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Is that actually true? Is there going to be a new album? 71.126.21.142 ( talk) 00:35, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
This quote confuses me: "they represent the ego of that is Slipknot" First of all, it doesn't make sense that way. This makes it seem like it was a bad quote, or the band member said it oddly. I don't trust the source because of that (it's off a fan site). Can someone dig up the actual interview to find the quote that the fansite referenced or if it is a direct quote, can someone put "that [which] is Slipknot" in there, so it's not confusing to read?
Thanks. 03:26, 28 July 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Soapfoam ( talk • contribs)
I believe we should have something more broad like "metal" or even "rock" in the lead-up, rather than "heavy metal". Having "heavy metal" in the lead-up is a little misleading as that term is usually for more traditional metal bands, while they are more-so associated with alt-metal/nu-metal which is far from the traditional metal. Ximmerman ( talk) 16:13, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
I edited the page to show that they are a nu-metal band. Seeing as how they are on Wikipedia's List of nu metal bands and also mentioned as an influence on the genre on the nu metal page, I have edited this article so that it matches up with these two pages.
Personally I don't think there is any doubt as to whether or not SlipKnot is nu metal. MahoganyCow ( talk) 03:42, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Maybe Slipknot is a band that, by incorporating different elements of extreme music (metalcore, nu-metal, screamo, industrial or whatnot), they choose to let the music speak for itself (and kick you square in the teeth and rack your nuts) rather than stoop to any single 'label' or 'genre' for their sound. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.184.217.215 ( talk) 17:22, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I think they should go under the genre metalcore Well guys there actually Nu Metal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.68.120.207 ( talk) 12:00, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
"They have also stated that they are influenced by industrial bands like Head of David, Godflesh and Skinny Puppy as well as Neurosis and jungle music like Roni Size.[85][86]"
-- Speaking of genre, Godflesh, Head of David, and new SP are not industrial bands. It would be best to change that phrase from "industrial" to "electro-industrial" and "industrial-rock." There is a significant difference between the two. See the following links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Records & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_post-industrial_music_genres_and_related_fusion_genres
They're not metalcore at all.... they're more alternative metal, and their old stuff is definatly Nu Metal. What do you guys think? User Dropdeadcody666 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dropdeadcody666 ( talk • contribs) 01:19, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Quote from allmusic.com for those that say its heavy metal and source it from there.."....and Slipknot's blueprint for nu-metal success was set." Slipknot is nu metal/alt metal get over it!its not heavy metal!not even close to it! Ninjutsu111 ( talk) 14:32, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
There's no screaming in pyschosocial. It's death growling. SLipknot's first album is a nu metal classic, one of the defining albums of the genre along with Korn's self titled. Iowa has been called a "great record/triumph" of the nu metal era. The first two albums are nu metal completely. Volume 3 experimented with their sound, with some songs having taste of the signature sound, and others getting rid of the hip-hop influance that helped make them a staple of nu metal. by all hope is gone, the band have almost entirely abandoned nu metal, instead taking a more extreme metal influanced sound with many songs, such as the hit single pyschosocial, using a groove metal sound similar to pantera or sepultura, and even making use of the power ballad structure (snuff). Slipknot are just what the article currently says in the infobox, a heavy metal band that plays the styles nu metal and alternative metal. —Preceding
