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https://cult-ural.ru/%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8-%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8-%D0%B2-%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B1%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B5/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.92.31.29 ( talk) 21:06, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
I can't find references for this, but Ray's Food Place used this as a logo in the 1970s and 1980s. I'm not sure why they stopped. There are still some stores with windows with the ghost image of these logos on them. http://www.ckmarket.com/ 67.169.49.52 ( talk) 05:59, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
Ken Nordine's Cover for his 1957 jazz/jive talk album Word Jazz featured a strikingly similar, yet more stylized version of a talking happy face, which may have inspired the canonical version. Spikeysnack ( talk) 03:13, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
The smiley article suggests a Richard Ball invented the smiley face. The Harvey Ball page suggests it was Harvey Ball, as does his own page. Harvey Ball is also mentioned here. It can't be both, can it? ElectricRay ( talk) 11:26, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Reads like an ad. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.28.136.12 ( talk) 05:27, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for having the explanation of Japanese smileys. That cleared up a lot of things for a lot of people, including me. ;-)
Add more smiley face pictures seriously the page is boring! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.253.43.146 ( talk) 20:36, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
I wanted to provide some evidence to buttress my assertion that only the most basic smileys are really used with any frequency. I thought I would try performing a Google Groups search on some of the smileys, but apparently the punctuation marks confuse Google, as searches on
":-)"
and
";-)"
simply produce blank pages (no hit counts).
Are there any Google experts who know more about Google's search syntax and know how to ask Google to search for colon, hyphen, close-paren? Dpbsmith 23:14, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Doesn't this article duplicate a lot of material from emoticon. Look at the list of smilies, for example. Should this material be moved to emoticon or vice-versa? Should the two be merged and emoticon be made a redirect to Smiley? I hate to have two seperate articles that discuss the same thing differently. — Frecklefoot 17:17, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I'm sure I remember the smiley being one of the major images attached to the rave/ecstacy culture in Britain in the early 90s. I think it was common (might still be) to have a smiley on one side of an E pill. -- Jim Regan 22:30, 26 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Isn't there also a Muppet named "Guy Smiley"? I don't know much of his history, so I can't really contribute a lot, but if memory serves... - - Gingerkitteh
Why did they put the ☻ and ☺ in ASCII? See Code page 437 for what I mean. -- Abdull 20:35, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
An editor who wrote on Smiley (disambiguation)
may have meant what they said, that "graemlin" is another word for
smiley, in the article's sense, but this is not clear, especially since that would mean it belonged in
Smiley, not where they put it in
Smiley (disambiguation). Of course, whatever they meant, it needs verification.
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00:30, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Is this really necessary? http://hodja.wordpress.com/2006/02/22/muhammed-smiley/
Read this BBC article - it says many people claim to have created / propagated / designed the smiley. Is there any concrete evidence for the statements made in the article? - Bnitin 02:23, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Can the Wingdings smiley be included? It is the letter J in Wingdings font.
Someone made a request at the Wikipedia: Abuse reports page to deal with the spamming by inhunt.com, although it was in poor and incorrect form. I took a look at the spamming that has taken place here and on the Emoticon article, and decided to make a proper abuse report, seen here. In my little investigation, I saw that this spamming was taking place from multiple IPs, which were registered to many places. Also, some of these IPs appeared to be making worthy contributions. I don't really have a clue if this is a bot or not, or what it exactly is doing to achieve this high rate of spamming. This is because I lack any advanced knowledge in the area of computers or internet. So if someone a little more knowledgable could take a look at this, and add a better sypnosis to my abuse report, that would be greatly appreciated by all. -- Reaper X 19:04, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
"Smiley is another name for curb stomping. In Australia, people commonly refer to it as a smiley due to the scars that are left after the act has occurred"
People commonly refer to it as a smiley? I am Australian, and I have never heard of this being used in this context. The only use of the word "smiley" is the same as everywhere else - the smiley face. Also this statement makes it sound as if curb stomping is a popular practice, as it supposedly has its own slang terminology - which it certainly is not - here or anywhere else. 203.51.151.156 13:33, 28 June 2006 (UTC)Nathan
Someone found this article to be spam: Extensive Smiley :-) article I must say that I was really surprised to see someone think that way, I have worked my a** off to prepare article for the net.
