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While "typically made of wood" might have been true of skateboards at some point, I don't think it's been true since the 1980s. Almost all the ones I see are composites. -- Lee Daniel Crocker
Virtually every modern skateboard deck manufactured today is 7 plies of Canadian Hard Rock Maple. the only "major" (which is a bit of a stretch) company to use composites is the snowboard manufacturer Lib Technologies. They manufacture fiberglass-enhanced skate decks. Other companies have experimented with composite technologies, but none have proven viable.
What's an "Ollie"? -- the Epopt The foundation of all skateboarding tricks -- hard to describe in words, but basically the skater makes his board jump up into the air while he's riding it, up to several feet in the case of a particularly good skater.Like Kason Clary.
Ollie: while riding forward, the rear foot presses firmly, sharply, suddenly, on the tail of the board, at the same time the rider 'unweights' the front leg, and in quick succession afterwards, unweights the rear as he pushes forward with the forward foot, all of which has the effect of causing the board board to first rotate upwards, front foremost, then rotate into a position roughly parallel with the riding surface. (this is what you are usually seeing if you see a skateboarder jump over a low obstacle on the rider's path)(I'm not a skater, I'm a juggler, but this is what it looks like to me when viewed in slow motion.)
Same/similar trick can be done riding backwards too. In combination with other 'moves' this is a core skateboarding skill on which higher order skills are based. nice article, guys, seems to becoming along, putting it on my watchlist. Pedant 21:40, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
The key to the ollie (aside from timing of course) is dragging the front foot up the deck, lifting the deck higher and leveling it out. The basic timing is pop - jump/drag front foot - level it out - land.
How about approximate year ranges in the history? – Floorsheim 07:54, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
The extrenal links were worthless. Tp 06:39, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
This is a great explaination of a skateboard! yippeeeeeeeeeeee! jack
Hey all a ollie does is help you if your think that is a trick u must be trippin because it just helps you link other moves
We need to catalogue more things about skateboards. Like tricks, skateboard culture, professional skateboarders, etc. Theres far more to skateboarding than it's components. A lot more to it.
In short, I think that Skateboarding should be merged into the Skateboard article.
I've cleaned this page up a little and made it easier to understand. The two most significant changes are:
"The wheels, usually made of polyurethane, come in nine different sizes" to "The wheels, usually made of polyurethane, come in many different sizes to suit different types of skating"
And
"Inside each wheel are eight(2 for each wheel) precision ball bearings" to "Inside each wheel are two precision ball bearings of the type '608' (8mm internal bore)". Steve-g 16:36, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
I've removed the suffix 'bone' from some of the obsolete plastics titles as this is the brand name for Powell plastics - lots of other companies made plastics
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19:05, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
I added some categories from skateboarding to skateboard, since they are very closely related. Fine Arts 17:54, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Some history of the skateboard should be included here, especially the late-1970s skateboarding fad, and the association with skate punks in the 1980s. As I've never been on a skateboard without immediately falling on my behind, I leave it to someone else to write this... ProhibitOnions (T) 19:40, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
A lot of history is included on the skateboarding page. I think this is the correct place for it as skateboarding is an 'act' and therefore a social phenomenon with a history, the skateboard is an 'object' whose history exists only as a social phenomenon. Steve-g 19:56, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Of course the history of an object is important! If you look up light bulb, shouldn't the article at least mention Edison? This article needs history and development data...Duh
I think they need to be added in. EG ramp, street, long, slide, pool... Any comments? 782 Naumova 22:12, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Good idea. Alongside 'regular' decks, we could include square tailed pool/ramp decks, slalom, drop-centre downhill speed decks, and longboards. I can't think of any others off hand, but a new section on 'specialized decks' would be good. Steve-g 08:10, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
I am 75yo and when I was 8yo I took one of my mothers dancing skates and removed it from the boot. I put some wood on it and used to sit on it and roll down the hill (bitumen). Dancing skates have stearable wheels like the modern skateboard. This was in England during the war. A box on wheels was known as a Billy Cart. williamvi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Williamvi ( talk • contribs) 12:09, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
I don't think "Obsolete" is the correct header for that section. Any ideas on how it should be renamed? Dubkiller 06:59, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
How come there is no section for the trucks? I was looking for the threading specs and when i found them (Hex Die 5/16-24 for the axle) I thought I should put it here but there is no trucks-section and I wanted to check if this was a consious decision since it's such an obvious part? Am I missing something. And please confirm that the threading is right and I would appreciate if someone knew if this varies between trucks. Also the kingpin threading might be useful to know. Reference for the threading ( http://www.skateboard-city.com/messageboard/archive/index.php/t-4369.html) -- Mnsc 12:29, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Common bolt specs | |||
part | dim. | threading | uts |
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kingpin | 3/8 | 24tpi | unf |
axle | 5/16 | 24tpi | unf |
hardware | #10? | 24tpi? | unc |
Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Thread_Standard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_metric_screw_thread http://www.zytrax.com/tech/mech/threads.htm
DO NOT use #10-24 TPI bolts on foamcore decks to mount the trucks. Use #10-32 TPI hardware instead, as the finer threading will be far less abrasive to the fiberglass(M-5 hardware is o.k.,too,but is a bit larger in diameter than US #10 bolts).