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Someone put them as aggro rock and rapcore. Can you Change it back to nu metal and alternative metal. They are rapcore more then rap metal because they incorporate screaming rapping and sing. Thanx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.224.123.196 ( talk) 02:25, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
slipknot ARE alt-metal if you like it or not. aggro rock does not - and will never - exist as a real genre.'nu metal' is metal regardless if you can accept it —Preceding unsigned comment added by KTDucky35 ( talk • contribs) 06:36, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Listen to the song "psychosocial" and tell me that is not metal. 24.18.180.44 ( talk) 04:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC) They're instrumentals have metalcore elements although their vocals don't, so I think nu metal is their destined genre. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.49.166.86 ( talk) 02:17, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
It is apparent that some above consider Slipknot metalcore but they absolutely do not have any of the genre qualifications of a metalcore band. The singing/screaming technique has been around since Fear Factory's debut album in the early 90's and Fear Factory is of course not metalcore. Slipknot also doesn't emphasize the chugging breakdown during the bridge of any of their songs. Calling Slipknot metalcore suggest the listener is just recently learning the differences in metal sub-genres. For metalcore listen to Shadows Fall, God Forbid and similar bands. Musically and ideology wise Slipknot do not share the same ingredients. Keep it .simple and just label them Alternative/Nu Metal. The term is broad enough to cover all the various non metal elements they mix with the metal foundation of the band. Bertrumredneck ( talk) 04:31, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
I have just noticed that under 'Label(s)' in the infobox, there is Nuclear Blast in addition to Roadrunner. As not many will know of this fact (is it true?), as Roadrunner is, and always has been, the band's primary label, I believe it needs a citation or two. Andre666 ( talk) 15:00, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I don't wanna be mr. bossy, but i would suggest some changes of, and new pictures. First of all, i think the picture at the top that images Slipknot playing live is quite, well... We don't see all of the members... And those who we DO see, the picture was taken from far away so we still can't really see them, theyre masks and theyre outfits. I would suggest a non-live picture.
Second, in the part of the "Death masks" i would also like a picture of the members in death masks.
Third, i don't really like the image "Slipknot at Mayhem Festival 2008" at the middle. Again, i can't see anything clear,
I can't really think of something else at the moment, i will do so later.
Tell me if my suggestion is helpfull or not, please. Chainzz ( talk) 16:56, 19 October 2008 (UTC)Chainzz
Who put slipknot in the category "American Death Metal Musical Groups"? Last time I checked, this band doesn't sound a THING like death metal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.119.199.235 ( talk) 23:40, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Chris Fehn joined Slipknot in April of 1997, not 1998. Homie C ( talk) 18:32, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Check his Wikipedia page. Homie C ( talk) 22:41, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
It has a reference on it. 70.111.230.73 ( talk) 03:00, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
i came across this -
is it worth adding this information to the article (maybe under influences and style)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Torque3000 ( talk • contribs) 12:30, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
i dont like to catogorize them they are their own genre they have their own unique sound but most people like to catogorize them as nu-metalBold textslipknot equals slipknot they are themselves and nothing more Sk8t3r ( talk) 04:48, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Slipknot is not a heavy metal band, they are nothing like other heavy metal bands such as Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Motorhead,and they should not be classified as such. Heavy Metal usually refers to bands that have a sound similar to the original heavy metal bands. They are alternative metal, or Nu-Metal. Distorted Guitars does not make a band Heavy Metal.