Please review the link. Thanks, Borislav Dopudja 02:44, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Should we limit these to those that appear to be smiling? Pendragon39 17:10, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
do we really need this? 206.248.139.177 07:22, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
I was thinking the same, and went to read the talk-page to see if someone had discussed it. I don't think it adds anything to the article, and since I'm evidently not the only one, I have removed it. Alatius 19:51, 12 August 2007 (UTC) You should make cooler smiley faces on the computer other than :) this one! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.253.43.146 ( talk) 20:38, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
The Straight Dope article seems pretty authoritative. It has no mention of Franklin Loufrani. It also places the Spain brothers' creation at 1970, which would predate the current mention of Franklin Loufrani. The Franklin Loufrani paragraph is also unsourced. If no one can provide any further sourcing, I move that we delete this paragraph, which may well be self-serving advertising. Notmyrealname 20:54, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Since no source seems to be available, I'm deleting the following passages:
"However, Franklin Loufrani of London-based company SmileyWorld says he came up with the image in 1971 for a newspaper promotion in which he displayed his icon to highlight good news. He then started developing products using this logo as a brand. The logo and the name are trademarked by Franklin Loufrani across 100 countries for most classes of goods and services. His master licensee Smileyworld is developing products with licensed partners in industries such as clothing, accessories, home textiles, food and confectionery, stationery, toys, gift items, housewares, publishing and fragrances. In 1997, his son Nicolas Loufrani started developing hundreds of variations of the Smiley logo with many different moods and categories such as weather, occupations, countries, animals, objects and so forth. He also developed a character based version with a body, arms and legs. They were the first non-text based emoticons available to use on the web. citation needed"
"In 2005 Nicolas and Franklin Loufrani created the Smiley World association, a charity part of the SOS group and wholly financed by sales of Smiley products developed by Smileyworld Ltd and Smiley industries Ltd." Notmyrealname 16:54, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
The article said "The two original text smileys, (-: to indicate a joke and )-: to mark things that are not a joke", and also "The reverse, or right-handed, smileys, :) have also gained popularity for being a way to avoid having text smileys converted to graphical representations".
According to http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~sef/Orig-Smiley.htm the original was in fact right-handed. Also, as far as I know, most programs will convert the right-handed but not left-handed versions. I've changed tho article to reflect this. ddickison 15:01, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
this is off the wall, but do europeans tend to draw smiley's with a nose, as opposed to americans? for instance :-) vs. :)
Hey, you guys are using a trademark without previous consent... OK, just kidding. Anyway, it's funny, but it's actually true. I think the "Frowny(tm)" episode deserves a section in this article. ( http://www.beachbrowser.com/Archives/eVoid/Febuary-2001/Trademark-Frownie-Emoticon.htm) Any vote against? Eumedemito ( talk) 04:39, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
_ _ This entry has no clear meaning; perhaps it is encyclopedic when restated & de-PoV'd by someone who knows something about Nirvana:
For starters, presumably it could better begin
(Note that a band can be "they" when its members all act individually on behalf of the band, as in "they played 'Old Zip Coon'", but releasing a record they played on, or adopting a finshed graphic that some of them initially conceived, is not such a situation: the band, whether incorporated or legally established as a partnership or not, does (not do) things (thru the agency of suits at the label or the artist who renders the graphic and a band member who oversees that artist), beyond or without individual acts by the members.) It also probably should not go after an older one,
as its contributor placed it, but immediately before it.
_ _ The whole section suffers, as these sections tend to, from
At the least, this discussion of the (possibly copyright or trademark protected) material sounds like exactly the sort of thing that the "discussion" provision in
Fair use was intended to promote: the wording conveys almost nothing about the differences, in the absence of the images. So add suitably small images. Chronological ordering is also usually helpful (but in practice requires in the long term the addition of dates of introduction).
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05:14, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Topic starts off with Ball... Who is he? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Preroll ( talk • contribs) 15:17, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
It looks like more than half of the article is devoted to where smileys appear or have appeared. This is out of control and must be pared down. Any thought before I remove most of it? Asher196 ( talk) 02:36, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Is this section really necessary? Seems more like trivia for the movie itself... 68.54.90.179 ( talk) 22:02, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
The External Links section of the article seems to be getting too big, unwieldy and spammy. Is the section really needed, as is?