from: http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=2462&sid=84ff6bcf948b85e03f04f7e42d64e01a
As was previously mentioned, the threading is 3/8-24 tpi, aka "unf." A 2.5" length will work, but 2.75" gives more room for taller top bushings, thicker (flat) washers, etc.
http://www.ncdsa.com/2/13365/13389/Skateboard-Truck-Reviews.htm
Seems to me an article as short as Banana board might be better suited to be a part of the Skateboard article, perhaps under some kind of general history section? -- Lijnema 15:14, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
I am a 57 year old Skate boarder from Southern California who invented it. I also have the first professionally made skateboard in existence made by “The Old Man” a professional surf board maker for a measly $5.00 back in the 50’s. What do you got? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MichaelSavage ( talk • contribs).
The wheels section is mostly made up of generalisations and biased info ("Modern street skaters prefer", "ollies easier"). I will keep my rework here so that others might add, protest and comment. My plan is to merge the four last sections in the first three and make them paragraphs, not a list. Something along the lines of: "the hardness of the wheels affects the riding behavior, top speed, grip yadayada...", "Larger wheels = slower rotation which allows for higher top speeds etc.", "Choice of wheels depends on something..." -- Mnsc 19:45, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
The wheels, usually made of polyurethane, come in many different sizes and shapes to suit different types of skating. Larger sizes like 65-90 mm roll faster, and also move more easily over small cracks in pavement, these are used by longboards . Smaller sizes like 48-54 mm keep the board closer to the ground and require less force to accelerate but also make for a slower top speed and a lower center of gravity.
The skateboards of 1970s (old school) are usually made of urethane which is a product of oil. One of the leading wheels near the 70s are commonly mistaken for Polyurethane formed wheels. The skateboarders from the 2004 movie Lords of Dogtown used these urethane skateboard wheels. These wheels were invented right after ball bearing skateboard wheels were invented.
Wheels also are available in a variety of hardnesses usually measured on the durometer 'A' scale. Wheels range from the very soft (about 75a) to the very hard (about 99a). As the scale stops at 100a, any wheels labelled 101a or higher are harder, but do not use the appropriate durometer scale. Some wheel manufacturers now use the 'B' or 'D' scale, which has a larger and more accurate range of hardnesses.
I guess this is som old school "extras" and to me it seem to be the same thing? Anyone got pictures? A story? Regional names? Google gave nothing. -- Mnsc 19:51, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
I think it's important to tell that the optional components are pretty much useless. Not that Nose guards and Rail Guards help but honestly skaters really don't need them. First of, lappers do help with smooth tranistion but they still can get hang ups and besides ollies today are important to get up obstacles so lappers are not needed. Nose, rail and tail guards are not needed either. Let the board breathe. I mean if a board gets scratched, a board gets scratched, thats the way of skateboards. Trust mre if you show up with a trashed up board, that shows how hard you skate. But this is one component that I think is still cool. Riser pads also are not needed. They do prevent wheelbite (when the board jams into the wheel, stopping it) but you can get higher and/or tighter trucks and plus we have smaller wheels now so riser pads, good-bye. As for copers well the grind is for the grinding sound so the trucks need to scuff. 72.130.138.131 02:19, July 17, 2007 (UTC)
very few people(ive never seen anyone) use lappers or copers anymore. the way its written in the article makes it sound like its a major part of a board. but you cant even find those parts in most skate shops. 162.40.203.9 17:31, July 23, 2007 (UTC)
This is an imp[ortant componenet to the board. The griptape is the rough black (commonly black but can be colored) sand paper material on the top of the board. This material will help grip the shoes when in the air so the board does not float out. It can be smooth or rough and most skaters have preference when this is the one skate part that does not affect preforming for the worst. Some skaters cut or draw patterns on their griptape for fun or to know when the nose and tail are. Griptape can get ruined by mud, water or rubbing it roughly but it can be taken off with a hair dyer by knicking a corner and blowing underneath to dry the sticky side. 72.130.138.131 01:43, July 17, 2007 (UTC)
I've been thinking about this page lately, and it's a tough one to tackle. Most of the descriptions of a skateboard and its parts in the article are pretty much for one style of skateboard, but the actual fact is that there are so many different kinds that are just as legitimate, even though they might not be as popular. I don't think I'm up to the task of cataloging everything that can be considered a skateboard or skateboard part, but I have expanded the article to make a note that there is no definitive or "regulation" skateboard. Dubkiller 11:18, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
I suggest this page be afforded some degree of protection (edit locking), as it has recently been used as a slate for petty arguments by anonymous ISP-only editors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AnarchMonarch ( talk • contribs) 02:20, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
I just reverted this page from BLANK. Think about requesting temp semi-protection Matthew Glennon ( talk) 21:27, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Just a note, skaters also use larger sized wheels when "streetskating" as it allows for easier control of the board when on a road that has a lot of rocks. Smaller wheels give in for more "hang-ups" on the rocks.