slimply untrue.what is and isnt metal isnt a matter of opinion. you can tell if something is metal by listening to it. slipknot is metal.judas priest is metal. they have things in common. any way,just because you might not like them doesnt mean they arent metal. and if you do like them and say they're not metal,then you apparently dont like them enough to learn about their own genre —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.233.152.222 ( talk) 23:34, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Slipknot is not a heavy metal band. Slipknot is nu metal, a genre not recognized as being a subgenre of heavy metal by the majority of heavy metal fans. I do have to say though I like MFKR and some the self titled and I hear they put on an amazing show. But either way it should not be classified as metal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.86.118.2 ( talk) 03:33, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Melkortheevil ( talk) 20:21, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
The discussion about the existence of both articles have gone on for long enough, at both their GANs and AfDs, and most recently at Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/Slipknot discography. I say we just merge them both into this article once and for all. Otherwise, we can't move on with an ultimate Slipknot topic at some point in the future. To merge them both in, a lot of stuff will have to be removed, but a lot of it is redundant with what's in here. I recall talking about this with Blackngold29, who might be able to shed some more light on the situation. Gary King ( talk) 19:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
I agree with this comment by Rezter ( talk · contribs). Cirt ( talk) 11:48, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Should the genre in the band's infobox be changed to say Heavy metal, Alternative metal, and Rap metal per http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&searchlink=SLIPKNOT&sql=11:dxfoxql5ldae~T1 ? Winston talk 21:10, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Slipknot is not a heavy metal band. To say that Slipknot is a heavy metal band shows a very shallow understanding of what heavy metal actually is. The term "Heavy Metal" usually is used to refer to bands such as Judas Priest and Iron Maiden that existed before the "Heavy Metal" music slit into sub genres. Thrash Metal bands do not have a heavy metal classification listed under their genre, death metal bands do not, neither do black metal bands. The only exception to this is if the band has a style very similar to "Heavy Metal" bands in a classical sense. It appears that the reason for this classification is either ignorance or bias. Supporters of Slipknot wish for the band to escape the stigma of nu metal, and therefore incorrectly declare the band to be Heavy Metal. In order to maintain consistency Wikipedia has two options the first option would be to remove the heavy metal classification from bands that do not fit it (for example Slipknot/Mudvayne), or the second one which would be to attach broad genres to all bands in addition to the current one, (For example all death metal bands receive a heavy metal classification, all emo bands receive a punk classification, or even a broader rock definition)
Melkortheevil ( talk) 17:42, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
This source is much more reliable then allmusic on the subject of heavy metal, because heavy metal is its prime mandate, and slipknot is not listed as a heavy metal band. http://metalstorm.ee/bands/band.php?band_id=1106&bandname=Slipknot
Melkortheevil ( talk) 00:59, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Allmusic knows nothing about heavy metal music anyways so they are not a reliable source, what is more reliable a website dedicated to the actual topic, or a website with a very shallow understanding of the topic.
Melkortheevil ( talk) 01:44, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Will you people kindly let people who actually LISTEN to metal take care of this? Wait, no... of course not, Wikipedians always know better. Gaiacarra ( talk) 13:24, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
In an interview, Corey States that he and Clown intended on making one album and then getting out of the music business, but decided to make a follow up after the sucess they had
I have a Source - http://www.3news.co.nz/Video/Full-interview-with-Slipknots-Corey-Taylor/tabid/551/articleID/76988/cat/55/Default.aspx?articleID=76988#video - on it. The interview's 10 minutes long and it comes about 6 minutes into it and there are probably other things in the interview we could use. It's an interesting fact that I doubt is known by many people, maggots included.
I wasn't sure where to add it, the S/T album seems to be the best place to put it. Although, it could also be added to the history section of the main page. Mentioning it in the S/T part and saying in the Iowa part something like "after the success of their first album, Slipknot decided to make a follow up album"
Any thouughts? Xanthic-Ztk ( talk) 20:40, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
I think its worth adding. Torque3000 ( talk) 09:26, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
I added a bit about it to the section about Iowa, but it doesn't make complete sense due to the fact that it is never explained that they inteded on making one album to begin with. I wasn't sure how to add it to the bit about their debut, so would anyone mind adding it for me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xanthic-Ztk ( talk • contribs) 04:26, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
everyone knows for a fact that slipknot is a nu-metal band, allmusic is not gospel, this is getting ridiculous, you have no idea what you are talking about. I am sure someone is trying to rewrite the article to make it look like slipknot is a "Heavy Metal" band when they clearly are not. Allmusic is a worthless website filled with inaccuracies.
Melkortheevil ( talk) 14:39, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Read the all music description it clearly says they are a Nu metal band, "One of the most popular bands in the so-called nu-metal explosion of the late '90s", "Slipknot's blueprint for nu-metal success was set."
Its on slipknot's all music page in the description text,now please stop reverting the page, its amazing that no one can read the description text.
