk) 01:17, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Sonic Heroes: 2.96 milliom copies (not 1.73) Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games: 5.08 (not 11.31) Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games: 4.51 (not 6.53) Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games: 3.68 (not 2.7 million) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.100.144.79 ( talk) 01:24, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
In the "Reception" section, the chart claims that Sonic CD has a 100.00% rating on Gamerankings.com. I know that is not true because Super Mario Galaxy has the highest rating, but I couldn't edit it so... yeah. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.217.212.111 ( talk) 01:45, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. This has been around for a long time now, and has also been muddied by the fact that the nature of the source article has been changed during the request; it is now a clear cut disambig, and that means that some of the earlier comments may or may not be still relevant. Given this lack of clarity, and the fact that there are quite a few opposes saying that the series is not primary, I don't think we can declare a definite consensus to move at this time. This does not, of course, prevent a fresh new RM, if people wish to initiate one. ( non-admin closure) — Amakuru ( talk) 10:20, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
– (This is technically a relist; the original rationale is below this comment.) Now that Sonic the Hedgehog has been converted to a disambiguation page, this discussion is to move the series article to the ambiguous title (designating it the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC), and moving the disambiguation Sonic the Hedgehog to Sonic the Hedgehog (disambiguation) (For this proposed move, I am neutral.) Steel1943 ( talk) 00:15, 24 March 2015 (UTC)