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After reading the article, these are my impressions: 1- The second paragraph (first sentence) is filled with technical jargon. I don't know what it's saying. It's unclear how the last sentence of that paragraph relates. 2- The second paragraph of "theories" hints at a story... something about a transalation of Simmel's work. Could you elaborate on that? It sounds interesting. 3- Do you feel that Piaget belongs in this list? Jesserjames ( talk) 02:04, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
The article says socialization can refer to nationalization in political science. This is not entirely true. As an example, I can take Emma Goldman who writes in There is no communism in Russia (1935): "When a certain thing does not belong to an individual or group, it is either nationalized or socialized. If it is nationalized, it belongs to the state; that is, the government has control of it and may dispose of it according to its wishes and views. But when a thing is socialized, every individual has free access to it and use it without interference from anyone.
In Russia there is no socialization either of land or of production and distribution. Everything is nationalized; it belongs to the government, exactly as does the post-office in America or the railroad in Germany and other European countries. There is nothing of Communism about it."
Please comment on this. Kricke 19:27, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
would people who watch this page please review the article, Early infanticidal childrearing, which makes many claims about anthropology and about non-Western societies? I was once involved in a flame-war with another editor, and it would be inappropriate for me to do a speedy delete or nominate the page for deletion. More important, I think others need to comment on it. I engaged in a detailed exchange recently with one other editor here, on the talk page; you may wish to review the discussion but it is getting involuted and I ask that you comment separately. Thanks, Slrubenstein | Talk 12:32, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
This section has been moved to its own article, as this article refers to socialisation in the proper social scientific sense of the word, and forms a crucial part of the sociology project. "Animal socialisation" is an appropriation of the term, when what's really meant is something more akin to animal training or Pavlovian conditioning.-- Tomsega ( talk) 23:59, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
This section needs to be more balanced. In particular, it is my impression that the scientific consensus (outside of politically and feministically influenced circles) is that gender roles are largely inborn, with socialization only governing details. 94.220.254.157 ( talk) 00:53, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
This article is quite turstworthy, quite biased, somewhat complete, somewhat well-written,and quite accurate. There is no information on the modern usage of socialization and how it works today. Agampa ( talk) 16:11, 5 February 2012 (UTC)agampa
I deleted the subsection in Theories titled Developmental Socialization because there was no reference with the one sentence explanation, I could not find any information bbb supporting this theory of Socialization, and because this describes socialization in general rather than a specific theory. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amyekankiewicz ( talk • contribs) 19:00, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Section 5, itself very short and needy of additions, altogether sounds unprofessional and not in fitting with WP standards. 95.14.204.154 ( talk) 23:45, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
User Toddst1 has just made a blank and redirect of article sofalizing to point here. That article has content in its history page that people might want to look at. Diego ( talk) 13:43, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
@ U3964057: Some time in future I want to work on Legal socialization which is defined as under. I will appreciate comments on how much Legal socialization topic will get related to present Socialization article. or we will need to work for an independent article for Legal socialization.
Legal socialization is the process through which individuals acquire attitudes and beliefs about the law, legal authorities, and legal institutions. This occurs through individuals' interactions, both personal and vicarious, with police, courts, and other legal actors. To date, most of what is known about legal socialization comes from studies of individual differences among adults in their perceived legitimacy of law and legal institutions, and in their cynicism about the law and its underlying norms.2 adults' attitudes about the legitimacy of law are directly tied to individuals' compliance with the law and cooperation with legal authorities Refs: [1]
Mahitgar ( talk) 05:06, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. My primary assessment was similar to yours but I felt second opinion will help in this regard. Thanks and seasons greetings.
Mahitgar ( talk) 04:21, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
Presently article's Social institutions section' fifth bullet point refers to "Legal Systems". I feel instead inclusion of Legal socialisation will give better justice to legal aspect. So please do suggest a way of an inclusion of Legal socialisation concept in the article. Thanks Rgds
Mahitgar ( talk) 04:26, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Socialization is a term used by sociologists, social psychologists, anthropologists, political scientists, and educationalists to refer to the lifelong process of inheriting and disseminating [breathe here] norms, customs, values and ideologies, providing an individual with the skills and habits necessary for participating within their own society.
Eventually the FOG index catches up to you on length alone.
Socialization is a term used by social scientists to refer to the lifelong process of inheriting and disseminating norms, customs, values and ideologies, providing an individual with the skills and habits necessary for participating within their own society.
Have we really lost anything that couldn't be footnoted further down in the lead?
Also, "necessary for participating within their own society" is some weird, impossible combination of euphemistic and tautological and false—an idiom beloved and perfected by high school textbooks everywhere—that seems a good half an idea short of such a long word bus.
Closer to the truth would be "necessary to engage a complex social environment in a sophisticated way".
Because extreme-spectrum autists still "participate". It's not the participation that conditional, its the sophistication of the participation that's conditional.
In fact, 100% of the text not contained within the lists is basically cliche. It's a white bread sandwich packed with so many nutritious ingredients it won't fit in your mouth. — MaxEnt 15:39, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
I propose that Indoctrination be merged into Socialization. The word "indoctrination" as it is modernly used (and as used in its current article) is a perjorative expression for some types of socialization. This has made it difficult for editors to come up with a quality, and NPOV article. I think it would be better to merge it with this high-quality article. Redddogg ( talk) 18:37, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
I'm sure WP has lots of articles on education, socialization, etc. "Indoctrination" seems to be when someone is educated or socialized in something we don't like. Nobody says we are indoctrinated to wash our hands, brush our teeth, look both ways before crossing the street, etc. Redddogg ( talk) 21:51, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
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I was dismayed to find no mention that socialization is dialectical, and not the uni-directional absorption into a social group or organization. Few sociologists discuss this, which is part of the problem, and neglect to mention how social institutions change when new generations are socialized. 50.4.132.185 ( talk) 01:56, 11 April 2023 (UTC)