Melkortheevil ( talk) 22:30, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
I really don't get why no one will even respond to the fact that no one will respond to the fact that even all music describes slipknot as a nu metal band in the main body text, why doesn't wikipedia do the same, all that happens is a bunch of slipknot fans watch this page and revert it whenever someone describes the band as a nu-metal band. If this continues I'm going to have to ask another admin to step in and correct this nonsense.
Melkortheevil ( talk) 01:39, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
So to be clear, are you referring to this quote: "one of the most popular bands in the so-called nu-metal explosion of the late '90s." on this page? It's really a whole lot simpler if you would just post the direct quote and link in the future. I haven't reverted anything, though multiple users should heed WP:TRR; I do not know why others are removing it. If nu metal or is added (due to its inclusion of said quote) I will not revert it, however, I believe it belongs in the "Influences and style" and the infobox, but not the lead sentence. If it were up to me there would be no genre in the infobox (I personally hate the entire concept), but per past discussions on various pages I appear to be in the minority. That's my two cents anyway, I look forward to any other comments. Black ngold29 05:58, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
It's funny.everyone sais Slipknot is not a heavy Metal band.it's correct. OK Nu Metal and Alternative Metal Are Subgenres of Heavy Metal But as Heavy Metal is mostly used for refering Traditional Heavy Metal Bands like Iron Maiden and Motorhead, I dont think it's good for mentioning it as Slipknots genre,Wich will give the readers a bad describtion about the bands sound.
I also think there might be a way to describe the bands Speed-Death Metal sound.altough I know their Music is not Speed Metal Or Death metal but as the vocals have a lot of roars and grunts that are inspired from "Extreme Metal"[Thrash,Death,Doom,Black] and the music's fast drums ,double bass drums and blast beats, I think it's good to think of a way to describe their sound better in the genre part.Because Alternative Metal and Nu Metal might make the reader recall the Sound wich Linkin Park or Korn and Limp Bizkit make.But Slipknot's music is far away from these bands' groovy sound.I don't have any idea about this yet.Cause Speed Metal,Thrash Metal or Death metal are not good words to describe their sound.( I think Death Metal can be Helpful.Although they are not a death metal band,but their sound is a mixture of Nu matal and death metal) ( Solino the Wolf ( talk) 23:21, 1 December 2008 (UTC))
Hey!Why doesn't anyone answer?! it's been a while that I've sent this and no one answer's! Solino the Wolf ( talk) 18:55, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
I've read them all.Ok.about reliable sources.KoRn is a Nu Metal band and reliable sources say that they don't concern their own music to be Nu metal! So are we not to put Nu metal in their genre? ? I don't know wich reliable source puts Slipknot in HEAVY METAL genre! But I know that Heavy metal doesn't give the readers who haven't heard Slipkont,a good discription of their music and sound.Cause the word "Heavy Metal" might make them recall Traditional heavy metal bands such as black Sabbath,Iron Maiden,Motorhead and ... as I said before. Solino the Wolf ( talk) 19:35, 7 December 2008 (UTC)no answers? I think it's more like you're not thinking about improving the article,you just like to insist on keeping Heavy Metal on their genre.ok.let it be.But it's VERY funny.(as we all know)
Ok.I give Up.So let's put all Alternative Metal,Nu Metal,Gothic metal,Death Metal,Doom Metal,Black Metal and etc. in Heavy Metal genre because all the reliable sources put these genres as subgenres of heavy metal and as you say the infobox is only to show people that the band is not jazz,folk, etc. so why not put ALL Metal bands in heavy Metal genre.Or even put them all in Rock genre as all reliable sources put heavy metal under the header of rock music! Solino the Wolf ( talk) 11:56, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
ok.I accept it.The thing is,All the things writen here must have reliable sources but not all the things writen in reliable sources must be put here.As I gave an example before about how KoRn have claimed not to be a Nu Metal band.We must write this on their article-as we have- but we musn't erase Nu Metal from their genre in infobox.Cause Infobox is to give the readers the best discribtion about the bands' sound and music.But you're right.As Slipknot doesn't have a certain genre, It might be hard to find reliable sources wich contain their genre.
