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The whole article at this point sounds like a promotional sheet or gladrag from the university's administration/marketing department. The political turmoil of the 1960s is passed over in a few short lines without saying what went on - even though the university's 40th anniversary used the slogan "radical by design" for a rendezvous that had all the wild panache of a church social (and not a single sandal-clad furry radical in sight). Surely there's someone out there "who was there"; cites would have to come from the Peak and newspaper reports of the day, and I wouldn't know where to start.
Nicknames that should appear in the article somewhere - "Snafu' and "Sfoo". Students up there these days are so straight-laced they probably don't dare use them, however. Skookum1 18:38, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
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There have been some rumours saying that SFU was originally called "Fraser University" during its first years, but had to change the name into what it is today because its abbreviation was too...interesting. Does anyone know more about it, or is it just a rumour?
From the Reputation section of the article: SFU has retained a reputation for being an overall strongly left wing campus. Is this just wishful nostalgia or does SFU deserve a strong left wing label today? Obviously, this is perceptual and opinion-based. Perhaps evidence for or against this claim would consist of left-right opinion polls of student and faculty. Me, I see a university that emphasizes partnerships with the private sector, and more satellite campuses emphasizing business, entrepreneurship, and enterprise. Nothing wrong with that, and it still leaves plenty of room for a left wing population. I may just not be noticing it. Thoughts? -- Ds13 19:48, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
Drdestiny77 06:27, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
The article being discussed here is a nominee for Vancouver collaboration of the month. If you wish to add your vote on it, please go to WP:VCOTM. -- Buchanan-Hermit™.. CONTRIBS.. SPEAK! 02:56, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Just not so; the int'l student item is correct, but Burnaby's demographic's don't have anything to do with SFU's. The high number of parachuted erstwhile "resident" students who are actually int'l students (but not in name or status) is blatantly obvious to anyone who spends much time on the hill; but that's the result not of Burnaby's ethnic composition but because of the way educational marketing has gone, and also because many "resident" status students are holding passports-of-convenience and are not otherwise "Canadian", except as defined within the loosey-goosey parameters of multicultural=Canadian. There were days at SFU in a recent couple of semesters spent there when I rarely heard English except in class, or with people I knew.
To me, the quote above is a product of the poor logic and poor evidentiary standards/concepts which are now "taught" at SFU and other schools. "Pursuit of excellence", a neocorporate buzzphrase which has cut the soul out of what used to be academia, has little to do with intellectual or linguistic skills, but with higher grades (and higher fees) Skookum1 18:16, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
There's a section on SFU Surrey; there should be sections on the new business and arts schools downtown, plus that Harbour Centre ex-dept store place that's filled with corporate-promo logos on the seminar rooms (amazing what a few dozen grand can buy a corporation in the way of advertising/namespace, when they don't actually contribute much else to education other than buying the nameplate for a seminar room, huh?. Skookum1 18:21, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
The following was deleted from the SFU article recently:
Francesco Aquilini, head of the Aquilini Investment Group based in Vancouver, obtained a Business Administration degree from SFU. On November 17, 2004, Aquilini signed a deal with John McCaw, previous owner of the Vancouver Canucks and became a 50% owner of the team and the sports arena GM Place.
The reason was, "Who's this? Not important enough to get his own paragraph." [1]
I personally think that the paragraph should stay but I want to avoid the possibility of an edit war so I'm going to see what everyone else thinks first. Do you guys think this paragraph should remain or should it stay deleted? -- Buchanan-H e rmit™.. CONTRIBS.. SPEAK! 04:16, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Aquilini is a pretty big name in Vancouver. His family are Italian immigrants that made a pretty big name for themselves. I think it should be left in. It also makes for a more interesting Wiki page!