No body mentioned Pilot Abilene's use of a disfigured smiley as his insignia? ( JoeLoeb ( talk) 23:19, 11 June 2009 (UTC))
If you look at the history it's just vandalisme, revert, vadalisme, revert... We need to get this cleaned up and protected. Any good English writers here? - Cy21( talk) 22:59, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
In 1963 Samantha Nicole Turner, an American commercial artist, was employed by an advertising company to create a happy face to be used on buttons. His rendition, with bright yellow background, dark oval eyes, and creases at the sides of the mouth, was to become the most iconic version.[4][5]
In 1967, Ball's design was used in an advertising campaign for Seattle-based University Federal Savings & Loan. This was later used when the man behind this campaign, David Stern, ran for Seattle Mayor in 1993.[5]
As quoted, either Samantha has become a masculine name or the pronoun His in the second sentence is wrong. The opening of the second paragraph refers to the design as Ball's design, yet there is no prior mention of Ball in the text of the article (although the picture captions do refer to Harvey Ball). Therefore I believe the name Samantha Nicole Turner must be wrong and should be Harvey Ball. I am going to rewrite the paragraph beginning "In 1963..." and I think the next paragraph should be expanded as well. Anewcharliega ( talk) 00:55, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
All I know about the subject is that you can do some crazy things on your keyboard that some people who may not know about. like this @:-) is a guy wearing a turban. Who knew how to do that? Twizzlergirl ( talk) 01:07, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
What is the source of the infamous three-eye smiley? A comic book? or what? --16:11, 23 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mizanthrop ( talk • contribs)
i don't understand ... if the original is public domain, how did Franklin Loufrani trademark it? anyone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.175.57.184 ( talk) 04:15, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
It was actually most often called a "Happy face" in the 1970s; not sure the term "smiley" came into use until after the rise of computer emoticons... AnonMoos ( talk) 12:53, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
We should talk about its popularization at the hands of hippies. -- 173.3.154.230 ( talk) 23:08, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
[[Word Jazz] featured a strikingly similar, yet more sylized version of a talking happy face, which may have inspired the canonical version. Spikeysnack ( talk) 03:13, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
So I just searched "copyright smiley" (without quotes) in google books. I gave up on page 25. The only relevant sources were the ones I list here. All of them say that Ball was the creator or that he is credited as the creator. A few of them talked about copyright; they said that a) Ball forgot to copyright the smiley face or b) the smiley face is not copyrighted or c) it is in the public domain. I found no sources that give a different creator, and no sources that say that the smiley face is copyrighted.
books that credit Ball as the creator of smiley
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Newspaper articles do say that there is a dispute about the origin, like this BBC article [1] and Guardian article says that a kid's program used "a crude smiley" but says that it was Ball who forgot to copyright it [2], the New York Times simply credits Ball in his obituary [3].
-- Enric Naval ( talk) 21:09, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
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I have some smileys from the late 60's which are not circular on the outside but a sort of blobby flower-like outline. Are these smileys or something else ? Eregli bob ( talk) 16:11, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
These pieces of clipart ain't them. Here's Ball and his; here is the CUR one; the Wal-Mart battle probably deserves one of theirs. All have much more pleasing dimensions that what we're seeing now.
The Straight Dope article linked above also points out that there are known earlier smilies from the '30s we're not discussing and "Have a Happy Day" precedes the '70s by a decade. — LlywelynII 11:05, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
I found a very reliable source that is very relevant to this article. It is from the Smithsonian website.