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I was just on black-goat.com a slipknot fansite and went into the section mfkr facts. i came across a section where it said kun nong was the first guitarist in slipknot, and quit after 6 practises. should this be mentioned??? - Adozenlies97 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 04:04, 21 December 2008 (UTC).
Quan. not kun..... look here. 64.231.10.91 ( talk) 18:26, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
"One Day Create a Band Of Post-Grunge With Influence of Hardcore and some Shit the i dont remmember the name I think the name is something like alumminum or Metal!! One Day When Mtv Pays me a big f***ing money said to me The need something new and give me more Money to say to my Stupid Fans the bullshit about a "new wave of american heavy metal" Shit The Never Exist jajaja but Give a lot of fuckin gold(Money) nu metal isnot a Real Metal Genre!! But Who Dont Cares!! Give a Lot Of Money" Joey And Corey Interview -- Metal.Darkness666
Keep clean 64.231.10.91 ( talk) 18:26, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
SLIPKNOT is thrash metal because of Vol.3 (The Subliminal Verses) and all hope is gone —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seth4000 ( talk • contribs) 14:22, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Slipknot stared with-out corey taylor and if you want to learn more about slipknot you can go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfTPPAugXG4&NR=1 and you will learn how slipknot REALLY started —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slipknot191 ( talk • contribs) 01:57, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, they were more of an experimental act when they first started. Take "Do Nothing/Bitchslap," for example, which alternates between funk sections, speed metal riffing and jazz. When they first started, the band was simply combining different styles of music, in an attempt to find their own sound. In fact, M.F.K.R. kinda reminds me of experimental acts like Vintersorg in some ways. And in that respect... thank the metal gods that Slipknot found their current sound!
Hey, Slipknot has 2 other 'Unreleased' albums (or EP's, I'm not sure what to consider them) "Crows" and "Clan." Clan was released just before Iowa and Crows was released either right after or before their demo. idk how to make albums, but I'll post the song names so you can make them —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.31.234 ( talk) 00:52, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure it says somewhere on the Slipknot portal that there is to be NO mention of Crowz in any Slipknot article. Infact, I recall reading somewhere that Mick Thomson said "Crowz doesn't exist". MFKR and their '98 demo were the only demos released. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xanthic-Ztk ( talk • contribs) 00:36, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
He died in 2008!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.28.122.41 ( talk) 15:47, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
clown isnt dead ( Seth4000 ( talk) 13:40, 23 February 2009 (UTC)) Seth4000
They are not known as a heavy metal band. They are known more as a nu-metal band than any other genre. Gune ( talk) 21:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Maybe you should get your so called "reliable" source that says they are heavy metal then Gune ( talk) 23:17, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
I already did. They do not mention that it is known as a heavy metal band. You're both ignoring my point because you both know you are wrong and making stuff up. Gune ( talk) 01:24, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
I would put them in the rapcore genre —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.31.234 ( talk) 00:44, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
there not rapcore there more like rap metal and groove metal ( Seth4000 ( talk) 13:54, 9 March 2009 (UTC)) Seth4000
The former members list doesn't contain Quan Nong's name for some reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JoshRobMack ( talk • contribs) 12:59, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Why is it that, every time this band puts out new music, that breakup rumors emerge? I remember back when Vol.3 came out, all these kids at my high school were all freaked out that "our favorite masked band is breaking up!!!" Now here we are, I'm 19 years old, and these same rumors are coming out again, even though they are currently TOURING and have INTENTIONS to RELEASE NEW MATERIAL. Even with Corey wanting to start a solo career, he's mentioned in interviews that he still wants to remain Slipknot's throat. My whole point is... Is there ANY concrete evidence? Or is it just more unsupported (and probably untrue) breakup rumors? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.174.219.194 ( talk) 23:31, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