Skate4Life
So, what changed? What is the difference between the modern skateboard and the skateboard of the mid-70's? Did the skateboard craze of the 70's use the old skateboard or the new skateboard? My guess would be that you are talking about the change in deck design from a soft deck (mid 70's) back to a hard deck (60's and 80's), but I wasn't in California at the time, so maybe you are talking about truck design or wheel material? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.214.18.240 ( talk) 20:33, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Nothing in here about steerable wheels. On a skateboard, when you lean, the wheels change direction. It's a defining feature of a skateboard. I'd be interested in the history of that. I've seen a suggestion that dance skates had this feature, so maybe that's where it came from?
In the mid-late 70's good skateboarders used very soft, flexible decks, made of fiberglass, that would flex perhaps 1/2 inch or a centimetre when you stood on them. (More if you were too heavy for the board). This would have had two effects: (1) you could get some bounce off the deck. I don't remember it being used for that, but there wasn't the big layer of sponge between the deck and the truck now used to get bounce. (2) You could steer the board by bending it. I you leant into the side-centre, the trucks would track in a curve.
I can't remember for sure what kinds of trucks where used with those soft boards. Was the board-bend-steering used because steerable trucks were not used? I think that I remember from the look that they were also using steerable trucks, but probably not as soft or as wide.
Those soft-deck boards were too soft and not tough enough to do modern tricks: they would have dragged and would have broken up quickly on big drops. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.214.18.240 ( talk) 20:50, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Moved from top of page -- kainaw ™ 15:02, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Ok, I've been riding skateboards since the late 1970's and ther is A LOT of misinformation in this article, in multiple areas. The "soft" boards are actually slalom boards, which are fiberglass and wood(look up G&S Fiberflex), the entire histpory in a bit wonky at best, and the whole thing seems to written by kids who have no concept of where the sport came from. For instance, Ollie Gelfand invented the ollie(hmmm imagine that) Rodney Mullin took it to the street(I remeber the first time I saw him do one in person, I was awe). I think I'll dig out some older books, and magazines, and do a bit of editting on this myself. There is so much missing, out of context, and just plain wrong, that it might be better to scrap the entire thing and start from scratch. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.20.49.65 ( talk • contribs)
Recently in Sydney there was a radio competition hosted by Merrick, Dools & Ricki-Lee that encouraged people to add false information to this article regarding the person who invented the skateboard. The claim was made by some bloke who happened to improvise his own skate board back in 1959 using wheels from roller skates and an old bit of timber. Although this might be true he is not the actual person who invented the skateboard and the information should be construed as misinformation and reverted. ***Adam*** 22:09, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
I am surprised that there is nothing regarding the origins of the skateboard. I know that in the early '50s, here in Scotland, adjustable roller skates were fitted with a bit of wood and sometimes even a hardback book. The latter especially were usually crouched on but the more game would stand on the wooden lash-up.
This does not mean that the origins were in Scotland but that such devices had probably been used by the inventive (TV and computer deprived) children of the fifties and probably earlier for years - before an entrepeneur decided to teach grannies how to suck eggs and make a few bob. 86.11.163.178 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:28, 6 July 2011 (UTC).