The image captioned as "Convocation Mall" really isn't, since the mall is beyond the stairs and beyond another courtyard with a different name, and can't even be seen in the picture. I would remove it, but I have another image in mind that I uploaded to commons and I don't want to be seen as "sneaking" my photo in for some kind of ego boost thing. The image of the library at right is what I have in mind. — Saxifrage ✎ 11:10, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
The entire research section, talking about the awards won and the move toward 'excellence' does not seem very NPOV -- it sounds like something put out by the PR office of the university. In particular the line "Long known as an innovative teaching university, SFU has moved toward research excellence" should be either made quantitative or dropped. (How many papers are published by SFU faculty per year as compared to other schools in Canada, and compared to other schools in the world?) Also it would be nice to see a list of famous faculty members (e.g. the Borwein brothers, the woman in Criminology who was on the cover of Time....) Spebudmak 18:17, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
"Excellence", "world-class", "innovative" and all the rest of that language are part of the Fraser Institute/BC Liberal newspeak that dominates public media in BC. All vomit-generating spew, but they sure like to use it ad nauseam; like the claim that the Bog is a "world-class training facility" when it doesn't even have dumbbells that aren't bent, only a few machines, and a bossy training coach who's into keeping everyone not under his immediate thumb out of the room; all at student rec fees expense, of course; the equipment's old, the door locks at 8, and there's not enough weights (and what few there are often don't match). But in their writeups and press releases, it's "world-class". In attitude, certainly.... Skookum1 18:02, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
This is a pretty lame write up section but the article may get too long if we add in write ups of individual departments. Any suggestions on how to proceed? Stealth cat 23:57, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
I've updated the caption to the Central City (SFU Surrey) image, as it's (no longer) correct. It said that SFU Surrey occupied the lower, rectangular portion, when in fact they now occupy the 14th and 15th floors of the Central City tower. DoctorElmo 01:28, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
This article will not be complete without a discussion of the PoliSci-Soc-Anthro (PSA) Department and its eventual disbandment, and the associated political fracas that went on in the university's "founding years". These events were "highly notable" and documentable as well, even though they're shoved under the rug up at SFU all the time, as they have been here (as I remember they were here in earlier versions of the page). I don't date back that far myself, and it's all kind of hazy to me, but I know it's important enough that it shouldn't be omitted from this page; and important enough that once it's put back in or put in properly, it shouldn't be a candidate for deletion/censorship by the university's multi-headed watchdogs who patrol this page - which reads like a brochure, and has next to nil student content; in "careful" language, the kind of re-branding that makes the new-polytechnic flavour of modern SFU such an unpleasant experience for those use to the more collegial times when people weren't just in school to prep for a life of credit ratings and "career advancement", but actually to "get an education" (not just "get a degree") and become someone. I'll repeat my earlier comments that this page reads like a promotional brochure, and also point any SFU staffers, especially from the Public Relations Dept., to WP:COI.
I made the amendment to the Coat of Arms thing because it should be clearly stated why the daggers were removed, i.e. to satisfy orthodox Muslim students who chose to be offended by the "Crusader daggers" (that's citable, but I don't have Peak archives handy); Jews, Buddhists, Hindus and Sikhs were not offended and raised no outcry; only Muslims; even us quasi-agnostic ex/semi-Christians weren't offended by religious symbols - heraldic symbols, actually, long lost of religious assocations. I wonder - my maternal-side family crest has three large crescents on it - should I replace them with crosses or rosettes since I'm not Muslim? And the Fraser tartan - isn't that offensive to Campbells? Shouldn't it be replaced as well? Sheesh.... Skookum1 19:41, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Although he was not the architect, the original campus heavily reflects the Five Points of architecture. ( Mchelada 03:03, 22 June 2007 (UTC))
We should add a section about course availability problem that plague SFU. In a report compiled by SFU's Institute of Research and Planning, they outright admitted that SFU has a problem with course availability. We should include this problem in the article as it is in public domain and an important part of all articles regarding educations.