Who Really Invented the Smiley Face? -- Mr. Guye ( talk) 23:36, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
Seems to me that no discussion about the "Smiley Face" and the history thereof is complete without an honorable mention to Forrest Gump. Rghollenbeck ( talk) 17:42, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
The link for reference 3 is broken. Also, what about including the smileys that have the triangle shaped eyes? For example: "^_^" Most people would agree that these convey even happier emotions than the typical circular eyes. There also is a typo here: "This suggestions took a symbol used predominantly marketing and it..." It should be "used predominantly in" Ayebeesung ( talk) 14:28, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
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Hi, I'm coming here to explain my change
[4] in a form longer than an edit summary. For some reason, I have never liked the "Smiley" in this article. I can remember not liking it before I even knew how to edit Wikipedia. To me, it just looks really ugly. I understand that this is a subjective decision, but there are good reasons to use the new smiley besides. The new smiley is more true in appearance to its 1970's history, and due to its smaller, closer together eyes and wider smile it appears much kinder. If you decide to revert my change, I hope you can find the time to reply to this thread. Thank you
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It seems that there is a lot of confusion about Smileys vs. Emojis vs Emoticons, and I really think this line doesn't make sense:
"As the digital age evolved the need for smileys that were easily understood across all cultures gave birth to the emoji."
It references an article that requires WSJ subscription, so I didn't read it, but smileys existed before they were used inside texts, and emojis are inside texts - and smileys are generally understood across all cultures. I am considering to delete this sentence, because I consider it meaningless and misleading. Any objections? Dybdahl ( talk) 11:34, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Update: I will delete it now. Dybdahl ( talk) 07:00, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
Chicken and chips is a British dish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.64.225.176 ( talk) 10:47, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
You may want to include a muslim version aswell:
*) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:FE0:C700:2:A1D4:C8B2:A471:90DB ( talk) 04:04, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
When you say 'The Watchmen comic series logo' in a caption there are some other pictures that could be used. Like the actual comic book cover. -Thanks Ooh Saad ( talk) 13:31, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Going to try to get rid of it. This content belongs on the Watchment wiki page, not here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.130.46.152 ( talk) 15:45, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
> "In November 2001, and later, smiley emojis inside the actual chat text was adopted by several chat systems, including Yahoo Messenger."
I could be mistaken, but I believe AIM and Windows Messenger both implemented emojis prior to November 2001. — C M B J 01:54, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
The article referencing ("The Man Who Owns the Smiley Face". Vice. 10 August 2017. Retrieved 24 January 2018.) states "Despite smiley ideographs dating back to the 1950s, the term smiley wasn't linked to the smiling yellow face until the 1970s" IMHO the word smiley was linked to ideographs before the 1970s
Merriam-Webster list the "First Known Use of smiley Adjective 1848 " https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/smiley
On March 18 1922 the Gregory Rubber Company of Akron, Ohio ran an ad for smiley face balloons in The Billboard
The Erie Railroad had a good ambassador of goodwill name SMILEY it not THE "the smiling yellow face" however the is a smiling face (see http://elmags.railfan.net/ERIE_Dec1948.pdf and http://cs.trains.com/ctr/f/3/p/256495/2870668.aspx)
In the 1950s the MA-3 rocket launcher [mode III "Smiley"] manufacture by Century Industries of San Pedro, CA [contract AF33 (600) 28547] it had a "painted smiling face" ( https://archive.org/details/sim_united-states-congress-hearings-prints-and-reports_may-02-1956-february-08-11-12-march-26-29-/page/627/mode/2up?q=smiling+ https://www.google.com/books/edition/Intermediate_Report_of_the_Committee_on/eojRAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22Smiley%20%E2%80%9D )
In Helping Johnny Remember(1956) by Portafilms two cartoon faces are drawn on the blackboard: "Smiley" and "Sulky." https://archive.org/details/HelpingJ1956
Do-It-Yourself, Carnival by Jane McHenry in Sarasota Herald-Tribune - Sep 7, 1957 states "...Tape a paper plate to the mop head for a face, arranging string strands on each side for the hair. Draw a big smiley face on plate!...." Jane McHenry assumes kids knew how to draw a "smiley face" https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=-64qAAAAIBAJ&sjid=_GQEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3995,1407077&dq=smiley-face&hl=en
Galloping Ghosts! by Bill Ross Anniston Star ,Oct 26, 1958 Page 50 states "Collect six empty pop bottles and six cone-shaped paper cups. With crayons draw smiley faces on three of the cups and scary ones on the others" Bill Ross assumes kids knew how to draw a "smiley face" https://newspaperarchive.com/anniston-star-oct-26-1958-p-50/
IMHO "Despite smiley ideographs dating back to the 1950s, the term smiley wasn't linked to the smiling yellow face until the 1970s" should be edit out ---- Bayoustarwatch ( talk) 20:52, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
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