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On 21 May 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Sunni–Shia divide. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Excess detail?

@ Portwoman: Can you provide a little more specificity as to what detail you want removed? -- Louis P. Boog ( talk) 20:13, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply

This is a case of WP:DRIVEBY. -- Omnipaedista ( talk) 00:30, 6 November 2023 (UTC) reply

Requested move 21 May 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 14:20, 5 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Shia–Sunni relations → Sunni–Shia divide – Common name and description, attributed to multiple sources.^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5]^[6]^[7]^[8]^[9]^[10]^[11]^[12]^[13]^[14]^[15]^[16]^[17]^[18] I will highlight that it is not a mere debate, but a disagreement that has come with conflict and violence. We should align its naming on Wikipedia with how it is described.

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Completely Random Guy ( talk) 15:46, 21 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph ( talk) 16:47, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment – The existing title is in line with that of another article about relations between two religious sects with a history of conflict: Catholic–Eastern Orthodox relations. Graham ( talk) 17:47, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose Wikipedia articles have to adopt neutral titles regardless of the "divide" between the concerning factions. Shankargb ( talk) 02:30, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisting comment: Relisting to allow more time for consensus to develop Polyamorph ( talk) 16:47, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Oppose. Most of the sources cited have been news-type sources, not scholarly ones. Secondly, the sources are referring mainly to the conflict. So I agree that an article that was solely on the Shia-Sunni conflict should indeed be called Shia-Sunni divide, but the scope of this article is broader than that. VR _{(Please
ping on reply)} 21:09, 3 June 2024 (UTC) reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

[1] ttps://www.cfr.org/article/sunni-shia-divide#:~:text=Shias%2C%20a%20term%20that%20stems,succession%20based%20on%20Mohammed%27s%20bloodline.

[2] ttps://www.history.com/news/sunni-shia-divide-islam-muslim

[3] ttps://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2013/11/Shias-Sunnis-religious-conflict-full-report.pdf

[4] ttps://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2007/02/12/7332087/the-origins-of-the-shiite-sunni-split

[5] ttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-16047709

[6] ttps://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-sunni-shiite-divide-in-the-middle-east-is-about-nationalism-not-a-conflict-within-islam/

[7] ttps://www.vox.com/2016/1/5/10718456/sunni-shia

[8] ttps://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2014/06/18/the-sunni-shia-divide-where-they-live-what-they-believe-and-how-they-view-each-other/

[9] ttps://www.npr.org/2007/02/12/7280905/chronology-a-history-of-the-shia-sunni-split

[10] ttps://www.bbc.com/news/av/magazine-27945271

[11] ttps://www.fpri.org/article/2013/12/the-geopolitics-of-the-sunni-shii-divide-in-the-middle-east/

[12] ttps://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/FOID/Reading%20Room/Other/15-F-0940_DOC_05_CSBA-LTSG_Sunni-Shia_Divide_Origins_Theology_Geopolitics_200701.pdf

[13] ttps://origins.osu.edu/article/tradition-vs-charisma-sunni-shii-divide-muslim-world?language_content_entity=en

[14] ttps://carnegie-mec.org/posts/2007/03/the-shia-sunni-divide-myths-and-reality?lang=en&center=middle-east

[15] ttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/346724893_Sunni-Shia_Division_in_Islam_Its_Origin_Development_Political_Socio-Economic_Implications_Contemporary_Relations

[16] ttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/04/sunni-shia-sectarianism-middle-east-islam

[17] ttps://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691186610/sunnis-and-shia

[18] ttps://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/resrep03717.6.pdf

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