For the reports, visit... http://www.sfu.ca/irp/courses/CourseFullTurnaway/index.html
A SFU student 13:37, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
I updated the TechOne section to reflect the new changes, but I think I went into too much unnecessary detail, listing all the core courses and their codes. Would a more general overview of the goal of the program and the recent changes be more appropriate? I'm in TechOne, for what it's worth. Hwesta 01:19, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
-- Stuque ( talk) 07:55, 8 February 2008 (UTC)Yes, I think more general info would be more useful --- course specific information changes frequently, and it is better to refer to the TechOne website to get the most accurate information. Plus, going into detail about any one particular SFU program doesn't make much sense, unless there is something especially noteworthy about it. Stuque ( talk) 07:55, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
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In the small part about the hockey team, it says: "Currently their roster consists of 2 goalies, 7 defence, and 15 forwards." That's such a weird comment, similar to "Currently, humans breathe oxygen." Any reason for me not to change this? 70.69.13.18 ( talk) 03:25, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Question: both of those links are found in the [Simon Fraser University] article and redirect to itself. Does someone intend to flesh out those articles? FYI I originally found the SFU Surrey link in the Andromeda article and changed it to read "...the Surrey, BC campus of Simon Fraser University". Southsloper ( talk) 10:06, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Skookum1 ( talk) 04:46, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Will anybody, please, explain what is a "comprehensive university"? Thanks on behalf of a lot of non-native English speakers. Pedron ( talk) 22:39, 14 March 2008 (UTC) It's a category used in MacLean's (the magazine) in ranking Canadian universities. Basically it's the one that's between "universities with medical schools" and "universities with only bachelors' programs". Terukiyo ( talk) 23:32, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
An anon just added the following unsourced (and incomplete) statement, and I've moved it here for discussion:
First it needs a source, and second it needs a qualifier since I'm pretty sure it doesn't have the largest in the universe. Does anyone know where this claim comes from? — Saxifrage | ☎ 09:51, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
I am doing some work to debrochurize this template. Any advice/comments would be great
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The blazons of each coat of arms should be given, epseically since there's a special section on them. I don't know where to look, but presumably the Cowichan Herald Extraordinary monitors his own webpage, so the talkpage there might be a good place to ask; each coat of arms has a meaning - I think, but am not sure, that the old/original one is based on Clan Fraser's.... Skookum1 ( talk) 05:22, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
The Lord Lyon did not approve for a very simple reason - coats of arms are unique and cannot be held simultaneously by two bodies/people. As for the bit with the crosses, I knew lots of international students 1977-1981 and never heard anything about this; and I know from a friend who's been up there for the last few years that the change was agitated for by Muslim students who railed against "crusader daggers", apparently in letters to the editor in The Peak; in fact the clan chief of McDonell whose coat of arms it was may indeed have been a Crusader; but the Islamic crescent was likewise used to slaughter Christians throughout the Mediterranean and Eastern Europe, and it is not simillarly held in disregard as the cross has come to be. I should stress I'm speaking as a non-Christian, but tired of seeing the endless censure of Christian society/civilization and derogation of its symbols by those who are no better. I don't have a cite for the "crusader daggers' thing but my friend (who's not Christian either) wouldn't have mentioned it if it were not the case. Catering to religioius paranoia is not something, of course, that an official publication of the university would admit to, and it strikes me as a marketing decision more than anything else, to "make people feel welcome" - people with prejudices about "Christian institutions". Stanford and Notre Dame and many other universiities are religious in origin (Notre Dame still in its management) but do not discriminate against non-Christians; if non-Christians discriminate against them because they are Christian insitutions then I submit they're not people who you'd want as students. Apparently SFU does...this is not meant to "discuss" this issue, but to point to other sources so that the whole truth - not just hte sanitized official version - will be told, eventually, if not now.... Skookum1 ( talk) 05:35, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Everyone knows that webometrics is not a rating of the university, but the university's ability to utilize the internet (good webpages, research sites, web publications, online courses, etc.). It shouldn't be so prominent on the page (first paragraph). It should be either removed or reworded to it's meaning is explicit.
http://www.webometrics.info/about_rank.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.121.138.6 ( talk) 07:18, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
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SFU will be in the NCAA, but it is not yet. See this [2]. 98.82.22.234 ( talk) 15:33, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
There is a section for famous alumni, but what about famous faculty members? MezzoMezzo ( talk) 11:27, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
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I think this section should be deleted. Really. Who cares? Not important. -- 2604:2000:E010:1100:CD00:E9D3:53D9:FBE ( talk) 07:57, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
Consistently ranked as Canada's top comprehensive university and named to the Times Higher Education list of 100 world universities under 50, SFU is also the first Canadian member of the National Collegiate Athletic Association, the world's largest college sports association.
However ridiculous the sentence structure, the conceptual subordination of academic excellence as a dangling modifier of sports excellence is non-trivial, and should be promptly flagged for five and a game. — MaxEnt 15:46, 22 September 2020 (UTC)