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Did you know... that Blessed Seraphina Sforza was implicated in a murder plot at the age of twelve?
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... that Blessed Seraphina Sforza was implicated in a murder plot at the age of twelve? Source: "Sveva in 1446 had been implicated in the plot to assassinate Federico"
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GA-level article, recently passed, no plagiarism, hook verified and interesting; no QPQ is apparently required, as this is a first nom by user.
Dahn (
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16:21, 14 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Count or Duke
The article says "Sveva's older brother, Oddantonio da Montefeltro, succeeded his father as Count", but this statement may be inaccurate. Other articles
Oddantonio da Montefeltro and
Duchy of Urbino indicate that Oddantonio da Montefeltro did succeed his father, but was elevated to Duke. It follows that "The next Count was Sveva's half-brother, Federico da Montefeltro," may also be inaccurate, because Duke is a hereditary title. – Editør (
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08:42, 18 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Made a mistake in original edit by also editing title of book. My current edit is correct. It is NOT standard practice to include religious honorifics in Wikipedia page titles. EG: Peter Canisius (redirect from Blessed Peter Canisius).
JeffreyPopek (
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00:16, 23 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Right -- but it's not in the page title, it's just in the infobox. As you can see, Peter Canisius has "Saint" in the infobox in the same way. —
Moriwen (
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00:17, 23 October 2023 (UTC)reply
I would think that shouldn't be there either since it is a title assigned by a religious organization.
In this case, the verifiable fact is simply that the catholic church has given her the title of Blessed. As a reference work, Wikipedia documents the practices and beliefs of many religions. This particular fact is verified in many different works of non-fiction. —
Moriwen (
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00:38, 23 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Documenting practices and beliefs is a lot different than venerating religious figures. The fact that many non-fiction sources agree that the catholic church gave her the "blessed" title does not make the title a fact in-and-of itself.
JeffreyPopek (
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00:50, 23 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Given that including these titles is standard across many Wikipedia pages (notice the existence of an infobox field for it!), and that it's cited, I'd like to suggest that you restore it, and seek consensus on the talk page for your desired removal. —
Moriwen (
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00:52, 23 October 2023 (UTC)reply
The infobox field is for official honorifics not venerations. I would be happy to seek consensus on a policy page. Do you know where the page is for policies on religious content?
JeffreyPopek (
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01:03, 23 October 2023 (UTC)reply