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Not English?
Because this is the English Wikipedia, i'm going to change this page. The Japanese word "shisho" should redirect to "beefsteak" or "perilla". The scientific name causes me to prefer perilla. Its japanese name can be included there.--Ray
I don't know if the person above is really Ray as he did not date stamp sign it, and used a different IP Address for the Talk page vs. when he made the actual move, but when he suggest that "shiso" isn't an English word, he is wrong (or at least obsolete). It has been used hundreds of times over the years when you search the NY Times archives. It is also listed in the "Oxford English Dictionary".
Also
user:WormRunner who expanded this article under "shiso" several times (latest 06:10, 4 July 2004) before "Ray" moved the page, comments in
Perilla (revision 20:15, 19 May 2005) "that Shiso has become one of the commonest names". .
I have now expanded and correct the various Perilla related articles to clarify that the Japanese shiso should not be equated with the perilla leaf used in Korean cooking because the aroma and have very different chemical constitutents. So they need to be made into separate articles, because otherwise, you would have to qualify almost every claim you make about its taste, use, chemistry, health benefits, or hazards by specifying whether you are referring to the one variety or the other.
I am also importing the WikiProject Japan tag here, and assigning importance level as high, because this item is pretty basic to Japanese cuisine. --
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My Japanese grocery labels the green-leaved product here in the UK as Ohba, and if you Google Ohba leaves, you are redirected to this page where the word Ohba does not appear. Yes, if you look under the Japanese names for the culinary product, you see "Ōba (大葉)". But since this is an English language page, I would expect to see the English language spelling "Ohba" to be referenced at least once!