You can also propel the board by what we used to call boogieing or tapping (I haven't been on a skateboard since 1978): pivoting on the rear wheels and tapping the front on the pavement at an acute angle alternating left and right, twisting your torso to throw your weight to push outward on each side, thus propelling you forward. In effect you're alternately positioning the board like a left and then right inline skate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.42.208.174 ( talk) 22:29, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
This page should cite the documentary Magic Rolling Board. 143.232.210.38 ( talk) 16:48, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
These aren't mentioned. The brake is often just a pad of rubber at the back of the board; also seen are pedals pressing directly on the axle using a brake pad and some even use special systems. See http://wackyboards.blogspot.be/search/label/%7Dbrakes 109.133.98.70 ( talk) 15:04, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
Not sure if the editors here would find this useful - just uploaded this PD photo depicting the application of grip tape. Kelly hi! 14:46, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
For starters, when and from where did it appear? I came to this page to find out what the origins of the skateboard are, and as of this moment there seems to be zilch. WTF?? Adrigon ( talk) 02:48, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I wanted to know the history of the instrument itself (not the timeline of the activity). I've created a heading directing readers to that page for this information. Adrigon ( talk) 11:51, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
There is some information here that makes the assumption the reader already knows something about this subject. As an encyclopedic article it should not do so. Sample from the second paragraph in the "Deck" section: "One of the first deck companies was called "Drapped" taken from Jonny's second name." The casual reader is not going to know who "Jonny" is nor what his second name is that "Drapped" is derived from. I would encourage any of the previous editors to make an effort to improve this aspect of the article. It's good, but it can be better. Thanks! THX1136 ( talk) 15:17, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
I agree. Someone who knows should fix this. -- Meve Stills ( talk) 16:21, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Please add details to the deck section, about common and alternative deck materials -- plywood? plastic? fiberglass? other?- 96.233.20.34 ( talk) 16:21, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
The Wheels section talks about "width", but then says that "Smaller width sizes like 48–54 mm keep the board closer to the ground". In order to move the board closer to the ground, you would use smaller diameter wheels, not smaller width wheels. All the uses of "width" should be corrected as "diameter" if that's what is being discussed. -- Meve Stills ( talk) 16:32, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Watching Hollywood Knights, supposedly taking place in 1965, and saw a skateboard? When was the skateboard invented and when did it become popular? I may have missed 1965, but I never saw one at any time close to that. Longinus876 ( talk) 23:33, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
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There is an inconsistency between this article and the Longboard article about whether a longboard is a type of skateboard or a separate class of sports equipment that is similar to, but distinct from, a skateboard. The Longboard article takes the latter view. I'd side with the former but I'd be generally in favour of deferring to the authority of the main article on the subject, if that seems like a reasonable claim, in the interest of keeping it consistent. mmj ( talk) 10:42, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
I recently saw a documentary (in the German TV "N24") about specific people in the year 1943 in Germany, in which kids (3 to 10 years old) as well as a grown up man (one after the other) used a board on 4 rollers. This board was rather rectangular (not with rounded ends), but had the proportions very similar to today's short skateboards. These folks were sitting on this "skateboard" and they were rolling down another board: a sloping board of about two to three meters long. At the bottom were additional boards lined up on the lawn, because this was on a private garden lawn.
The original documentary about the Goebbels's family life (Magda Goebbels, wife of Josef Goebbels, the Nazi) was filmed by a professional German filmcrew with professional film cameras (in black&white) on the premises of the Goebbels in Berlin, Germany, in 1943 for the German "Wochenschau" (short films which were shown in cinemas before the main film). A scene about 30 seconds long shows this "skate"board.
Some of this original film was shown in the recent documentary
I have a digital record, but I don't know how I could make this scene into a clip. Problem: It is recorded in a TV from Sony, and Sony records in an encoded format. I can only play this record in exactly this TV-set.
But even if I could take some images, e.g. via screenshots with a camera, there would probably be the problem of the copyright.
It could very well be that US officers who, in 1945, came on to the premises of the Goebbels, in Berlin and other officers who sighted the original film or the "Wochenschau" films came across this board and brought the idea, or maybe even the original board, to America.
It could as well be that the standing use of a skateboard was invented in the US, but I hope you don't mind too much that this documentary would ruin the idea that the skateboard in itself was invented in the 1950s in the US, especially with this nazi-connotation. So sorry friends.
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I am moving the following uncited material here until it can be properly supported with inline citations of reliable, secondary sources, per WP:V, WP:CS, WP:IRS, WP:PSTS, WP:BLP, WP:NOR, et al. [ This diff] shows where it was in the article. Nightscream ( talk) 18:36, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
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I linked the words polyurethane, skateparks, and long boards on the skateboard wikipage to other wikipages. I also linked the skateboard wikipage on other wikipages such as Freestyle skateboarding and Street skateboarding. Caseymen ( talk) 09:46, 1 December 2022 (UTC)