SlipKnoT has two other unreleased albums, 'Crowz' was released in 1997 before their demo, and 'Clan' was released in 2001 before 'Iowa.' I don't know how to put albums on, so if you do just tell me and I'll put the track names on —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.31.234 ( talk) 01:27, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
But they still both exist, I have hard copies of them. They have credits for every member of SlipKnoT, even the ones who played on 'Mate. Feed. Kill. Repeat.' They're not demo tapes, they have live tracks and remixes, and most maggots would still like to have the album —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.128.53.147 ( talk) 01:13, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
14 out of 33 songs on the two albums combined are completely new, it doesn't matter if they're unreleased because there are still hard copies of them. ICP's first demo tape was unreleased the same way, but you guys still have that on here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.123.157 ( talk) 02:23, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Well they do exist, just not off a record company like Roadrunner, they were self-released like Mate. Feed. Kill. Repeat, the only difference is that MFKR had more copies released, I personally would like some more opinions to see if people want the albums on here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.31.130 ( talk) 00:32, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
ICP's first demo tape was unreleased in the same fashion, you are correct. However, they talk about it in behind the paint. As where slipknot wont even acknowledge the existance of crowz. 64.53.255.33 ( talk) 04:01, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
sorry, i dont know how to reply, so i added this..... read and discuss please :) the reason i seen people arguing over whether slipknot is heavy metal or not is simple: some people are considering heavy metal to mean "heavy metal music" which covers all the subgenres (which includes nu-metal, whether metal heads like it or not, nu metal is a form of metal) while the die hard metal heads are thinking of traditional heavy metal when they say heavy metal. Well i just wanna say, if they were trying to classify slipknot as traditional heavy metal, the link in the article would say traditional heavy metal. However, the article should read that "Slipknot is a band specializing in a form of Heavy metal called nu metal" rather than "Slipknot is a heavy metal band" this would make everyone happy, and still stays factual at the same time. However, under genres, the link to heavy metal should be removed, as alternative metal and nu metal automatically tell the reader "oh they're a metal band" and therefore saying "heavy metal, nu metal" is redundant, as nu metal is a genre of heavy metal. the only way it isnt redundant, is if you mean traditional heavy metal, which slipknot is not. Also, the band member page states rap metal as one of the genres, as this page does not. anyone care to discuss?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.12.239.90 ( talk) 19:29, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Since when was this announced? There is no mention of it in this article, nor is there an article for it. Should I just assume that this is a rumour, or has it actually been announced? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xanthic-Ztk ( talk • contribs) 00:31, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
i just made a talk page called Talk:SlipKnot (band) but they already have one... plz delete nu talk page. thx... 64.231.10.91 ( talk) 18:27, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Do we really need four articles for the Iowa tour? Every leg of the tour has its own article and they really don't even warrant existance - no tour dates, very little information (about a paragraph, and that's the whole article) and offline references so they cannot be varified. The Pledge of Allegiance could warrant an article but needs serious improvement, as does The Subliminal Verses Tour, but at the moment, All Hope Is Gone World Tour is the only one that should have an article.
I don't know how to nominate them for deletion, so could someone else do it? Xanthic-Ztk ( talk) 22:19, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
perhaps all the tour stubs should merged into one article??? —Preceding
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The band has only one name, there are some ways to refer to the band that aren't either official or supported by the band. Thus being, I haven't seen any reason for the "also known as" section, that I deleted. If people may thing this information is acctually essencial to the understanding of the article, I'd suggest to place them in the article body. män-et-arms ( talk) 23:41, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Alright, I have no problem with 'heavy metal' being in the infobox. I want to get that out of the way, because from what I've seen, this is what most of the genre arguments stem from.
