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Please undo the speedy request, and also, enquire better on my status:
I'am not blocked wikipedia-wide, but on a single page.
I contested the specific, single page block since the admin used his admin tools to settle the content dispute we were having (1 vs 1 vote), which is quite shocking by itself.
Present tense is a trap, because it gets left in for too long, but sometimes you need to use it. All the best: RichFarmbrough (the apparently calm and reasonable)
15:15, 2 April 2020 (UTC).reply
Hello all, this article take a turn toward shortage and (alternative) solutions or shortage and responses, pandemic induced shortage ? I think it could be beneficial to have a name change in this direction, so it gives a strong hint that well documented solutions to the COVID19 shortages are welcome here. What do you think ? Any title idea in mind ?
Yug(talk)14:56, 26 March 2020 (UTC)reply
The title is dumb a little. How about "insufficient supplies", "supply insufficiency" or "supply shortage"Â ? (correct it cool.) Also, is this included in "Impacts" of COVID main template?--
Kyuri1449 (
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06:58, 28 March 2020 (UTC)reply
It was in Impact but have been moved into "Issues". Shortages is a word commonly used in the sources (with "ran out of ..."). We also report on workforce shortages. So adding in "supply" seems tricky.
Yug(talk)08:54, 28 March 2020 (UTC)reply
I noticed that the groceries section is relatively empty, and I saw this discussion here. I wanted to point out there are some news articles that do talk about the issue with toilet paper:
The point is I think there are definitely
WP:RS that discuss shortages of not only bathroom tissue but other grocery items as well. However, I wanted to get consensus first about what should be included in this article, as it looks like there already have been some edits and reverts related to this topic.
ECTran71 (
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06:52, 6 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Hello
ECTran71, thanks for the sources. I restructured them above and will later add them to the
#Sources section above. I'am overloaded by news sources these days (35+ backlog in #Sources) so I won't be able to integrate these Groceries related ones. If you want to focus on and adopt this section, it could help.
Yug(talk)14:44, 6 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Hi
Yug, I can certainly try to help. Is the idea to add content to the article using the sources in the
#Sources section above, and then remove the sources from the
#Sources section once they're in the article?
ECTran71 (
talk)
22:06, 7 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Because you say 100 millions instead of 100 million perhaps! An Indian more likely say "10 crore". All the best: RichFarmbrough (the apparently calm and reasonable)
15:13, 2 April 2020 (UTC).reply
Someone which pick this article is written in Indian English does not understand that it use international numbering system. For example, this article use like 100,000 rather than 1 crore, which only used in Indian English, and 100 million is used rather to 1 lakh in order to understand to international readers, because it will not understand if this article use lakh or crore when this event is outside India. See
Numbering system in Indian English.
This is perhaps the biggest shortage (if one doesn't count vaccine!). There is plenty of sourcing available, including Congressional committees. All the best: RichFarmbrough (the apparently calm and reasonable)
15:17, 2 April 2020 (UTC).reply
I used the report above to add into the most visited articles some wikilinks back to here. Will get a visibility bump hopefully ! (too bad the recent rename reset the count)
Yug(talk)22:41, 2 April 2020 (UTC)reply
First Edit conflict, let's celebrate ! ^0^y
Hi
Ohconfucius, I saw your edits since I was editing at the same time. We went into an edit conflict. I couldn't solve it simply, so I tried to solve it by hand. Saw the additions, removals, and moves you did, thanks you. Naturally I'am skeptical on some aspects, but that's why I'am here, to inform you and get your feedback so to understand those better.
Yug(talk)12:56, 6 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Ok ! I think I got it all, I merged all our changes.
I systematically scan 100% of the NYTimes coverage on Covid, then I dispatch all contents related to shortages here. I also scan twitter,
South China Morning Post, the Guardian. When they cite researches, I follow down. When I feel there is a key issue but not enough material, I google it. French sources, also, when relevant to shortages. I'am French yes. But after 65 days on COVID wikisprints I'am wiki-exhausted.
Yug(talk)21:31, 6 April 2020 (UTC)reply
I think thefts are an angle that can be covered - toilet paper, masks etc. There have been a few of them, including a nurse who stole respirators for eventual sale. Any other ideas? -- Ohc ¥digame!22:41, 6 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Hello all, i noticed a major push on the groceries and Supply competition these past days. Awesome! Thank you
ECTran71, it s awesome to see the sources being integrated. I also noticed
XXzoonamiXX came with lot of other sources on the matter of Supply competition. Great. Thank you both.
Yug(talk)07:07, 13 April 2020 (UTC)reply
I kind of have a blind spot because 80% of the sources i gather are New York Times (~60%), The Guardian (15%) or South China Morning Post (5% and could be exploited much more). So my sources lacks diversity. I wonder if we could have more expert resources, such as medical or business/management/supply chain journals or academic papers. Academic "look back, analysis, explanations" may come later this year or from 2021 onward. So thanks you both for bringging in fresh air ;)
Yug(talk)07:13, 13 April 2020 (UTC)reply
ECTran, I encourage you to duplicate your references for each sentence. It s visually unelegant, but because Wikipedia is open to everyone's edits, it will come a day when your section will be edited, splitted, reorganized. So it becomes safer to keep references at the end of nearly each sentences.
Yug(talk)07:26, 13 April 2020 (UTC)reply
No problem, happy to help. Good point on the references - I increased the citation frequency for the sections I added as you suggested.
ECTran71 (
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10:51, 14 April 2020 (UTC)reply
What next
As for anticipating unexpressed needs to come:
Need for a "political impact" section is arising.
The virus is also now moving into poorer territories. I dont know how to cover these territories where shortage are systemic, due to basic lack of initial health infrastructures.
The current patchwork of sources with picked up statements is not proper to serious writing. Ideally, existing sources should be curate to keep only the more serious ones.
Hello
Victorgrigas, thanks for your sources scooting :). We have a section above (
#Sources) where we store sources by groups. We have a
#Groceries and a
#People section where your sources can go. If you can, read your source, get the core statements out of it, and add them in the article under the relevant section. You can then strike like this that source in the list of sources. Feel free to ping us for help if necessary.
Yug(talk)18:14, 13 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Freezers[1], $100 bills (on one bank in New York City)[2] Puzzles[3][4],
Kettlebells[5], Blood[6], baking yeast[7], dogs and cats (in New York City)[8], Playstation 4[9], Nintendo Switch and Nintendo Switch Lite[10], laptop and tablet computers[11], small gold bars and gold coins[12] are in shortage.
The top photo is from 2011, long before COVID-19 (it's easily identifiable as such since the doctors aren't wearing masks). It's misleading and should be replaced with a photo related to current shortages. Someone should also probably check the other images in this article for similar issues. {{u|Sdkb}}âŻtalk23:57, 27 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Renaming : "Early shortages related to the COVID-19 pandemic "
Hi there. I made a sustained sprint in March April on this article and wrote most of it back then, when the shortage were quite critical and shocking. This article
barely involved since (see #Month counts), while the pandemic continue. The occasional shortages we see now are marginal and almost business as usual which includes rare occasional shortages. I would be a good idea to "bundle" this article and rename it according to its true content. Therefor, a renaming as "Early shortages related to the COVID-19 pandemic " seems to me the right direction to take.
Yug(talk)15:24, 1 September 2020 (UTC)reply
This states that while the initial shortages may have been resolved that there is still a ripple effect going on. I'm not sure whether this is now outside the scope of the article.
Mapsax (
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23:47, 28 July 2021 (UTC)reply
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