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Takabeg ( talk) 11:33, 29 July 2011 (UTC) reply

It is really funny

Vahan M. Kurkjian «A History of Armenia» p. 168: It was not long before two Ortokid dynasties were created in Armenia and Kurdistan, the former by Sokman, the Shah-Armen (or "King of Armenia") and the other by Il-Ghazi. You really think that the Shah-Armen was Artukid? Wow! -- Удивленный1 ( talk) 05:18, 22 July 2020 (UTC) reply