What I think needs to be changed, however, is 'heavy metal' to simply 'metal' in the opening sentence. This is not to say that Slipknot are not a heavy metal band, but to have heavy metal in the opening paragraph places undue weight on the view - that is to say, it places more emphasis than on nu metal and alternative metal. To place more emphasis on this would indicate that sources label the band as heavy metal more than the other two, which I am not convinced of. I'm not going to pretend I have read every review or comment ever made by a reliable source on Slipknot's genre, but from what I am aware, there are more sources for nu metal than heavy metal. As we have the genre of heavy metal in the infobox, we need to differentiate it from the metagenre of heavy metal, which is I assume what we are using in the opening sentence. The easiest way to do this is to call Slipknot a 'metal' band - this is the easiest way to make the article neutral. James25402 ( talk) 19:10, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
-Unfortunately with the change of standard and extremity of metal music these days, Black Sabbath are more closely linked to rock music than metal. Also, I know fan's aren't a definitive source (wikipedia needs to add Metal-archives or Spirit of Metal as a viable source ¬_¬) most fans would consider that "true metal" falls under standardised sub-genres, for example; thrash, death, heavy/traditional, NWOBHM, black, power, speed, whereas nowadays, "metal" would refer to bands that don't exactly fall into one or more of these definitive categories, and so get lumped as "metal" for example, Job For a Cowboy are often labelled JUST "metal" when in actual fact, they're hardcore/deathcore/metalcore. etc. ThePerfectVirus ( talk) 20:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Well Insane clown posse has an article for there fans, the juggalos (which slipknot has claimed to be juggalos, so why cant there be a page for the maggots? or at least a section of the article??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.53.255.33 ( talk) 23:39, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
The "Early Years" section of this article needs to be edited. Colsefini didn't leave the band until after the recording of their Self-titled album.
WhisperedConjuration ( talk) 02:07, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
I think the most suitable genres for describing Slipknot and Iowa would be Metalcore and Industrial Metal and maybe Nu Metal. Their music sounds just as the description that genres have here in Wikipedia. Alternative Metal would be fine also. But I don't think they're pure heavy metal. Vol.3 and All Hope is Gone are more melodic and alternative if you ask me, retaining some industrial elements, and my source again is this page, because their music sounds just as it's described. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kakisto ( talk • contribs) 04:31, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
i have to agree there first album has more of a metalcore style and there second album iowa is nu-metal then vol3 is heavy metal and then all hope is gone is groove metal ( Seth4000 ( talk) 14:57, 11 May 2009 (UTC)) Seth4000
i think many songs are missing in the article (for example Jump da fuck up). maybe a list of all songs would help. Seelentau ( talk) 21:44, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
So apparently slipknot isnt the first band to be called slipknot. the first was a 1980 thrash metal band who only came out with an EP in 89 and contributed to a compilation 95, the year this slipknot formed. i dont know about you guys, but i never heard of this thrash metal band called slipknot. i dont really think theyre even notable enough to be on wiki. who agrees with me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.53.255.33 ( talk) 03:20, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
OK, I don't have enough time (or interest) to involve myself heavily in this article. However, I've been heavily involved in a number of debates like this one with other bands. I've found that generally, the most general/substantiated genre goes into the lead sentence. For instance, if Slipknot is Alternative metal, heavy metal, AND nu metal, what do they all have in common? They are all metal or they are all rock (again, I don't know enough about this genre to know for sure). Therefore, I recommend something along the lines of:
Good luck fighting this one out guys and gals. Wikiwikikid ( talk) 19:23, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Here's a suggestion, let's take a consensus. No arguing here (you can do that above). Simply voice which side you side with along with a brief comment if you like. What should the lead genre be?
The link is dead on note 94 and the page is locked for editing for me so here is the new link for whoever can edit: http://www.chartattack.com/news/34166/young-killers-try-to-blame-slipknot-for-murder —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.164.201 ( talk) 15:44, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Are people still believing this? Nu-Metal as a genre was a fad that popped up in 97 and certainly never included Slipknot. Change it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.201.34.220 ( talk) 18:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
The source was kinda confusing. It didn't really reveal anything concrete. Should we keep it? 98.174.219.202 ( talk) 23:17, 29 June 2009 (UTC)